Anonymous
02/19/2021 14:39
Subject: Re:Legal action
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Have you ever seen a more tone-deaf group of teachers on these boards? Do you want parents to hate you? It's working.
I don’t think teachers are tone deaf. I think they are frustrated from all of the blame being put on them and rightly so. Kids are going back to school and the complaints and attacks keep coming on teachers. Just look at this board. Within a day of RTS plan being announced, the complaining began. The main focus for everyone should be getting the kids in the building in the next few weeks and planning for the fall. Complaining and blaming for every little thing is ridiculous.
No. The entire profession has fought tooth and nail to get us into - and keep us in - this situation. The fact that the teachers federation would even propose no in-person learning until KIDS are vaccinated is almost unbelievable if it weren't for their previous anti-science positions.
Parents have every right at this point to want to put blame on the entire system - including teachers. The entire system needs to be put under a microscope - by a parent-led commission - to ensure this never happens again.
The Association may have done that. The Federation did not.
Does it matter? It's been proposed and that makes it real. If the Federation disagreed, they should have said so.
Anonymous
02/19/2021 14:27
Subject: Re:Legal action
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Have you ever seen a more tone-deaf group of teachers on these boards? Do you want parents to hate you? It's working.
I don’t think teachers are tone deaf. I think they are frustrated from all of the blame being put on them and rightly so. Kids are going back to school and the complaints and attacks keep coming on teachers. Just look at this board. Within a day of RTS plan being announced, the complaining began. The main focus for everyone should be getting the kids in the building in the next few weeks and planning for the fall. Complaining and blaming for every little thing is ridiculous.
No. The entire profession has fought tooth and nail to get us into - and keep us in - this situation. The fact that the teachers federation would even propose no in-person learning until KIDS are vaccinated is almost unbelievable if it weren't for their previous anti-science positions.
Parents have every right at this point to want to put blame on the entire system - including teachers. The entire system needs to be put under a microscope - by a parent-led commission - to ensure this never happens again.
The Association may have done that. The Federation did not.
Anonymous
02/19/2021 13:59
Subject: Re:Legal action
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Have you ever seen a more tone-deaf group of teachers on these boards? Do you want parents to hate you? It's working.
I don’t think teachers are tone deaf. I think they are frustrated from all of the blame being put on them and rightly so. Kids are going back to school and the complaints and attacks keep coming on teachers. Just look at this board. Within a day of RTS plan being announced, the complaining began. The main focus for everyone should be getting the kids in the building in the next few weeks and planning for the fall. Complaining and blaming for every little thing is ridiculous.
No. The entire profession has fought tooth and nail to get us into - and keep us in - this situation. The fact that the teachers federation would even propose no in-person learning until KIDS are vaccinated is almost unbelievable if it weren't for their previous anti-science positions.
Parents have every right at this point to want to put blame on the entire system - including teachers. The entire system needs to be put under a microscope - by a parent-led commission - to ensure this never happens again.
Anonymous
02/19/2021 13:53
Subject: Re:Legal action
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Become better parents. That’s my advice. I refrained from parent bashing for the last three months, but I am so fed up with being held responsible for the well being of complete strangers’ children, and being blamed for their well being or lack thereof.
If you are considering legal action, well, that’s one way to actively avoid facing and confronting your parenting issues. You aren’t helping your kids, though. That is what is sad about this.
Clearly a teacher plant. GET BACK TO WORK OR FILE UNEMPLOYMENT. SICK OF YOUR ENTITLEMENT.
I am working. Are you? How are your children doing? If you are as unhinged as you sound, I can guess at the answer.
I understand why you need teachers back in the building. It’s because they take better care of your children than you do. I feel sorry for you.
oh my gawd. We are great parents and we are concerned about our children's education. And to live in this expensive area- most of us have. to work so it has been pretty challenging to homeschool (because you are doing a terrible job) and work full time.
Anonymous
02/19/2021 13:38
Subject: Re:Legal action
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Have you ever seen a more tone-deaf group of teachers on these boards? Do you want parents to hate you? It's working.
