Anonymous wrote:I think it's an undisputed fact that most university professors are more liberal than the population at large. IDK what a "political" school is, but maybe the OP is referring to this...

Educated people are more liberal because they understand what good governance can mean for a population. I mean, just use the small government example - how is that working for vaccine distribution?

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Anonymous wrote:Liberty. By political you mean “liberal” right? You’re fine if the politics are to the right so a school like Liberty should be fine.

OP. Thanks for trying to type cast me. No, not interested in Liberty which is also political. DC is sick of all politics and would like a college experience of the type I had as a 18 year old.

18 year olds in the US of A are expected to be educated to be voters as part of their responsibility to the country. Maybe your kid should move to a country where politics doesn't matter, like North Korea, China or Russia.

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Anonymous wrote:Liberty. By political you mean “liberal” right? You’re fine if the politics are to the right so a school like Liberty should be fine.

NP, not OP, but this is my question too. And yes, I'll say it - I am not interested in sending DC to a progressive/ liberal school. Liberty is not what we're looking for.

Any other thoughts?

I think you underestimate how much the current wokeness has seized higher ed. When I went to professional school, it was just that. For learning my profession. My school has been annexed by Wokeistan. And don’t get me wrong, I’m totally #BLM, but it’s definitely a different place than before.

Maybe engineering programs are still focused on core curriculum but no way any SLAC or Ivy in America is.

I think you are oversestimating it because Fox and OANN have pushed it as an agenda item.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess if you don't want a "woke" environment you prefer one where people keep their heads in the sand and aren't willing to think critically or outside the box.
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Critical thinking and thinking outside the box is the exact opposite of wokeness. Perhaps this is why you were confused by my earlier comment

Wokeness is the epitome of ovine behavior. Perhaps it's practitioners engage in this behavior to maximize their perceived chances of getting laid.

+1. And the irony is, there is nothing more unattractive to most women than a so-called "woke" man.

Poor things. They lament not being able to find a sufficiently patriarchal, white supremacist school for their delecate snowflakes, and they imagine that the tastes of scared, pearl clutching middle aged Trumpkin ladies apply to young men and women. Nobody tell them about what dating life is ACTUALLY like for young people these days -- they'd be terrified.

Why don't you decamp over to the political forum where you can wallow in the cesspool with your people.
The adults on this board would like to have a grown-up conversation.

Adults don't engage in juvenile insults about the sex lives of "woke" teenagers as PP did.

Real adults also recognize that being aware of systemic racism and bias is the only intellectually honest position and don't try to insulate themselves from that discussion in academic bastions of 1950s white supremacy and patriarchy.

And I hate to break it to you, but the conversations going on daily in boardrooms and C-suites about systemic bias and diversity are much closer to what's happening at Yale than what's happening at W&L.

Erm, folks aren’t handed a Sterling professorship. You believe him to be undeserving?

Anonymous wrote:Yale, in particular, may have already passed the point of no return when it comes to the appeasement of far-left CRT adherents. If that sounds like hyperbole, just read up on what happened there to Erika and Nicholas Christakis, which was a complete travesty.

You mean the way he was given a professorship?

In terms of the Ivies, OP, I think you would be most comfortable at Cornell, Dartmouth, Penn or Princeton. Unless you are really just looking for an aggressively conservative institution, although you should not mistake conservative values with apolitical ones.

Brown, Columbia, Harvard, and Yale will be further left; Yale, in particular, may have already passed the point of no return when it comes to the appeasement of far-left CRT adherents. If that sounds like hyperbole, just read up on what happened there to Erika and Nicholas Christakis, which was a complete travesty.

I have kids at 2 different NESCAC schools. They take a variety of classes, and learn the same math, history, economics I did 30 years ago. They like to hang out with their friends, eat pizza, watch movies, have deep conversations until the wee hours of the morning. What am I missing?

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Anonymous wrote:I guess if you don't want a "woke" environment you prefer one where people keep their heads in the sand and aren't willing to think critically or outside the box.
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Critical thinking and thinking outside the box is the exact opposite of wokeness. Perhaps this is why you were confused by my earlier comment

Wokeness is the epitome of ovine behavior. Perhaps it's practitioners engage in this behavior to maximize their perceived chances of getting laid.

+1. And the irony is, there is nothing more unattractive to most women than a so-called "woke" man.

Poor things. They lament not being able to find a sufficiently patriarchal, white supremacist school for their delecate snowflakes, and they imagine that the tastes of scared, pearl clutching middle aged Trumpkin ladies apply to young men and women. Nobody tell them about what dating life is ACTUALLY like for young people these days -- they'd be terrified.

