OP, I was with you 100% until the last paragraph. Many people posting their financial status here are totally out of touch. But “taxing them into oblivion” isn’t the answer. Taking what they’ve worked for/earned (and yes, often inherited) isn’t the answer. I just wish the people bragging about their assets understood they are not the norm. And I wish the people complaining about frivolous things like their kitchen cabinets or that they “only” have X amount saved realized how ridiculous they sound. And I wish people reading didn’t compare themselves to them because it’s not the average person. Instead of DCUM, it should be called DCUE - DC Urban Elitists.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of us worked hard in school, spend years in college and graduate school and put in long hours at work. It isn't that hard of a formula.

Also, your anger is directed at people who are WORKING for money. Maybe you should redirect it to people who either aren't working and living off the system or those not working and living off trust funds.

This is just not true. The majority of these people were funded by their parents either through paying for education, help with rent, car payments, assistance with first home down payment, trusts or similar. The idea that the 1% is "working for money' is laughable. They were gifted funds and hardly seem to realize it. That's what OP is on about.

Who paid for OP to go to elementary, middle and high school? Did she pay for herself?

Property taxes? But you seem to miss the point. The vast majority of the super wealthy in this country did not pull themselves up by their bootstraps. They were given a leg up by their parents. While potentially OP - and many others - are busy digging themselves out of student debt or trying to save on a downpayment for that first house (or heaven forbid paying down medical bills), Daddy Warbucks' kid is earning interest on the gifted trust or other disposable income s/he has on hand that isn't going towards the crazy expenses that most normal folks have in this world. The rest of us normal folks will never catch up with that interest that you've got in trust for the kids and grandkids. And telling people just to "work harder" is purposefully misleading - because if you didn't have to pay your way, you never worked for it.

So the OP didn't pay for her own school. Is that not unearned privledge?

Here's the point you are missing. If you tell me that you are going to confiscate my wealth and collectivize my property, I will immediately reject everything else you have to say. Full stop.

Stop the whining. No one is confiscating your wealth. People are just calling you out for not earning it.
And if you pay for property taxes, then you pay for your own schooling - despite it being in a collective pot.
And we're clearly not talking about minors, dude. You should know better and who paid for public elementary school. you get the point, you just insist on being obtuse. And if you don't understand the difference between going to public elementary school and having college paid free and clear, you are the problem

So I didn't earn it. So what? I earned my money more that YOU earned my money.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of us worked hard in school, spend years in college and graduate school and put in long hours at work. It isn't that hard of a formula.

Also, your anger is directed at people who are WORKING for money. Maybe you should redirect it to people who either aren't working and living off the system or those not working and living off trust funds.

This is just not true. The majority of these people were funded by their parents either through paying for education, help with rent, car payments, assistance with first home down payment, trusts or similar. The idea that the 1% is "working for money' is laughable. They were gifted funds and hardly seem to realize it. That's what OP is on about.

Who paid for OP to go to elementary, middle and high school? Did she pay for herself?

Property taxes? But you seem to miss the point. The vast majority of the super wealthy in this country did not pull themselves up by their bootstraps. They were given a leg up by their parents. While potentially OP - and many others - are busy digging themselves out of student debt or trying to save on a downpayment for that first house (or heaven forbid paying down medical bills), Daddy Warbucks' kid is earning interest on the gifted trust or other disposable income s/he has on hand that isn't going towards the crazy expenses that most normal folks have in this world. The rest of us normal folks will never catch up with that interest that you've got in trust for the kids and grandkids. And telling people just to "work harder" is purposefully misleading - because if you didn't have to pay your way, you never worked for it.

So the OP didn't pay for her own school. Is that not unearned privledge?

Here's the point you are missing. If you tell me that you are going to confiscate my wealth and collectivize my property, I will immediately reject everything else you have to say. Full stop.

