Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think Duran has achieved the impossible. He's managed to piss off teachers AND a majority of parents with this plan.
Where are you getting that a majority of parents are pissed off?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Except that conditions are awful. You can ignore that if you want and call it goalpost moving. But in the world conditions have still changed. For the worse. It’s goalpost moving if community spread reaches set metrics and people move the metrics. Not goalpost moving to say that community spread is off the charts. Seriously. Saying something doesn’t make it so. Either does wanting it badly or even needing it.
and again, they aren't fighting against going back post-vaccine. they are fighting that they are going back to empty classrooms (so why be at the school?) when they can wait just a few weeks to be vaccinated and be in the school WITH students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Except that conditions are awful. You can ignore that if you want and call it goalpost moving. But in the world conditions have still changed. For the worse. It’s goalpost moving if community spread reaches set metrics and people move the metrics. Not goalpost moving to say that community spread is off the charts. Seriously. Saying something doesn’t make it so. Either does wanting it badly or even needing it.
and again, they aren't fighting against going back post-vaccine. they are fighting that they are going back to empty classrooms (so why be at the school?) when they can wait just a few weeks to be vaccinated and be in the school WITH students
Actually, AEA is fighting to keep school fully virtual for the rest of the school year even if teachers can get vaccinations.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Except that conditions are awful. You can ignore that if you want and call it goalpost moving. But in the world conditions have still changed. For the worse. It’s goalpost moving if community spread reaches set metrics and people move the metrics. Not goalpost moving to say that community spread is off the charts. Seriously. Saying something doesn’t make it so. Either does wanting it badly or even needing it.
and again, they aren't fighting against going back post-vaccine. they are fighting that they are going back to empty classrooms (so why be at the school?) when they can wait just a few weeks to be vaccinated and be in the school WITH students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I think this plan is simply ridiculous. As other posters have commented, we are at the height of the pandemic right now, so Duran brilliantly thinks now is the ideal time to go back? I want my kids back in school, but not now and not before teachers receive vaccinations. All APS would have to do is wait a bit longer, but nooooo.
The goal posts will continually move if you don’t draw the line somewhere. First, it was unsafe in March, then it was unsafe in the fall, now the numbers are high and there’s the variant. Where will it ever stop? Teachers vaccinated? Then it will be about students getting vaccinated. You have to draw the line somewhere and he is attempting to do that. And LET’S NOT FORGET every other public and private system that has reopened while APS has been closed. We have no excuse when you look at everyone else who has already reopened and continues to remain open.
Anonymous wrote:Except that conditions are awful. You can ignore that if you want and call it goalpost moving. But in the world conditions have still changed. For the worse. It’s goalpost moving if community spread reaches set metrics and people move the metrics. Not goalpost moving to say that community spread is off the charts. Seriously. Saying something doesn’t make it so. Either does wanting it badly or even needing it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I think this plan is simply ridiculous. As other posters have commented, we are at the height of the pandemic right now, so Duran brilliantly thinks now is the ideal time to go back? I want my kids back in school, but not now and not before teachers receive vaccinations. All APS would have to do is wait a bit longer, but nooooo.
The goal posts will continually move if you don’t draw the line somewhere. First, it was unsafe in March, then it was unsafe in the fall, now the numbers are high and there’s the variant. Where will it ever stop? Teachers vaccinated? Then it will be about students getting vaccinated. You have to draw the line somewhere and he is attempting to do that. And LET’S NOT FORGET every other public and private system that has reopened while APS has been closed. We have no excuse when you look at everyone else who has already reopened and continues to remain open.
Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I think this plan is simply ridiculous. As other posters have commented, we are at the height of the pandemic right now, so Duran brilliantly thinks now is the ideal time to go back? I want my kids back in school, but not now and not before teachers receive vaccinations. All APS would have to do is wait a bit longer, but nooooo.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I think this plan is simply ridiculous. As other posters have commented, we are at the height of the pandemic right now, so Duran brilliantly thinks now is the ideal time to go back? I want my kids back in school, but not now and not before teachers receive vaccinations. All APS would have to do is wait a bit longer, but nooooo.
then keep your kids with DL..simple.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This parent is not pissed. I would like for the teachers to be vaccinated, they are front line to me.
this has nothing to do with vaccinations. they are required to report to work before vaccinations come out. Duran has no say on when they are getting the vaccine
Exactly. There is ZERO mentions of teachers getting vaccinated in that email before having to report to work.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This parent is not pissed. I would like for the teachers to be vaccinated, they are front line to me.
this has nothing to do with vaccinations. they are required to report to work before vaccinations come out. Duran has no say on when they are getting the vaccine
So far it sounds as if they are required to teach from the classroom, without students present. Doesn't sound so unreasonable to me.
but why? what is the point of making them come in to do exactly what they've been doing for the last 4 months, just in masks and around other adults? they could wait a few more weeks and be vaccinated and have them in the room with kids
Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I think this plan is simply ridiculous. As other posters have commented, we are at the height of the pandemic right now, so Duran brilliantly thinks now is the ideal time to go back? I want my kids back in school, but not now and not before teachers receive vaccinations. All APS would have to do is wait a bit longer, but nooooo.