Why don't you decamp over to the political forum where you can wallow in the cesspool with your people.
The adults on this board would like to have a grown-up conversation.

Anonymous wrote:Not sure it’s worth engaging at this point but the number of schools where a kid could not study hard, if that’s what they wanted to do, because of campus politics is pretty small

(feel free to complain about the campus strikes, but those are clearly the exception. If you really want to avoid them then probably go to a larger school).

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Military Academy! West Point, Annapolis or Colorado Springs.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess if you don't want a "woke" environment you prefer one where people keep their heads in the sand and aren't willing to think critically or outside the box.
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Critical thinking and thinking outside the box is the exact opposite of wokeness. Perhaps this is why you were confused by my earlier comment

Wokeness is the epitome of ovine behavior. Perhaps it's practitioners engage in this behavior to maximize their perceived chances of getting laid.

+1. And the irony is, there is nothing more unattractive to most women than a so-called "woke" man.

Poor things. They lament not being able to find a sufficiently patriarchal, white supremacist school for their delecate snowflakes, and they imagine that the tastes of scared, pearl clutching middle aged Trumpkin ladies apply to young men and women. Nobody tell them about what dating life is ACTUALLY like for young people these days -- they'd be terrified.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess if you don't want a "woke" environment you prefer one where people keep their heads in the sand and aren't willing to think critically or outside the box.
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Critical thinking and thinking outside the box is the exact opposite of wokeness. Perhaps this is why you were confused by my earlier comment

Wokeness is the epitome of ovine behavior. Perhaps it's practitioners engage in this behavior to maximize their perceived chances of getting laid.

+1. And the irony is, there is nothing more unattractive to most women than a so-called "woke" man.

Right, real men don't eat broccoli.

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Critical thinking and thinking outside the box is the exact opposite of wokeness. Perhaps this is why you were confused by my earlier comment

Wokeness is the epitome of ovine behavior. Perhaps it's practitioners engage in this behavior to maximize their perceived chances of getting laid.

+1. And the irony is, there is nothing more unattractive to most women than a so-called "woke" man.

I assume you send your kid to a school where they still claim the election was stolen.

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Anonymous wrote:Wash and Lee. Notre Dame. Tulane. Baylor. Ivies are political.

“Ivies are political”. God that is stupid word salad. Please ignore this idiocy. I guarantee more polarized thinking at ND and Baylor than at Dartmouth or Cornell.

You deplorable traitorous capitol storming mouth breathers will never learn.

😂 we hit a nerve, clearly.

Yes, you ignorant traitorous POS have been hitting nerves with your racist sexist white supremacism for year and it came to a head recently.

Also, this is yet another thread where you don't understand the meaning of the term "liberal arts". It means the opposite of what you think.

Get your knuckles off the ground and learn something.

You know, just because a kid wants to go to college and focus on their studies instead of politics does not mean they are automatic racists. You are seriously making pp’s point for them.

Lol. The irony. It’s soooooo funny. “Ivies are political”. So stupid. OK, no prob, don’t go. I am happy to make PPs point for them. Proud, even.

What about PPs point that you don’t understand what liberal arts means?

DP. I think it is pretty clear that you would never qualify to go to any Ivy League school so it is interesting and odd that you're so defensive of them. What gives? Are you just a bad troll or are you off your meds?

Hurl insults away. Does not bother me. I did not attend an ivy but my kids do, so I am experienced to that degree.

Now, answer the question: What about PPs point that you don’t understand what liberal arts means?

NP here but the definition of "liberal arts" in relation to colleges is nicely defined on Niche

"What is meant by the term “liberal arts”?

Liberal arts has nothing to do with being liberal, and originally, it actually had nothing to do with arts. So what is it all about?

To find that out, you have to go back to the era of classical antiquity. Liberal arts grew out of this period in which certain studies were considered liberales, or worthy of a free person. At the time, that consisted of just three subjects: grammar, rhetoric, and logic. Together, these were known as the trivium. Other subjects — arithmetic, geometry, music, and astronomy — were folded in during Medieval times, and the trivium expanded to a quadrivium.

Today, there are far more disciplines that fall under the liberal arts curriculum, including — surprise! — art, literature, philosophy, social sciences (like history, anthropology, and economics) natural sciences, math, and many more.

Despite these evolutions, the goal of a liberal arts education has remained the same: to create an individual whose education is robust and versatile. Students of liberal arts are expected to be knowledgeable about a wide range of subjects, and to have developed skills that translate well to a variety of scenarios."