Anonymous
02/20/2021 08:57
Subject: Hot-mic moment captures how some educators really feel
Point of clarification:
This is California, right?
Are these board members speaking of low income parents of black and brown kids? Or Bay Area tech dads and moms?
...because that difference matters. At least to me it does.
This is California, right?
Are these board members speaking of low income parents of black and brown kids? Or Bay Area tech dads and moms?
...because that difference matters. At least to me it does.
Anonymous
02/20/2021 08:57
Subject: Re:Hot-mic moment captures how some educators really feel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Have to say, parents totally deserve it this year, and plenty of other years for many reasons. Fully empathize.
Sorry- not sorry.
+1. And I am a parent; not a teacher.
Question: What do KIDS deserve?????
You are pathetic.
Anonymous
02/20/2021 08:55
Subject: Hot-mic moment captures how some educators really feel
I also can't read the article but judging by the pasted comments on page 1, this is pretty shameful.
The reality is that systems/workplaces/groups get toxic. These people are probably fed up, overburdened, low on morale, and also probably not deeply committed enough to dig deeper, and they've demonstrated they are no longer up to the job.
They should clean house and replace with people who care and are principled enough to serve. And the house cleaning should be these people resigning, as well as those who were present but didn't speak up to counter these abhorrent comments.
This is terribly sad.
The reality is that systems/workplaces/groups get toxic. These people are probably fed up, overburdened, low on morale, and also probably not deeply committed enough to dig deeper, and they've demonstrated they are no longer up to the job.
They should clean house and replace with people who care and are principled enough to serve. And the house cleaning should be these people resigning, as well as those who were present but didn't speak up to counter these abhorrent comments.
This is terribly sad.
Anonymous
02/20/2021 08:54
Subject: Hot-mic moment captures how some educators really feel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dear teacher who refers to students as "Hispanic," let me explain to you why you should refer to us as Latino/a. I'm about to do some emotional labor here, which I'm 99% sure you're going to ignore because you think your familiarity with us gives you some kind of authority.
Hispanic and Latino are often conflated. They are not the same. Hispanic refers to the language and Latino refers to the culture. If you have indigenous students in your classes (and if you have any from central America, you almost certainly do), these are Latinos, not Hispanics. Some of them may even speak Spanish, as is common in Guatemala, but that's the language of the colonizers. Brazilians are Latinos, not Hispanics. I can go on. This is just like how we don't call all Alaska Natives "Inuit" anymore.
Aside from mislabeling people with a moniker that refers to a particular language, "Hispanic" also refers to the colonizing culture. Many Latinos find it offensive for this reason.
I'm not going to get into Latinx. I don't understand it.
DP. Why is there a Hispanic/Latino category on tons of applications? Also, isn’t Latino also kind of a misnomer because indigenous students have very little to do with Ancient Rome and Latin?
Well this is a new and dumb argument. Amazing.
Anonymous
02/20/2021 08:51
Subject: Hot-mic moment captures how some educators really feel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent, and also someone who has a job. If I ever got caught talking this poorly about clients, I'd be fired.
The rest of you almost certainly would too. And it's deserved.
yeah it's really weird to see a bunch of parents high fiving teachers and education professionals for degrading them. being degraded is fun, but i am surprised you are ALL into that kind of thing.
They didn't degrade reasonable parents (like those of us posting in support of them). They degraded OPEN UP NOW NOW NOW ME ME ME parents, which is richly deserved.
+1
Anonymous
02/20/2021 02:54
Subject: Hot-mic moment captures how some educators really feel
Just more educators making liberals pro-voucher.
Anonymous
02/20/2021 02:31
Subject: Re:Hot-mic moment captures how some educators really feel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Shameful for these school officials to mock their own constituents like that. They have lost all moral authority in my eyes. Good luck getting me to vote for another school bond proposal!
I think school bond proposals will be failing all over this country in the coming years.
Never again, Fairfax County. Although I think the enrollment drop will obviate the need.
Ha! Where will they get money for all farms/ESOL students coming shortly after the immigration reform bill is signed?
Not my problem. Some Title 1 finding. Bigger classes for teachers. My kids a junior then out. But I’m not forgiving or forgetting. No bond vote from me.
Anonymous
02/20/2021 02:26
Subject: Hot-mic moment captures how some educators really feel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent, and also someone who has a job. If I ever got caught talking this poorly about clients, I'd be fired.
The rest of you almost certainly would too. And it's deserved.
yeah it's really weird to see a bunch of parents high fiving teachers and education professionals for degrading them. being degraded is fun, but i am surprised you are ALL into that kind of thing.
They didn't degrade reasonable parents (like those of us posting in support of them). They degraded OPEN UP NOW NOW NOW ME ME ME parents, which is richly deserved.
DP. They were degrading the hard-working, predominantly Latino families in their district. Which, apparently, you think is fine behavior, and that tells the rest of us all we need to know about you.
Anonymous
02/20/2021 02:20
Subject: Hot-mic moment captures how some educators really feel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dear teacher who refers to students as "Hispanic," let me explain to you why you should refer to us as Latino/a. I'm about to do some emotional labor here, which I'm 99% sure you're going to ignore because you think your familiarity with us gives you some kind of authority.