Stop the whining. No one is confiscating your wealth. People are just calling you out for not earning it.
And if you pay for property taxes, then you pay for your own schooling - despite it being in a collective pot.
And we're clearly not talking about minors, dude. You should know better and who paid for public elementary school. you get the point, you just insist on being obtuse. And if you don't understand the difference between going to public elementary school and having college paid free and clear, you are the problem

So OP didn't pay for her own schooling. Someone else paid for it through property tax. SHE DIDN'T EARN THAT.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of us worked hard in school, spend years in college and graduate school and put in long hours at work. It isn't that hard of a formula.

Also, your anger is directed at people who are WORKING for money. Maybe you should redirect it to people who either aren't working and living off the system or those not working and living off trust funds.

This is just not true. The majority of these people were funded by their parents either through paying for education, help with rent, car payments, assistance with first home down payment, trusts or similar. The idea that the 1% is "working for money' is laughable. They were gifted funds and hardly seem to realize it. That's what OP is on about.

Who paid for OP to go to elementary, middle and high school? Did she pay for herself?

Property taxes? But you seem to miss the point. The vast majority of the super wealthy in this country did not pull themselves up by their bootstraps. They were given a leg up by their parents. While potentially OP - and many others - are busy digging themselves out of student debt or trying to save on a downpayment for that first house (or heaven forbid paying down medical bills), Daddy Warbucks' kid is earning interest on the gifted trust or other disposable income s/he has on hand that isn't going towards the crazy expenses that most normal folks have in this world. The rest of us normal folks will never catch up with that interest that you've got in trust for the kids and grandkids. And telling people just to "work harder" is purposefully misleading - because if you didn't have to pay your way, you never worked for it.

So the OP didn't pay for her own school. Is that not unearned privledge?

Here's the point you are missing. If you tell me that you are going to confiscate my wealth and collectivize my property, I will immediately reject everything else you have to say. Full stop.

Stop the whining. No one is confiscating your wealth. People are just calling you out for not earning it.
And if you pay for property taxes, then you pay for your own schooling - despite it being in a collective pot.
And we're clearly not talking about minors, dude. You should know better and who paid for public elementary school. you get the point, you just insist on being obtuse. And if you don't understand the difference between going to public elementary school and having college paid free and clear, you are the problem

This is what OP posted:

I hope all of you out of touch privileged people are taxed so hard your eyes bleed. You people are the swamp everybody else loves to hate. We need to tax the rich into oblivion and collectivize their assets,

I'm not going to listen to the ideas of anyone who wants my eyes to bleed.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of us worked hard in school, spend years in college and graduate school and put in long hours at work. It isn't that hard of a formula.

Also, your anger is directed at people who are WORKING for money. Maybe you should redirect it to people who either aren't working and living off the system or those not working and living off trust funds.

This is just not true. The majority of these people were funded by their parents either through paying for education, help with rent, car payments, assistance with first home down payment, trusts or similar. The idea that the 1% is "working for money' is laughable. They were gifted funds and hardly seem to realize it. That's what OP is on about.

Who paid for OP to go to elementary, middle and high school? Did she pay for herself?

Property taxes? But you seem to miss the point. The vast majority of the super wealthy in this country did not pull themselves up by their bootstraps. They were given a leg up by their parents. While potentially OP - and many others - are busy digging themselves out of student debt or trying to save on a downpayment for that first house (or heaven forbid paying down medical bills), Daddy Warbucks' kid is earning interest on the gifted trust or other disposable income s/he has on hand that isn't going towards the crazy expenses that most normal folks have in this world. The rest of us normal folks will never catch up with that interest that you've got in trust for the kids and grandkids. And telling people just to "work harder" is purposefully misleading - because if you didn't have to pay your way, you never worked for it.

So the OP didn't pay for her own school. Is that not unearned privledge?

Here's the point you are missing. If you tell me that you are going to confiscate my wealth and collectivize my property, I will immediately reject everything else you have to say. Full stop.

