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Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the issue? You're not getting anything done? You're in physical discomfort from holding him?

OP here. Both. I can't get anything done and I'm always in pain at the end of the day.

Re getting things done I suggest throwing a little money at the problem. Your husband is a doctor. Take a little of that doctor money and make your life easier. Not joking. Re pain. Please try a carrier. Babies love to be all snuggly. It also sounds like maybe you need a break from the baby. A part time baby nurse can help you spend some time with the toddler and recharge. I mean this in earnest and without snark: throw some money at the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the issue? You're not getting anything done? You're in physical discomfort from holding him?

OP here. Both. I can't get anything done and I'm always in pain at the end of the day.

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Anonymous wrote:Mom of two here. OP, you have unrealistic expectations of your newborn. It’s developmentally inappropriate to expect your newborn baby to nap train and be on a great nap schedule. It’s also developmentally inappropriate to sleep train an 8 week old. With my first I was up at night every 2 hours at this age with reflux and colic. The fact that you are dismissing that you get night sleep is ridiculous - nighttime sleep is huge at this age. Your baby is doing great but I’m troubled that you seem annoyed by your baby’s lack of adherence to your lifestyle/need for a routine and your dogged insistence that you only want people to support your poor choice. A desire to allow an 8 week old to scream with justification from an “expert” will alleviate you of what - guilt? Responsibility? Your lack of empathy is really concerning. All of us are telling you that it’s highly cruel to do what you are suggesting. Have you been evaluated for a postpartum mood disorder? Postpartum rage is a thing. And I get it. It’s really hard. But you have to have realistic expectations. And everything you’re saying about your baby is really normal and common for this age. You are not uniquely afflicted and there’s nothing wrong with your baby. And the other poster is right - sleep deprivation comes with the job description of being a parent. There are certainly things you can do, but this is just the first step in a long journey that will also involve nighttime illnesses, nightmares, behavior challenges, and more. Parenting is 24 hours a day—and unless you have help, very few breaks.

OP here. I’m aware of this. I have an older son who is 3. He was an easy baby and never went through this. I held him for naps sometimes but he happily slept in his crib. We had also had a sitter. I really can’t spend all day with my youngest because my 3 year old needs my attention too.

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Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the issue? You're not getting anything done? You're in physical discomfort from holding him?

OP here. Both. I can't get anything done and I'm always in pain at the end of the day.

Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the issue? You're not getting anything done? You're in physical discomfort from holding him?

Anonymous wrote:Mom of two here. OP, you have unrealistic expectations of your newborn. It’s developmentally inappropriate to expect your newborn baby to nap train and be on a great nap schedule. It’s also developmentally inappropriate to sleep train an 8 week old. With my first I was up at night every 2 hours at this age with reflux and colic. The fact that you are dismissing that you get night sleep is ridiculous - nighttime sleep is huge at this age. Your baby is doing great but I’m troubled that you seem annoyed by your baby’s lack of adherence to your lifestyle/need for a routine and your dogged insistence that you only want people to support your poor choice. A desire to allow an 8 week old to scream with justification from an “expert” will alleviate you of what - guilt? Responsibility? Your lack of empathy is really concerning. All of us are telling you that it’s highly cruel to do what you are suggesting. Have you been evaluated for a postpartum mood disorder? Postpartum rage is a thing. And I get it. It’s really hard. But you have to have realistic expectations. And everything you’re saying about your baby is really normal and common for this age. You are not uniquely afflicted and there’s nothing wrong with your baby. And the other poster is right - sleep deprivation comes with the job description of being a parent. There are certainly things you can do, but this is just the first step in a long journey that will also involve nighttime illnesses, nightmares, behavior challenges, and more. Parenting is 24 hours a day—and unless you have help, very few breaks.

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Anonymous wrote:We did sleep training at 8weeks with the Pediatrician's blessings. DC was gaining weight steadily, and passed that x lbs mark (can't remember what it was). We also put DC on a nap/feeding schedule, and it was like night/day.

