Anonymous
11/27/2020 07:59
Subject: High school magnet test
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please remember that while they are name and home school blind, they DO look at whether kids are in ESOL and if they have reduced price lunches - that tells them a great deal about the kids.
Also whether 504 or IEP
correct
How do you know this?
What impact does a 504 or IEP have?
It is listed on the FAQ under data considered for admission to criteria based programs. However, it is not clear what impact it has on an individual application. My guess is that MCPS gives additional weight to ESL, FARM and IEP/504 applicants or the base scores on assessments such as Cogat and MAP can be lower, e.g., 90th percentile vs 99th percentile, for admittance.
They like bi-lingual students and students who are from lower income families. That's all. There are no score adjustments for these kids, please don't insult their abilities.
I wouldn't say like is accurate., It's more like they try to give them a fair shot.
Look at the numbers. "Like" or "show a preference for" is most accurate.
NP: what numbers? Please provide a link. If you are referring to FARM kids, the numbers I've seen aren't high enough to support "show a preference for". Also, what do you mean by bilingual? Do you mean ESL kids?
Ditto on the 504/IEP = low numbers. To whomever suggested in an earlier post that it might count against the students, that's as illegal as counting race against a student.
No one suggested it was the case - they were speculating about not knowing what the criteria was used for. Instead of jumping up and down like an asshole and taking offense try reading things more closely.
Anonymous
11/27/2020 07:58
Subject: High school magnet test
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please remember that while they are name and home school blind, they DO look at whether kids are in ESOL and if they have reduced price lunches - that tells them a great deal about the kids.
Also whether 504 or IEP
correct
How do you know this?
What impact does a 504 or IEP have?
It is listed on the FAQ under data considered for admission to criteria based programs. However, it is not clear what impact it has on an individual application. My guess is that MCPS gives additional weight to ESL, FARM and IEP/504 applicants or the base scores on assessments such as Cogat and MAP can be lower, e.g., 90th percentile vs 99th percentile, for admittance.
They like bi-lingual students and students who are from lower income families. That's all. There are no score adjustments for these kids, please don't insult their abilities.
I wouldn't say like is accurate., It's more like they try to give them a fair shot.
Look at the numbers. "Like" or "show a preference for" is most accurate.
NP: what numbers? Please provide a link. If you are referring to FARM kids, the numbers I've seen aren't high enough to support "show a preference for". Also, what do you mean by bilingual? Do you mean ESL kids?
I am not talking about Farms. If you had read the thread we were talking about international kids. That doesn't mean Farms. If you tried reading the MCPS website you will see for yourself a requirement for being eligible to apply for the test-in program at RMIB is either 1 year of French/Chinese /Spanish or being BI-LINGUAL. Jesus wept lady.
Anonymous
11/27/2020 01:27
Subject: High school magnet test
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please remember that while they are name and home school blind, they DO look at whether kids are in ESOL and if they have reduced price lunches - that tells them a great deal about the kids.
Also whether 504 or IEP
correct
How do you know this?
What impact does a 504 or IEP have?
It is listed on the FAQ under data considered for admission to criteria based programs. However, it is not clear what impact it has on an individual application. My guess is that MCPS gives additional weight to ESL, FARM and IEP/504 applicants or the base scores on assessments such as Cogat and MAP can be lower, e.g., 90th percentile vs 99th percentile, for admittance.
They like bi-lingual students and students who are from lower income families. That's all. There are no score adjustments for these kids, please don't insult their abilities.
I wouldn't say like is accurate., It's more like they try to give them a fair shot.
Look at the numbers. "Like" or "show a preference for" is most accurate.
NP: what numbers? Please provide a link. If you are referring to FARM kids, the numbers I've seen aren't high enough to support "show a preference for". Also, what do you mean by bilingual? Do you mean ESL kids?
Ditto on the 504/IEP = low numbers. To whomever suggested in an earlier post that it might count against the students, that's as illegal as counting race against a student.
Anonymous
11/26/2020 21:36
Subject: High school magnet test
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please remember that while they are name and home school blind, they DO look at whether kids are in ESOL and if they have reduced price lunches - that tells them a great deal about the kids.
Also whether 504 or IEP
correct
How do you know this?
What impact does a 504 or IEP have?
It is listed on the FAQ under data considered for admission to criteria based programs. However, it is not clear what impact it has on an individual application. My guess is that MCPS gives additional weight to ESL, FARM and IEP/504 applicants or the base scores on assessments such as Cogat and MAP can be lower, e.g., 90th percentile vs 99th percentile, for admittance.
They like bi-lingual students and students who are from lower income families. That's all. There are no score adjustments for these kids, please don't insult their abilities.
I wouldn't say like is accurate., It's more like they try to give them a fair shot.
Look at the numbers. "Like" or "show a preference for" is most accurate.
NP: what numbers? Please provide a link. If you are referring to FARM kids, the numbers I've seen aren't high enough to support "show a preference for". Also, what do you mean by bilingual? Do you mean ESL kids?
