Anonymous
03/09/2021 12:52
Subject: Dupont circle deteriorating
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Y'all keep insisting you're not pearl clutchers. Newsflash: yes, you are.
Because I don’t want to walk my 3 year old to school past sh*t-laden alleyways and a couple that is obviously nodding out on opioids? Okay. You can have dupont then because I’m leaving.
Bye Felicia.
You mean- Bye, Karen.
I'm Asian, so nice try being racist.
It doesn't make you cooler to be okay with Dupont becoming skid row. It makes you disengaged and a bad neighbor.
We don't care what race you are.
So, are you saying you don't want to become an engaged neighbor? Fine- go!
Do you suggest neighbors tackle getting these people into treatment personally? Do you suggest that OP takes her toddler along to speak with a heroin addict?
Anonymous
03/09/2021 12:27
Subject: Dupont circle deteriorating
Anonymous wrote:Mayor bowser needs to go. She has been running the city into the ground. They are not enforcing anything anymore.
To be fair, its also our far left City Council at work
Anonymous
03/09/2021 12:07
Subject: Dupont circle deteriorating
Mayor bowser needs to go. She has been running the city into the ground. They are not enforcing anything anymore.
Anonymous
03/09/2021 10:40
Subject: Dupont circle deteriorating
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DuPont circle has always been sketchy/dangerous. Lots of muggings. I used to hang out there a lot 20 years ago and it got really unsettling after dark really fast. Even during the day, crossing the circle with all the homeless/mentally ill people...not the greatest. A lot nicer than adams Morgan used to be but that is not saying much. I am really sad about kramerbooks closing.
I agree that 20 years ago it was so-so, but 10 years ago it was very nice, incredibly safe, and basically not run over with tents on the sidewalk. It has changed and I’m shocked the community isn’t fighting for it.
+1
I worked there about 20 years ago and it was always sketch. If you look around DC, the tents are no longer confined to Tent City, the tents are now EVERYWHERE. Something needs to be done. Not sure what.
Well, we can go full gestapo on them, tear down their tents, throw away their few belongings, beat them, and tell them to just figure it out or something.
Or, as a city we can ask them what a better alternative would be for them and fund it. Why aren't the shelters working for you?
#1 sounds good. Why the hell should taxpayers throw more money at these lazy parasites?
OP here. They are people with addiction who are at rock bottom. They are still human. They need help. They need free rehab, intensive long-term therapy, and integration programs to help them. Dehumanizing them and calling them names doesn't get them off the street. Actual programs that treat them like people and help them do. There was a man who used to live near Safeway on the street. He was a vet who lost his parents young and the community got him help and now he lives in an apartment on Connecticut Ave. That is real success. Why isn't Dupont doing this for the rest of the people? I see them walk off to score and I see other people coming into their camp area up to no good. I don't see them use anymore because they have tents; I'm sure it's still happening.
Absent a means to compel participation and enforce post-treatment monitoring people’s diseases frequently lure them away from rehabilitation programs.
Anonymous
03/09/2021 10:38
Subject: Dupont circle deteriorating
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DuPont circle has always been sketchy/dangerous. Lots of muggings. I used to hang out there a lot 20 years ago and it got really unsettling after dark really fast. Even during the day, crossing the circle with all the homeless/mentally ill people...not the greatest. A lot nicer than adams Morgan used to be but that is not saying much. I am really sad about kramerbooks closing.
I agree that 20 years ago it was so-so, but 10 years ago it was very nice, incredibly safe, and basically not run over with tents on the sidewalk. It has changed and I’m shocked the community isn’t fighting for it.
+1
I worked there about 20 years ago and it was always sketch. If you look around DC, the tents are no longer confined to Tent City, the tents are now EVERYWHERE. Something needs to be done. Not sure what.
Well, we can go full gestapo on them, tear down their tents, throw away their few belongings, beat them, and tell them to just figure it out or something.
Or, as a city we can ask them what a better alternative would be for them and fund it. Why aren't the shelters working for you?
#1 sounds good. Why the hell should taxpayers throw more money at these lazy parasites?