Hispanic and Latino are often conflated. They are not the same. Hispanic refers to the language and Latino refers to the culture. If you have indigenous students in your classes (and if you have any from central America, you almost certainly do), these are Latinos, not Hispanics. Some of them may even speak Spanish, as is common in Guatemala, but that's the language of the colonizers. Brazilians are Latinos, not Hispanics. I can go on. This is just like how we don't call all Alaska Natives "Inuit" anymore.
Aside from mislabeling people with a moniker that refers to a particular language, "Hispanic" also refers to the colonizing culture. Many Latinos find it offensive for this reason.
I'm not going to get into Latinx. I don't understand it.
DP. Why is there a Hispanic/Latino category on tons of applications? Also, isn’t Latino also kind of a misnomer because indigenous students have very little to do with Ancient Rome and Latin?
DP. Historically because people making the categories didn't know much about Latinos OR Hispanics. Most modern forms separate out Hispanic and Latino somehow these days, but some haven't caught up yet.
Anonymous
02/20/2021 01:11
Subject: Hot-mic moment captures how some educators really feel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent, and also someone who has a job. If I ever got caught talking this poorly about clients, I'd be fired.
The rest of you almost certainly would too. And it's deserved.
yeah it's really weird to see a bunch of parents high fiving teachers and education professionals for degrading them. being degraded is fun, but i am surprised you are ALL into that kind of thing.
They didn't degrade reasonable parents (like those of us posting in support of them). They degraded OPEN UP NOW NOW NOW ME ME ME parents, which is richly deserved.
Anonymous
02/20/2021 01:04
Subject: Re:Hot-mic moment captures how some educators really feel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Shameful for these school officials to mock their own constituents like that. They have lost all moral authority in my eyes. Good luck getting me to vote for another school bond proposal!
I think school bond proposals will be failing all over this country in the coming years.
Never again, Fairfax County. Although I think the enrollment drop will obviate the need.
Ha! Where will they get money for all farms/ESOL students coming shortly after the immigration reform bill is signed?
Anonymous
02/20/2021 01:02
Subject: Hot-mic moment captures how some educators really feel
Anonymous wrote:Dear teacher who refers to students as "Hispanic," let me explain to you why you should refer to us as Latino/a. I'm about to do some emotional labor here, which I'm 99% sure you're going to ignore because you think your familiarity with us gives you some kind of authority.
Hispanic and Latino are often conflated. They are not the same. Hispanic refers to the language and Latino refers to the culture. If you have indigenous students in your classes (and if you have any from central America, you almost certainly do), these are Latinos, not Hispanics. Some of them may even speak Spanish, as is common in Guatemala, but that's the language of the colonizers. Brazilians are Latinos, not Hispanics. I can go on. This is just like how we don't call all Alaska Natives "Inuit" anymore.
Aside from mislabeling people with a moniker that refers to a particular language, "Hispanic" also refers to the colonizing culture. Many Latinos find it offensive for this reason.
I'm not going to get into Latinx. I don't understand it.
DP. Why is there a Hispanic/Latino category on tons of applications? Also, isn’t Latino also kind of a misnomer because indigenous students have very little to do with Ancient Rome and Latin?
Anonymous
02/19/2021 23:42
Subject: Hot-mic moment captures how some educators really feel
Anonymous wrote:A lot of the things said by California school board members in this article echo some things posted by teacher on forums here. Absolutely shameful:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/02/19/oakley-union-parents-babysitters/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook
This evidence speaks volumes.
Fire them all and allow them to reapply.
Anonymous
02/19/2021 23:38
Subject: Hot-mic moment captures how some educators really feel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dear teacher who refers to students as "Hispanic," let me explain to you why you should refer to us as Latino/a. I'm about to do some emotional labor here, which I'm 99% sure you're going to ignore because you think your familiarity with us gives you some kind of authority.
Hispanic and Latino are often conflated. They are not the same. Hispanic refers to the language and Latino refers to the culture. If you have indigenous students in your classes (and if you have any from central America, you almost certainly do), these are Latinos, not Hispanics. Some of them may even speak Spanish, as is common in Guatemala, but that's the language of the colonizers. Brazilians are Latinos, not Hispanics. I can go on. This is just like how we don't call all Alaska Natives "Inuit" anymore.
Aside from mislabeling people with a moniker that refers to a particular language, "Hispanic" also refers to the colonizing culture. Many Latinos find it offensive for this reason.
I'm not going to get into Latinx. I don't understand it.
You didn't have to do that ... but thank you. You were gracious and kind, unlike that teacher.
+1
DP. I really didn’t know this. Thank you.
Anonymous
02/19/2021 23:27
Subject: Hot-mic moment captures how some educators really feel
Anonymous wrote:Shitty comments. I’m sure some parents do want their kids back in school just for the childcare, but kids do better with in-person school and they are struggling right now. Maybe we shouldn’t open schools but still we can’t ignore how much kids need school. Perhaps somewhere on the recording is a statement that suggests they give a damn about the kids and acknowledge that distance learning can’t last forever.
This.
And it's a crying shame that those so-called 'educators' are claiming that children are doing just fine with crappy DL classes twice a week. Everyone who's calling themselves a teacher should know that DL is not and never will be an equivalent substitute, not the way it's being offered.