Stop the whining. No one is confiscating your wealth. People are just calling you out for not earning it.
And if you pay for property taxes, then you pay for your own schooling - despite it being in a collective pot.
And we're clearly not talking about minors, dude. You should know better and who paid for public elementary school. you get the point, you just insist on being obtuse. And if you don't understand the difference between going to public elementary school and having college paid free and clear, you are the problem

Anonymous wrote:The rest of the civilzed world: Provides basic needs in the form of public goods to that people can change jobs without worrying about losing healthcare.

America: PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS

Also America: *Makes you take out a high interest loan to pay for the proverbial bootstraps*

Also America: Offers military service and community college as bootstraps.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of us worked hard in school, spend years in college and graduate school and put in long hours at work. It isn't that hard of a formula.

Also, your anger is directed at people who are WORKING for money. Maybe you should redirect it to people who either aren't working and living off the system or those not working and living off trust funds.

This is just not true. The majority of these people were funded by their parents either through paying for education, help with rent, car payments, assistance with first home down payment, trusts or similar. The idea that the 1% is "working for money' is laughable. They were gifted funds and hardly seem to realize it. That's what OP is on about.

Who paid for OP to go to elementary, middle and high school? Did she pay for herself?

Property taxes? But you seem to miss the point. The vast majority of the super wealthy in this country did not pull themselves up by their bootstraps. They were given a leg up by their parents. While potentially OP - and many others - are busy digging themselves out of student debt or trying to save on a downpayment for that first house (or heaven forbid paying down medical bills), Daddy Warbucks' kid is earning interest on the gifted trust or other disposable income s/he has on hand that isn't going towards the crazy expenses that most normal folks have in this world. The rest of us normal folks will never catch up with that interest that you've got in trust for the kids and grandkids. And telling people just to "work harder" is purposefully misleading - because if you didn't have to pay your way, you never worked for it.

So the OP didn't pay for her own school. Is that not unearned privledge?

Here's the point you are missing. If you tell me that you are going to confiscate my wealth and collectivize my property, I will immediately reject everything else you have to say. Full stop.

Most of the people on this forum support higher taxes and a stronger social safety net. We don't support communism.

Anonymous wrote:The rest of the civilzed world: Provides basic needs in the form of public goods to that people can change jobs without worrying about losing healthcare.

America: PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS

Also America: *Makes you take out a high interest loan to pay for the proverbial bootstraps*

OP: I'm going to take all of your money and your house because you didn't earn that!

Anonymous wrote:I realize it.

I grew up below the poverty line with a single mother. We lived in apartments and I was the scholarship kid at Catholic school, camp, etc. I ate crap like baloney sandwiches on white bread and tv dinners. Most of my clothes were hand-me-downs from my cousins. Didn't own a car until college and bought it myself with cash from my PT job.

I'm now a 1%er because of the moves I made and who I married. I don't take it for granted and I do a lot myself - housework, cooking, cleaning, etc. I still buy a lot of my & kids' clothes second-hand and always look for a coupon before I go to a big box store. Old habits die hard.

+1 parents are low educated immigrants who don't speak English. I really did earn what I have, and I really appreciate it. I ate like like a poor person until my mid 20s.


I still live fairly frugally for our HHI. Buy all my clothes on sale, no name brands. Only jewelry I have is what DH bought me (wedding rings and a pair of nice earrings after DC was born for my bday).

So yes OP, some of us do realize it and are greatful for it. And some of us really did earn it.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of us worked hard in school, spend years in college and graduate school and put in long hours at work. It isn't that hard of a formula.

Also, your anger is directed at people who are WORKING for money. Maybe you should redirect it to people who either aren't working and living off the system or those not working and living off trust funds.

This is just not true. The majority of these people were funded by their parents either through paying for education, help with rent, car payments, assistance with first home down payment, trusts or similar. The idea that the 1% is "working for money' is laughable. They were gifted funds and hardly seem to realize it. That's what OP is on about.

