Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 17:36     Subject: Re:4th grade dropouts
When they were in school face to face, they came home excited to tell me about their day and show me what they were working on. Now they log off and cry for hours.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 17:34     Subject: Re:4th grade dropouts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone for talking me off the ledge. I'm feeling a bit better now and of course I'm going to work with them on math and English. Just for maybe an hour or two a day - just not 7 hours a day. And I'm not enrolling them anywhere. I can follow Khan Academy and IXL for math and I've got a really good idea of what they need in terms of English since I'm a journalist and I've been reading what they write. I'll update if I hear from the school board or CPS or the truancy police (Who is that, exactly? My husband is asking.)


How is different from now?


I'm the OP. At least I don't feel like such a failure knowing that others feel the same and have done the same. This whole thread has been about wrapping my head around the fact that something I took as a complete given - the education of my kids through high school in a regular predictable fashion - has stopped today.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 17:34     Subject: 4th grade dropouts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it always the same poster who complains about regression? Because that's not normal, and shouldn't happen if your child attends their virtual learning and you do your parenting job.

Do you check the homework? You must, every day.
Also check for organization, and that your child knows what to hand in when.
Multiplication is supposed to be practiced regularly at home until it's solid. Ask for one table a day.

I think your mistake is thinking that you can be totally hands-off as your child grows older. This isn't preschool. Even if your child were in the building, you'd need to help your child memorize their multiplication tables. I don't know one parent who hasn't helped their child to practice this!

Essentially, this is a failure of understanding your changing role as a parent of a grade-school child.


Go back to sleep, granny. We'll wake you when your life experience is relevant.


I have a 5th grader and a 10th grader and I'm 40. I know what I'm talking about. Stop dodging.

My kids have no interest in anything educational after all day online learning. They have headaches and hate school. Should I just beat them until they do their extra multiplication tables?




TBH, it probably will be the same in a F-2-F school. The material is getting harder and required more time investment in order to do well. I agree with the 40-y.o. granny PP's approach.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 17:31     Subject: 4th grade dropouts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it always the same poster who complains about regression? Because that's not normal, and shouldn't happen if your child attends their virtual learning and you do your parenting job.

Do you check the homework? You must, every day.
Also check for organization, and that your child knows what to hand in when.
Multiplication is supposed to be practiced regularly at home until it's solid. Ask for one table a day.

I think your mistake is thinking that you can be totally hands-off as your child grows older. This isn't preschool. Even if your child were in the building, you'd need to help your child memorize their multiplication tables. I don't know one parent who hasn't helped their child to practice this!

Essentially, this is a failure of understanding your changing role as a parent of a grade-school child.


Go back to sleep, granny. We'll wake you when your life experience is relevant.


I have a 5th grader and a 10th grader and I'm 40. I know what I'm talking about. Stop dodging.

My kids have no interest in anything educational after all day online learning. They have headaches and hate school. Should I just beat them until they do their extra multiplication tables?

Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 17:30     Subject: Re:4th grade dropouts
Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone for talking me off the ledge. I'm feeling a bit better now and of course I'm going to work with them on math and English. Just for maybe an hour or two a day - just not 7 hours a day. And I'm not enrolling them anywhere. I can follow Khan Academy and IXL for math and I've got a really good idea of what they need in terms of English since I'm a journalist and I've been reading what they write. I'll update if I hear from the school board or CPS or the truancy police (Who is that, exactly? My husband is asking.)


How is different from now?
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 17:30     Subject: 4th grade dropouts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it always the same poster who complains about regression? Because that's not normal, and shouldn't happen if your child attends their virtual learning and you do your parenting job.

Do you check the homework? You must, every day.
Also check for organization, and that your child knows what to hand in when.
Multiplication is supposed to be practiced regularly at home until it's solid. Ask for one table a day.

I think your mistake is thinking that you can be totally hands-off as your child grows older. This isn't preschool. Even if your child were in the building, you'd need to help your child memorize their multiplication tables. I don't know one parent who hasn't helped their child to practice this!

Essentially, this is a failure of understanding your changing role as a parent of a grade-school child.


Go back to sleep, granny. We'll wake you when your life experience is relevant.


I have a 5th grader and a 10th grader and I'm 40. I know what I'm talking about. Stop dodging.

Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 17:29     Subject: 4th grade dropouts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No plan to homeschool or another school is neglect. Why on earth would you do that?


Surely it's not neglect to send them into the backyard to play instead of sitting around all day.