I would highly advise a schedule and keeping to it as much as possible.

You probably sleep trained for nights. Naps are a whole different story and a different part of the brain. You CANNOT nap train an eight month old. It cannot be done. It is abusive (and this is from someone who sleep trains full CIO at four months on the dot).

OP you sons wake times are too short. A two month old can stay up for more than 60 minutes. He's probably waking up because he's not tired enough.

PLEASE PLEASE for the love of god try some of these other methods first. Hire a doula. Drive around. Hire a sleep consultant. Do not resort to Ferber.

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Anonymous wrote:We did sleep training at 8weeks with the Pediatrician's blessings. DC was gaining weight steadily, and passed that x lbs mark (can't remember what it was). We also put DC on a nap/feeding schedule, and it was like night/day.

I would highly advise a schedule and keeping to it as much as possible.

You probably sleep trained for nights. Naps are a whole different story and a different part of the brain. You CANNOT nap train an eight month old. It cannot be done. It is abusive (and this is from someone who sleep trains full CIO at four months on the dot).

OP you sons wake times are too short. A two month old can stay up for more than 60 minutes. He's probably waking up because he's not tired enough.

PLEASE PLEASE for the love of god try some of these other methods first. Hire a doula. Drive around. Hire a sleep consultant. Do not resort to Ferber.

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Anonymous wrote:We did sleep training at 8weeks with the Pediatrician's blessings. DC was gaining weight steadily, and passed that x lbs mark (can't remember what it was). We also put DC on a nap/feeding schedule, and it was like night/day.

I would highly advise a schedule and keeping to it as much as possible.

OP here. Can you give me an example of a schedule? He is isn't on one yet. He eats every 3 hours and goes down for naps every 60 minutes but that's it. He is gaining weight.

It sounds like he is on a schedule! Omg OP you are expecting too much of your fresh babe. Please get some mom friends, some perspective, and some grace for yourself and most importantly your baby.

OP here. All my mom friends are telling me to sleep train. They did and they said it was the best decision. My best friend sleep trained at this age.

He is on a routine but times are different everyday.

You need to go on Amazon and order the Contented Little Baby Book. The schedules change week by week based on age. About 80 percent of babies will fall into this schedule pretty naturally once you introduce it. It has been 19 years, but the naps were not every 60 minutes even at a young age as I recall.

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Anonymous wrote:Op my child was a lot like yours
I am the one who did the contented little baby book.

I followed the schedule there and put my child down for naps at the suggested times. It he cried through his nap so be it
I took the opportunity to take a shower and get dressed, etc. That didn't last long -- he learned to appreciate nap time quickly. He ate well and slept great on the schedule.

He is a happy, healthy strapping young man now.

OP here. How old was your baby when you did this? The other methods I'm looking at are Ferber and BabyWise.

Are you joking with Babywise? Babywise was "originally published in 1990 as ‘Preparation for Parenting: Bringing God’s Order to Your Baby’s Day and Restful Sleep to Your Baby’s Night’, (Christian edition written by Gary and Anne Marie Ezzo), the book was rebranded in 1993. It became known as ‘On Becoming Babywise’ and Robert Bucknam MD replaced Anne Marie Ezzo as co-author." There is nothing in the original print nor the re-branding print that has biological and/or anthropological basis.

"It takes several months for a newborn baby to begin establishing a pattern in their sleep cycles. Even then, regular disruption is inevitable, as rapid neurological and physical development in the first years interrupts newly-established patterns. In fact, one study investigating infant sleep duration found that 27% of babies had not regularly slept from 10pm to 6am by the age of 1 year.

Yet, Babywise claims: “… healthy, full-term babies are born with the capacity to achieve 7-8 hours of continuous night time sleep between seven and ten weeks of age, and 10-12 hours of sleep by twelve weeks of age.”

This is like reading the blanket training book for discipline strategies.