Who paid for OP to go to elementary, middle and high school? Did she pay for herself?

Property taxes? But you seem to miss the point. The vast majority of the super wealthy in this country did not pull themselves up by their bootstraps. They were given a leg up by their parents. While potentially OP - and many others - are busy digging themselves out of student debt or trying to save on a downpayment for that first house (or heaven forbid paying down medical bills), Daddy Warbucks' kid is earning interest on the gifted trust or other disposable income s/he has on hand that isn't going towards the crazy expenses that most normal folks have in this world. The rest of us normal folks will never catch up with that interest that you've got in trust for the kids and grandkids. And telling people just to "work harder" is purposefully misleading - because if you didn't have to pay your way, you never worked for it.

So the OP didn't pay for her own school. Is that not unearned privledge?

Here's the point you are missing. If you tell me that you are going to confiscate my wealth and collectivize my property, I will immediately reject everything else you have to say. Full stop.

The rest of the civilzed world: Provides basic needs in the form of public goods to that people can change jobs without worrying about losing healthcare.

America: PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS

Also America: *Makes you take out a high interest loan to pay for the proverbial bootstraps*

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Anonymous wrote:I completely understand why people made guillotine memes in response to the proposed $600 stimulus checks this winter. And guess what, $1400 is not enough either. I hope all of you out of touch privileged people are taxed so hard your eyes bleed. You people are the swamp everybody else loves to hate. We need to tax the rich into oblivion and collectivize their assets, I swear to god. Don't EVER try to justify your cushy job as having "Earned" your right to complain about property taxes on your second investment property when this country operates like the Third World when trying to meet other people's basic needs.

Serious question: Do you *really* want to live in a world like this?

Serious question: Most of us are trying to meet other people's basic needs. Can't we have both? Can't we have a strong social safety net and reward people for success?

Obviously the "collectivize their assets" is hyperbole but I sure wouldn't mind seeing the rich get squeezed and squirm for once. I would like to see them get taxed so much that their eyes are visibly bleeding. That would be fun to watch.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of us worked hard in school, spend years in college and graduate school and put in long hours at work. It isn't that hard of a formula.

Also, your anger is directed at people who are WORKING for money. Maybe you should redirect it to people who either aren't working and living off the system or those not working and living off trust funds.

This is just not true. The majority of these people were funded by their parents either through paying for education, help with rent, car payments, assistance with first home down payment, trusts or similar. The idea that the 1% is "working for money' is laughable. They were gifted funds and hardly seem to realize it. That's what OP is on about.

Who paid for OP to go to elementary, middle and high school? Did she pay for herself?

Property taxes? But you seem to miss the point. The vast majority of the super wealthy in this country did not pull themselves up by their bootstraps. They were given a leg up by their parents. While potentially OP - and many others - are busy digging themselves out of student debt or trying to save on a downpayment for that first house (or heaven forbid paying down medical bills), Daddy Warbucks' kid is earning interest on the gifted trust or other disposable income s/he has on hand that isn't going towards the crazy expenses that most normal folks have in this world. The rest of us normal folks will never catch up with that interest that you've got in trust for the kids and grandkids. And telling people just to "work harder" is purposefully misleading - because if you didn't have to pay your way, you never worked for it.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of us worked hard in school, spend years in college and graduate school and put in long hours at work. It isn't that hard of a formula.

Also, your anger is directed at people who are WORKING for money. Maybe you should redirect it to people who either aren't working and living off the system or those not working and living off trust funds.

I don't agree with OP, but that's your privilege showing.

What was my privilege? I'm a minority woman. I do have two married parents, so I guess that's my privilege?

Were they educated? If so, that's a privilege.

Anonymous wrote:and here OP is taking time out of their day (which is a privilege) typing on their computer (a privilege), accessing high speed internet (a privilege) most likely in their warm, comfortable, safe home (a privilege).

We are ALL privileged, some more than others, but for the love of god, your keyboard warrior mentality is sad.

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