They’re going to do that? The novelty’s going to wear off pretty quickly.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 17:29     Subject: Re:4th grade dropouts
Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone for talking me off the ledge. I'm feeling a bit better now and of course I'm going to work with them on math and English. Just for maybe an hour or two a day - just not 7 hours a day. And I'm not enrolling them anywhere. I can follow Khan Academy and IXL for math and I've got a really good idea of what they need in terms of English since I'm a journalist and I've been reading what they write. I'll update if I hear from the school board or CPS or the truancy police (Who is that, exactly? My husband is asking.)


The school board suggests talking to the school counselors. Who are these people and what can they do? Maybe they can provide the math study guides in advance for the rest of the year?
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 17:28     Subject: 4th grade dropouts
Damn y’all are a mess. Blessings.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 17:26     Subject: 4th grade dropouts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No plan to homeschool or another school is neglect. Why on earth would you do that?


Surely it's not neglect to send them into the backyard to play instead of sitting around all day.


That's not a real strategy for January through August.

Even if the parents work full time, they are going to have to find SOME time to manage their children. I assume they have been doing some of this anyway. They don't have to do it in the mornings... they can do it anytime. But, it's not really ideal to let your kids forget all their math or spelling or whatever. Surely it is to the kids' benefit to go into school next year with some education to prepare them.


OP has no plan to work with her kids educationally.


Which will have the same result as FCPS.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 17:25     Subject: Re:4th grade dropouts
Thanks everyone for talking me off the ledge. I'm feeling a bit better now and of course I'm going to work with them on math and English. Just for maybe an hour or two a day - just not 7 hours a day. And I'm not enrolling them anywhere. I can follow Khan Academy and IXL for math and I've got a really good idea of what they need in terms of English since I'm a journalist and I've been reading what they write. I'll update if I hear from the school board or CPS or the truancy police (Who is that, exactly? My husband is asking.)
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 17:24     Subject: Re:4th grade dropouts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not really sure what it means to be honest. I'm not signing up for a homeschooling program. My husband and I both work although our hours are flexible. This afternoon we just all sort of hit the wall. My kids had epic meltdowns after school - my daughter crying endlessly about her headache - and then I got another email from FCPS pushing back distance learning and we decided we can't do it anymore.


Are you familiar with Virginia’s compulsory education laws?


Ha I cannot believe the drama that would ensue if they enforced these laws this year.


Why? If you choose to homeschool then you are committing to the rules.


As someone who dis-enrolled a kid this year, I just want to say that it turns out there are very few "rules"! You have to prove that you have a HS education. And you are supposed to provide proof of progress by Aug. 1. But if you don't -- guess what -- -the "penalty" is that you are on "probation" for Homeschooling next year! If you don't plan to homeschool next year, then what does it matter? It only matters by the fact that your kids will be less ready to start back to school in the fall. So, if you care about your kids' having a smooth transition next fall, then you might want to at least keep them doing SOMETHING between now and then. It's obviously very flexible -- especially with elementary school kids -- but it would be smart to at least have your kids read, do some writing/spelling, and stay on top of math. It doesn't have to be a full school curriculum, but I wouldn't just put kids out to pasture and hope for the best next Sept.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 17:23     Subject: 4th grade dropouts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No plan to homeschool or another school is neglect. Why on earth would you do that?


Surely it's not neglect to send them into the backyard to play instead of sitting around all day.


That's not a real strategy for January through August.

Even if the parents work full time, they are going to have to find SOME time to manage their children. I assume they have been doing some of this anyway. They don't have to do it in the mornings... they can do it anytime. But, it's not really ideal to let your kids forget all their math or spelling or whatever. Surely it is to the kids' benefit to go into school next year with some education to prepare them.


OP has no plan to work with her kids educationally.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 17:23     Subject: 4th grade dropouts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No plan to homeschool or another school is neglect. Why on earth would you do that?


Surely it's not neglect to send them into the backyard to play instead of sitting around all day.


Ye it is, if you are taking charge of their education.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 17:22     Subject: 4th grade dropouts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it always the same poster who complains about regression? Because that's not normal, and shouldn't happen if your child attends their virtual learning and you do your parenting job.

Do you check the homework? You must, every day.
Also check for organization, and that your child knows what to hand in when.
Multiplication is supposed to be practiced regularly at home until it's solid. Ask for one table a day.

I think your mistake is thinking that you can be totally hands-off as your child grows older. This isn't preschool. Even if your child were in the building, you'd need to help your child memorize their multiplication tables. I don't know one parent who hasn't helped their child to practice this!

Essentially, this is a failure of understanding your changing role as a parent of a grade-school child.


Go back to sleep, granny. We'll wake you when your life experience is relevant.


You are failing as a parent if you don't make sure your kids are getting an education. At least Granny didn't fail their kids. Granny has educated kids who are learning to be resilient and what is important. What are you going to do? Hold back your kids a year or two until school reopens so they will be 20 when they graduate?