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From an academic standpoint this could be fun. What are the laws regarding secession? I

There is no Constitutional provision for a state to secede from the union.

So does that mean it's expressly forbidden? Because that sounds like saying "there's no agreement in our marriage to do this." But the marriage is so bad at this point that it seems like it might make a whole lot more sense for the parties to agree to an amicable divorce due to irreconcilable differences. The NYT had a headline yesterday about Republicans who joined the impeachment vote facing severe backlash. Another article a week or two ago somewhere else said many were remaining quiet because they feared for their lives. Congress has essentially been paralyzed for years.

We could have ironclad separation of church and state, free and widely available contraception, bans on gun ownership, free basic healthcare for all with QALY limits and optional premium private plans, a higher minimum wage, cheaper public universities and a slew of trade/apprenticeship programs starting in high school, strong environmental protection...

They could have mandatory prayer in schools, vouchers, a total ban on contraception and abortion, free and open carry everywhere, privatized everything, no minimum wage, no environmental protection laws...they could even have Trump as their king if they want!

People could just sell their property and move to the country they liked better during an interim transition period. After that, immigration laws would apply.

Just wondering. Explain to me why this is a really bad idea.

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Anonymous wrote:Randos have been saying this since the dawn of time. The only difference now is they are getting press and headlines which may rally others to their cause. If the media would ignore them as always and stop giving them attention seekers fuel, they would continue to make this noise around the campfire and then go to bed.

A member of the State legislature filing a bill is not a rando.

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Anonymous wrote:From an academic standpoint this could be fun. What are the laws regarding secession? I honestly don’t know and was intrigued when people in California and other states were talking about this in 2016/17. Can it be done in a legal peaceful fashion? What’s the mechanism? Could a state hold a referendum and simply declare themselves sovereign? Let’s allow this to play out!

+1 - I'd actually like to see/read a few pieces on this. Texas has its own electrical grid and relatively little in the way of federal lands. And sure, petroleum is in decline, but the big petroleum companies (and even some not so big) are doing fine and know they have to change with the times. The greater Austin area is already a tech hub.

I don't think Texas will actually leave the union, but I'd like to read about it nonetheless.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to mention that with new energy technology finally catching on and bio alternatives to petrochemicals becoming more mainstream, oil is basically like the DVD player of energy technology - a lot of people still have them but probably won't in a few years.

Their "national" industry is becoming obsolete no matter how hard they dig in their heels.

Who are you talking to?

All these posters who seem to know very little about Texas. But think they know everything.

I know. It's laughable. In just a few years no car will run on gas, all plastic will disappear, no ships will cross the ocean, no planes will fly! It's definitely happening!

Don’t let the door hit you one the way out. You can make Cruz your new president. He can reinstate slavery and only allow white landholding men the vote.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to mention that with new energy technology finally catching on and bio alternatives to petrochemicals becoming more mainstream, oil is basically like the DVD player of energy technology - a lot of people still have them but probably won't in a few years.

Their "national" industry is becoming obsolete no matter how hard they dig in their heels.

Who are you talking to?

All these posters who seem to know very little about Texas. But think they know everything.

I know. It's laughable. In just a few years no car will run on gas, all plastic will disappear, no ships will cross the ocean, no planes will fly! It's definitely happening!

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like their ultimate goal is to have the US try to stop them so they have an reason to go to combat. They want to use all their militia toys and just need an excuse to do it. I don't think they have thought about what happens after that point. They just want to play war. This pandemic needs to end soon. People have way too much time on their hands.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to mention that with new energy technology finally catching on and bio alternatives to petrochemicals becoming more mainstream, oil is basically like the DVD player of energy technology - a lot of people still have them but probably won't in a few years.

Their "national" industry is becoming obsolete no matter how hard they dig in their heels.

Who are you talking to?

All these posters who seem to know very little about Texas. But think they know everything.

Anonymous wrote:Randos have been saying this since the dawn of time. The only difference now is they are getting press and headlines which may rally others to their cause. If the media would ignore them as always and stop giving them attention seekers fuel, they would continue to make this noise around the campfire and then go to bed.

Anonymous wrote:From an academic standpoint this could be fun. What are the laws regarding secession? I honestly don’t know and was intrigued when people in California and other states were talking about this in 2016/17. Can it be done in a legal peaceful fashion? What’s the mechanism? Could a state hold a referendum and simply declare themselves sovereign? Let’s allow this to play out!

Anonymous wrote:Why do they want to secede? Slavery? A vote that didn't go their way?

As a (former) Texan, I think these guys are idiots and morons. They should go sleep on the couch.

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Anonymous wrote:I live outside of Houston in one of the most conservative counties and no nobody is talking about this because it's not real. Texas isn't leaving. Full stop.

This, 100%
It seems that every once in a while Texas gets spun up and threatens to leave. No one is going anywhere.

Texas has always had one foot in and one foot out. The biggest security breach of the US government originated in Texas. It’s not a coincidence. Texans loyalty to the US is not even questionable it is non existent.

They are Texans first. Several years ago a colleague asked if a coworker and I were both from the south because "you two have the same accent." He was sooooo offended and huffed "I'm am from Texas, I have a Texas accent, she is from South Carolina, she has a Southern accent, Texans are not Southerners, we are Texans!"

Texans are Texans, not Southerners. But we're definitely Americans.

I really wonder about this thread. Are all the posters just amusing themselves or do they really believe any of this nonsense?

I just believe the what they say and their actions. They say they are Texans first and want to leave the US. Are you saying we should not take a Texan for his word? A Texan will sell out the USA because Texans do not consider themselves American.

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Anonymous wrote:I live outside of Houston in one of the most conservative counties and no nobody is talking about this because it's not real. Texas isn't leaving. Full stop.

This, 100%
It seems that every once in a while Texas gets spun up and threatens to leave. No one is going anywhere.

Texas has always had one foot in and one foot out. The biggest security breach of the US government originated in Texas. It’s not a coincidence. Texans loyalty to the US is not even questionable it is non existent.

They are Texans first. Several years ago a colleague asked if a coworker and I were both from the south because "you two have the same accent." He was sooooo offended and huffed "I'm am from Texas, I have a Texas accent, she is from South Carolina, she has a Southern accent, Texans are not Southerners, we are Texans!"

Texans are Texans, not Southerners. But we're definitely Americans.

I really wonder about this thread. Are all the posters just amusing themselves or do they really believe any of this nonsense?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live outside of Houston in one of the most conservative counties and no nobody is talking about this because it's not real. Texas isn't leaving. Full stop.

This, 100%
It seems that every once in a while Texas gets spun up and threatens to leave. No one is going anywhere.

Texas has always had one foot in and one foot out. The biggest security breach of the US government originated in Texas. It’s not a coincidence. Texans loyalty to the US is not even questionable it is non existent.

They are Texans first. Several years ago a colleague asked if a coworker and I were both from the south because "you two have the same accent." He was sooooo offended and huffed "I'm am from Texas, I have a Texas accent, she is from South Carolina, she has a Southern accent, Texans are not Southerners, we are Texans!"