We should be well past the point of trying to “please people” and solidly in to make these kids education a priority. Finally. Not to please parents or teachers or voters or political parties. To educate children.

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Anonymous wrote:Studies show it is about 1) politics (bluer voters means more likely to stay closed, but NYC and others can make an exception) and 2) power of the teacher’s unions.

In FCPS’s specific case the school board being utter novices has to be a factor.

NJ and MA have kids in school though so it’s not just Republican states with kids back.

Everywhere is different in MA. I know teachers there who have been remote all year because covid numbers are high in their district. I know many schools in MA have one teacher per grade level that’s remote all year for the families who chose it and the rest are hybrid. I don’t know any besides catholic schools that are back five days a week for kids but there could be.

CT and MA have small districts based on city/town- not on county like in VA. I think the problem is larger districts have a harder time finding a solution. Not all of CA had been remote all year but Los Angeles has been and that’s a big county.

Everywhere is just different and it’s harder to figure out a plan that pleases parents, teachers, and kids... especially in a larger county. Many parents and teachers just want to be back and other are concerned and want to remain remote. Cant please ‘em all....

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Anonymous wrote:They didn’t make it work. They accepted schools rotating constantly in and out of remote and in person, staff and students constantly quarantining, increased viral spread. Teachers have died, oh well. If you’re interesting, rent a house in Tennessee for 2nd semester and enroll your kids.

This. Happened in CO, OH, IN, CA, and other places.

+1000

Anonymous wrote:Too big to steer.

Seems like it. I don't get why this argument is somehow helpful to FCPS.

We're in a school that re-opened. It's not a morally easy decision to send him--some days I can't decide whether we're part of the problem or part of the solution.

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Anonymous wrote:They didn’t make it work. They accepted schools rotating constantly in and out of remote and in person, staff and students constantly quarantining, increased viral spread. Teachers have died, oh well. If you’re interesting, rent a house in Tennessee for 2nd semester and enroll your kids.

This. Happened in CO, OH, IN, CA, and other places.

Wrong. My niece in upstate NY has been going to school 5 days a week since September without one interruption. My nieces in Philly suburbs have been going to school hybrid since October without one interruption. Stop with the “it doesn’t work” narrative when clearly it can.

Too big to steer.

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Anonymous wrote:My sister lives in CT. Schools have been open for hybrid since the fall. Of course, they've also been intermittently closed, re-opened, and closed again since fall.

My hometown in CT has been doing hybrid for middle and high school since the fall and half days everyday for elementary. They are now starting plans to fully open back up. It has been very successful. They take COVID seriously but also want kids to learn.

Does your home town CT ES schools have close to 1000 students like here? I grew up in NE and our schools were by towns or small county's.

I have kids at two different FCPS schools, neither has 1000 students. More like 600-700.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My sister lives in CT. Schools have been open for hybrid since the fall. Of course, they've also been intermittently closed, re-opened, and closed again since fall.

My hometown in CT has been doing hybrid for middle and high school since the fall and half days everyday for elementary. They are now starting plans to fully open back up. It has been very successful. They take COVID seriously but also want kids to learn.

Does your home town CT ES schools have close to 1000 students like here? I grew up in NE and our schools were by towns or small county's.

I agree county systems make it harder (but not impossible). That is why I wish school systems were town based here.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They didn’t make it work. They accepted schools rotating constantly in and out of remote and in person, staff and students constantly quarantining, increased viral spread. Teachers have died, oh well. If you’re interesting, rent a house in Tennessee for 2nd semester and enroll your kids.

This. Happened in CO, OH, IN, CA, and other places.

Yes. With a virus with a 99.99% survival rate..some people still get sick and die. Teachers would have died whether they were working, or not. Grocery store clerks died. Nurses died. Postal workers died.

I don't believe that survival rate is accurate. Further, you don't get to decide the risk tolerance for teachers. You just don't.

Grocery store clerks, postal workers, nurses . . . yes, they died. They should not have but people could not be bothered (collectively) to think beyond their own wants and THOSE PEOPLE caused those deaths. Further, teachers are not essential in the same way. They do not need to be onsite to teach, all the bitching and whining to the contrary. There are certainly failings in DL, and I have some complaints, but that is not due to teachers but how the district has implemented in (FCPS).

You are very naive to think all deaths could have been prevented. What exactly did the selfish people do to cause the deaths of grocery store clerks, postal workers, and nurses? Buy food for their families?

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Anonymous wrote:My sister lives in CT. Schools have been open for hybrid since the fall. Of course, they've also been intermittently closed, re-opened, and closed again since fall.

My hometown in CT has been doing hybrid for middle and high school since the fall and half days everyday for elementary. They are now starting plans to fully open back up. It has been very successful. They take COVID seriously but also want kids to learn.

Does your home town CT ES schools have close to 1000 students like here? I grew up in NE and our schools were by towns or small county's.

Anonymous wrote:My sister lives in CT. Schools have been open for hybrid since the fall. Of course, they've also been intermittently closed, re-opened, and closed again since fall.

My hometown in CT has been doing hybrid for middle and high school since the fall and half days everyday for elementary. They are now starting plans to fully open back up. It has been very successful. They take COVID seriously but also want kids to learn.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They didn’t make it work. They accepted schools rotating constantly in and out of remote and in person, staff and students constantly quarantining, increased viral spread. Teachers have died, oh well. If you’re interesting, rent a house in Tennessee for 2nd semester and enroll your kids.

This. Happened in CO, OH, IN, CA, and other places.

Yes. With a virus with a 99.99% survival rate..some people still get sick and die. Teachers would have died whether they were working, or not. Grocery store clerks died. Nurses died. Postal workers died.

I don't think that number is accurate.

NP - I *think* what PP is saying is even with a 99.99% survival rate people still die. So saying someone died suggesting it is only safe when no one ever does, is unreasonable. As a scientist I agree. Even staying home or non-virus, sometimes people die. It is not callous, it is reality.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They didn’t make it work. They accepted schools rotating constantly in and out of remote and in person, staff and students constantly quarantining, increased viral spread. Teachers have died, oh well. If you’re interesting, rent a house in Tennessee for 2nd semester and enroll your kids.

This. Happened in CO, OH, IN, CA, and other places.

Yes. With a virus with a 99.99% survival rate..some people still get sick and die. Teachers would have died whether they were working, or not. Grocery store clerks died. Nurses died. Postal workers died.

I don't believe that survival rate is accurate. Further, you don't get to decide the risk tolerance for teachers. You just don't.

Grocery store clerks, postal workers, nurses . . . yes, they died. They should not have but people could not be bothered (collectively) to think beyond their own wants and THOSE PEOPLE caused those deaths. Further, teachers are not essential in the same way. They do not need to be onsite to teach, all the bitching and whining to the contrary. There are certainly failings in DL, and I have some complaints, but that is not due to teachers but how the district has implemented in (FCPS).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They didn’t make it work. They accepted schools rotating constantly in and out of remote and in person, staff and students constantly quarantining, increased viral spread. Teachers have died, oh well. If you’re interesting, rent a house in Tennessee for 2nd semester and enroll your kids.

This. Happened in CO, OH, IN, CA, and other places.

Yes. With a virus with a 99.99% survival rate..some people still get sick and die. Teachers would have died whether they were working, or not. Grocery store clerks died. Nurses died. Postal workers died.

I don't think that number is accurate.