OP here. They are people with addiction who are at rock bottom. They are still human. They need help. They need free rehab, intensive long-term therapy, and integration programs to help them. Dehumanizing them and calling them names doesn't get them off the street. Actual programs that treat them like people and help them do. There was a man who used to live near Safeway on the street. He was a vet who lost his parents young and the community got him help and now he lives in an apartment on Connecticut Ave. That is real success. Why isn't Dupont doing this for the rest of the people? I see them walk off to score and I see other people coming into their camp area up to no good. I don't see them use anymore because they have tents; I'm sure it's still happening.
I'd like to see DC give people bus tickets home to be honest. I have a lot of compassion for homegrown homeless--DC natives, or someone who moved here, then lost their job etc. I don't really want to become the social handout magnet for the nation. is there a way to vet or a middle ground? If you're not form here I would like you institutionalized, stabilized and handed a bus ticket home.
Anonymous
03/09/2021 10:12
Subject: Dupont circle deteriorating
What are the most effective ways to try to get the tents out of there/enforce no loitering, no drug use, etc. Is it worth emailing the mayors office? Or is there a complaint system online that actually does anything? I don’t even know where to begin
Anonymous
03/09/2021 09:53
Subject: Dupont circle deteriorating
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I lived there 20 years ago, and remember a naked guy running up and down the street outside Buffalo Billards. I had little nephews visiting me and they were thrilled with the excitement of the naked runner. And there were always a ton of pan handlers by the Cathedral on RI.
I didn't even realize people were raising families there now, honestly. Where is there a playground? Columbia Heights/Adams Morgan seems so much more family friendly.
Kalorama Park (playground). TBH I think of Dupont and Adams Morgan as the same thing, and then Columbia Heights is its own little scene. I've lived in DC forever (from here) and they all have nice aspects/are seedy in their own ways. I agree the itinerant homeless camp outs in DC are out of control. I didn't realize there were also drugged out people lying in the road. The city should pass news laws allowing for institutionalization and treatment and/or a bus ticket home if they were drawn here from elsewhere. Last, people should stop giving money directly to panhandlers. If you want to donate to a charity, they will be grateful to use your money thoughtfully.
OP here. No, Kalorama seems fine to me. It's Stead Park where all the equipment is broken to the point it's a bit dangerous. I'm more specifically talking about the 17th street strip which has people camping out in tents on every block. People in the neighborhood felt compassion for them (which is a good thing), but started helping them individually (which just made them set up tents and never leave). These people need treatment and help. Giving them money or food on the street does nothing for them. They'll end up like the woman who OD'ed and died out on 17th street.
Does anyone else live here? Anyone else surprised by the casual attitude about the changes? We rent an apartment so it's not like I only care about property value. I just feel like it went from being a lovely urban neighborhood to total trash in two years.
Yes I am sick about it. My older kids spent countless hours at stead and Ross. Now my youngest really can’t go to stead (closest to our house) bc it’s unsafe with so much broken. The last time we went to just kick a ball and were accosted by someone so won’t be going back. The police need to enforce no public drunkenness/drugged out on 17th st and stop making the area easy form the tents. I give generously to organizations that support homeless and give them opportunities. I don’t agree with giving handouts to them directly bc that will just encourage them to stay
Anonymous
03/09/2021 09:43
Subject: Dupont circle deteriorating
Anonymous wrote:Democrat run cities look like shit. I was in SF pre COVID and that is your future DuPont. I used to live there and wouldn’t want to now, including because I wouldn’t feel safe walking around.
Yeah, Jacksonville, FL is utter dogshit and has a crime problem with a stagnating economy. Ohh wait, its Republican controlled
This red vs. blue argument is silly and lets me know you're not here for anything other than partisan hackery.
Anonymous
03/09/2021 09:41
Subject: Dupont circle deteriorating
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Y'all keep insisting you're not pearl clutchers. Newsflash: yes, you are.
Because I don’t want to walk my 3 year old to school past sh*t-laden alleyways and a couple that is obviously nodding out on opioids? Okay. You can have dupont then because I’m leaving.
Bye Felicia.
You mean- Bye, Karen.
I'm Asian, so nice try being racist.
It doesn't make you cooler to be okay with Dupont becoming skid row. It makes you disengaged and a bad neighbor.
We don't care what race you are.
So, are you saying you don't want to become an engaged neighbor? Fine- go!