I don’t think teachers are tone deaf. I think they are frustrated from all of the blame being put on them and rightly so. Kids are going back to school and the complaints and attacks keep coming on teachers. Just look at this board. Within a day of RTS plan being announced, the complaining began. The main focus for everyone should be getting the kids in the building in the next few weeks and planning for the fall. Complaining and blaming for every little thing is ridiculous.
I also think this teacher/parent divide is ridiculous. Most teachers are parents!
Anonymous
02/19/2021 13:35
Subject: Re:Legal action
Anonymous wrote:Have you ever seen a more tone-deaf group of teachers on these boards? Do you want parents to hate you? It's working.
I don’t think teachers are tone deaf. I think they are frustrated from all of the blame being put on them and rightly so. Kids are going back to school and the complaints and attacks keep coming on teachers. Just look at this board. Within a day of RTS plan being announced, the complaining began. The main focus for everyone should be getting the kids in the building in the next few weeks and planning for the fall. Complaining and blaming for every little thing is ridiculous.
Anonymous
02/19/2021 13:27
Subject: Re:Legal action
Have you ever seen a more tone-deaf group of teachers on these boards? Do you want parents to hate you? It's working.
Anonymous
02/19/2021 13:26
Subject: Re:Legal action
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Become better parents. That’s my advice. I refrained from parent bashing for the last three months, but I am so fed up with being held responsible for the well being of complete strangers’ children, and being blamed for their well being or lack thereof.
If you are considering legal action, well, that’s one way to actively avoid facing and confronting your parenting issues. You aren’t helping your kids, though. That is what is sad about this.
Clearly a teacher plant. GET BACK TO WORK OR FILE UNEMPLOYMENT. SICK OF YOUR ENTITLEMENT.
And we are also sick of yours.
I'm sorry - entitled is expecting in-person instruction when that is what science says is safe, is effective?? You are not at risk. If you are a public school teacher, science says that it is safe to teach in-person and therefore I am entitled to your labor. If you don't like it, find a new job. This would be delicious: you're probably an advocate for universal healthcare and tell doctors to suck it up and treat my kids.
Teachers: we're essential!
Also teachers: but we're not essential for actually educating. BE A BETTER PARENT-TEACHER!
Teachers: we're valuable to society!
Also teachers: but we're not THAT valuable. Do your jobs idiot parents!
Teachers: we love kids!
Also teachers: leave these crumb snatchers on my desktop - I never want to see them in person again!
Teachers: education is a human right!
Also teachers: not if I don't want to!
Anonymous
02/19/2021 13:15
Subject: Legal action
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There should be something done for Fairfax County residents to get some tax dollars refunded due to the lack of education provided by FCPS.
I haven't used the fire department over the last 20 years of living here. Where is my refund?
And I only drive on 10% of the roads. Where is my refund for the other 90%
But at least some people are benefiting from fire department services and some people are using those roads. They are available to you if you need them. Schools have been providing only a portion of their services and some kids can’t access them at all.
Anonymous
02/19/2021 13:15
Subject: Legal action
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There should be something done for Fairfax County residents to get some tax dollars refunded due to the lack of education provided by FCPS.
I haven't used the fire department over the last 20 years of living here. Where is my refund?
And I only drive on 10% of the roads. Where is my refund for the other 90%
They never treat or plow my road. The library hasn’t been open for regular business since March. It’s adding up. Lol
Anonymous
02/19/2021 13:11
Subject: Re:Legal action
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, do you understand that you're talking about something that is impossible? There is NO teacher's union to sue.
What is the FEA then? Because it’s tax status in VA is “Union”.
I’m not a member, but FEA, FCfT, etc have no peer to make any decisions regarding school operations.
One of them will in May.
It is highly doubtful it will all fall into place by May. Actually, it won’t.
"Teachers' unions" are so weak here it's a joke.
IF ONLY they were as powerful as the right-wing propaganda made them out to be.
Anonymous
02/19/2021 13:09
Subject: Legal action
Anonymous wrote:There should be something done for Fairfax County residents to get some tax dollars refunded due to the lack of education provided by FCPS.
I haven't used the fire department over the last 20 years of living here. Where is my refund?
And I only drive on 10% of the roads. Where is my refund for the other 90%
Anonymous
02/19/2021 13:06
Subject: Re:Legal action
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, do you understand that you're talking about something that is impossible? There is NO teacher's union to sue.
What is the FEA then? Because it’s tax status in VA is “Union”.
I’m not a member, but FEA, FCfT, etc have no peer to make any decisions regarding school operations.
One of them will in May.
It is highly doubtful it will all fall into place by May. Actually, it won’t.
It will in time to tank RTS in the fall. And FEA has been position itself for over a year. They will hit hard and fast and play on killing teachers to open schools to get a certification at lightening speed. Look at DCPS and Chicago. We’ve only seen the tip of the iceberg.
Anonymous
02/19/2021 13:03
Subject: Re:Legal action
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Become better parents. That’s my advice. I refrained from parent bashing for the last three months, but I am so fed up with being held responsible for the well being of complete strangers’ children, and being blamed for their well being or lack thereof.
If you are considering legal action, well, that’s one way to actively avoid facing and confronting your parenting issues. You aren’t helping your kids, though. That is what is sad about this.
Clearly a teacher plant. GET BACK TO WORK OR FILE UNEMPLOYMENT. SICK OF YOUR ENTITLEMENT.
I am working. Are you? How are your children doing? If you are as unhinged as you sound, I can guess at the answer.
I understand why you need teachers back in the building. It’s because they take better care of your children than you do. I feel sorry for you.
You’re not working though. You’re trolling chat rooms exposing your disdain for those you serve. That’s right: it used to be described as a calling, a public service to be an educator. You’ve laid bare how much you despise kids and parents though. You’re akin to a doctor that hates his or her patients. You’re actively harming kids; they are victims in your classroom. You should do the right thing and go find another job.
PP isn't "trolling" any more than you are, and you have no idea if they're on a scheduled break or day off - and here you are, too. Does your employer know you're not working and "trolling" an internet chat board?
And let's can the expectation of martyrdom for teachers. "Calling"? "Public service"? It's a job not a religious order. I don't work for free or peanuts, and it's absurd to expect teachers to. You want better candidates, then the pay and reward for better performance has to be there, particularly to put up with the asshole parents in FCPS (#notallparents). My kids have had great teachers, mediocre teachers, and terrible teachers - I'd love to see some incentive to keep the great ones and offload the terrible ones. Teachers don't do this for free and the days of it being a calling to serve the children are in the time when men earned more because they had a family to support and teaching was a nice job for ladies to have until they got married.
My kids are both in DL, and it's fine. Not great, not ideal for my SpEd kid in particular, but they're fine and we're involved to make sure they're staying up to speed as well as doing some supplementing (just as we would with in-person school). This hyperbolic victim mentality helps no one, and you do come across as a bit unhinged.
How are vaccinated teachers who chose to become teachers in classrooms earning a Fed equivalent salary for education and number of months worked and excellent benefits myarters? Especially since they assure us they can leave at any time and getter a better job with better pay and better conditions in the private sector?
You’re wallowing in self pity because COVID isn’t fair and you have to make tough decisions. But guess what, so does almost everyone else in this country. It isn’t fair to kids, to the elderly, to nurses, to working mom, to the hospitality industry, to the medically fragile... We have all had to put up with risk and suck. A lot of it. A year of making decisions with only bad op5ions. A year of being scared every time someone coughed. Only teachers seem to think that they are exempt from the awful choices and situations the rest of us have been dealing with for a year. That’s entitlement.
Anonymous
02/19/2021 12:58
Subject: Re:Legal action
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, do you understand that you're talking about something that is impossible? There is NO teacher's union to sue.
What is the FEA then? Because it’s tax status in VA is “Union”.
I’m not a member, but FEA, FCfT, etc have no peer to make any decisions regarding school operations.
One of them will in May.
It is highly doubtful it will all fall into place by May. Actually, it won’t.