Anonymous
03/09/2021 09:29
Subject: Dupont circle deteriorating
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DuPont circle has always been sketchy/dangerous. Lots of muggings. I used to hang out there a lot 20 years ago and it got really unsettling after dark really fast. Even during the day, crossing the circle with all the homeless/mentally ill people...not the greatest. A lot nicer than adams Morgan used to be but that is not saying much. I am really sad about kramerbooks closing.
I agree that 20 years ago it was so-so, but 10 years ago it was very nice, incredibly safe, and basically not run over with tents on the sidewalk. It has changed and I’m shocked the community isn’t fighting for it.
+1
I worked there about 20 years ago and it was always sketch. If you look around DC, the tents are no longer confined to Tent City, the tents are now EVERYWHERE. Something needs to be done. Not sure what.
Well, we can go full gestapo on them, tear down their tents, throw away their few belongings, beat them, and tell them to just figure it out or something.
Or, as a city we can ask them what a better alternative would be for them and fund it. Why aren't the shelters working for you?
#1 sounds good. Why the hell should taxpayers throw more money at these lazy parasites?
OP here. They are people with addiction who are at rock bottom. They are still human. They need help. They need free rehab, intensive long-term therapy, and integration programs to help them. Dehumanizing them and calling them names doesn't get them off the street. Actual programs that treat them like people and help them do. There was a man who used to live near Safeway on the street. He was a vet who lost his parents young and the community got him help and now he lives in an apartment on Connecticut Ave. That is real success. Why isn't Dupont doing this for the rest of the people? I see them walk off to score and I see other people coming into their camp area up to no good. I don't see them use anymore because they have tents; I'm sure it's still happening.
Anonymous
03/08/2021 20:12
Subject: Dupont circle deteriorating
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DuPont circle has always been sketchy/dangerous. Lots of muggings. I used to hang out there a lot 20 years ago and it got really unsettling after dark really fast. Even during the day, crossing the circle with all the homeless/mentally ill people...not the greatest. A lot nicer than adams Morgan used to be but that is not saying much. I am really sad about kramerbooks closing.
I agree that 20 years ago it was so-so, but 10 years ago it was very nice, incredibly safe, and basically not run over with tents on the sidewalk. It has changed and I’m shocked the community isn’t fighting for it.
+1
I worked there about 20 years ago and it was always sketch. If you look around DC, the tents are no longer confined to Tent City, the tents are now EVERYWHERE. Something needs to be done. Not sure what.
Well, we can go full gestapo on them, tear down their tents, throw away their few belongings, beat them, and tell them to just figure it out or something.
Or, as a city we can ask them what a better alternative would be for them and fund it. Why aren't the shelters working for you?
#1 sounds good. Why the hell should taxpayers throw more money at these lazy parasites?
Anonymous
03/08/2021 20:07
Subject: Dupont circle deteriorating
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Y'all keep insisting you're not pearl clutchers. Newsflash: yes, you are.
Because I don’t want to walk my 3 year old to school past sh*t-laden alleyways and a couple that is obviously nodding out on opioids? Okay. You can have dupont then because I’m leaving.
None of what you're describing is going to hurt your precious little snowflake. Check your privilege.
Check your standards and priorities.
Anonymous
03/08/2021 20:06
Subject: Dupont circle deteriorating
Anonymous wrote:Unpopular view, but the first step would be to start calling “unhoused persons” bums, and overdosing “members of the community” addicts. You should be burning up the police call in number and the ones for the Mayor and council members. These things happen because they’re allowed to.
This view is popular with me. The progression of absurd, empathic euphemisms:
- bum / vagrant / derelict / hobo
- homeless person
- person experiencing homelessness
- unhoused person
As if the only thing separating Obama from the ex-con alcoholic druggie street scammer is that, somehow, the scammer missed the day houses were distributed.
Anonymous
03/08/2021 19:57
Subject: Dupont circle deteriorating
Democrat run cities look like shit. I was in SF pre COVID and that is your future DuPont. I used to live there and wouldn’t want to now, including because I wouldn’t feel safe walking around.
Anonymous
03/08/2021 11:57
Subject: Re:Dupont circle deteriorating
Anonymous wrote:^ they literally have buses pick homeless up from shelters and carry them to libraries sometimes. Just sad.
Agreed. And it's also part of the reason libraries haven't reopened.