Anonymous
11/26/2020 20:56
Subject: High school magnet test
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please remember that while they are name and home school blind, they DO look at whether kids are in ESOL and if they have reduced price lunches - that tells them a great deal about the kids.
Also whether 504 or IEP
correct
How do you know this?
What impact does a 504 or IEP have?
It is listed on the FAQ under data considered for admission to criteria based programs. However, it is not clear what impact it has on an individual application. My guess is that MCPS gives additional weight to ESL, FARM and IEP/504 applicants or the base scores on assessments such as Cogat and MAP can be lower, e.g., 90th percentile vs 99th percentile, for admittance.
They like bi-lingual students and students who are from lower income families. That's all. There are no score adjustments for these kids, please don't insult their abilities.
I wouldn't say like is accurate., It's more like they try to give them a fair shot.
Look at the numbers. "Like" or "show a preference for" is most accurate.
Anonymous
11/26/2020 10:25
Subject: High school magnet test
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please remember that while they are name and home school blind, they DO look at whether kids are in ESOL and if they have reduced price lunches - that tells them a great deal about the kids.
Also whether 504 or IEP
correct
How do you know this?
What impact does a 504 or IEP have?
It is listed on the FAQ under data considered for admission to criteria based programs. However, it is not clear what impact it has on an individual application. My guess is that MCPS gives additional weight to ESL, FARM and IEP/504 applicants or the base scores on assessments such as Cogat and MAP can be lower, e.g., 90th percentile vs 99th percentile, for admittance.
They like bi-lingual students and students who are from lower income families. That's all. There are no score adjustments for these kids, please don't insult their abilities.
I wouldn't say like is accurate., It's more like they try to give them a fair shot.
Anonymous
11/26/2020 09:30
Subject: High school magnet test
Anonymous wrote:^^ or it shows grit in the case of a kid who despite having an IEP / 504 manages to achieve so much.
this is more likely -
+ 1 — yup, exactly the case
Anonymous
11/25/2020 14:51
Subject: High school magnet test
^^ or it shows grit in the case of a kid who despite having an IEP / 504 manages to achieve so much.
this is more likely -
this is more likely -
Anonymous
11/25/2020 14:50
Subject: High school magnet test
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please remember that while they are name and home school blind, they DO look at whether kids are in ESOL and if they have reduced price lunches - that tells them a great deal about the kids.
Also whether 504 or IEP
correct
How do you know this?
What impact does a 504 or IEP have?
It is listed on the FAQ under data considered for admission to criteria based programs. However, it is not clear what impact it has on an individual application. My guess is that MCPS gives additional weight to ESL, FARM and IEP/504 applicants or the base scores on assessments such as Cogat and MAP can be lower, e.g., 90th percentile vs 99th percentile, for admittance.
They like bi-lingual students and students who are from lower income families. That's all. There are no score adjustments for these kids, please don't insult their abilities.
No insult intended. Why do you think MCPS states that 504/IEP status is considered for criteria based programs along with FARM and/or ESOL status? They wouldn't mention it in the FAQ is it didn't factor into their admission decisions.
This is an interesting question and one I wish I had a definitive answer for. I can only think it is possible that a kid with an IEP/504 is getting the same grades as the super star students but is given more time - and maybe it actually works against them to have an IEP/504 in this case? Who knows.
No, I think they're given extra consideration for dealing with challenges and showing persistence, might be admitted with slightly lower scores.
Anonymous
11/25/2020 14:48
Subject: High school magnet test
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please remember that while they are name and home school blind, they DO look at whether kids are in ESOL and if they have reduced price lunches - that tells them a great deal about the kids.
Also whether 504 or IEP
correct
How do you know this?
What impact does a 504 or IEP have?
It is listed on the FAQ under data considered for admission to criteria based programs. However, it is not clear what impact it has on an individual application. My guess is that MCPS gives additional weight to ESL, FARM and IEP/504 applicants or the base scores on assessments such as Cogat and MAP can be lower, e.g., 90th percentile vs 99th percentile, for admittance.
They like bi-lingual students and students who are from lower income families. That's all. There are no score adjustments for these kids, please don't insult their abilities.
No insult intended. Why do you think MCPS states that 504/IEP status is considered for criteria based programs along with FARM and/or ESOL status? They wouldn't mention it in the FAQ is it didn't factor into their admission decisions.
This is an interesting question and one I wish I had a definitive answer for. I can only think it is possible that a kid with an IEP/504 is getting the same grades as the super star students but is given more time - and maybe it actually works against them to have an IEP/504 in this case? Who knows.
Anonymous
11/25/2020 14:47
Subject: High school magnet test
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please remember that while they are name and home school blind, they DO look at whether kids are in ESOL and if they have reduced price lunches - that tells them a great deal about the kids.
Also whether 504 or IEP
correct
How do you know this?
What impact does a 504 or IEP have?
It is listed on the FAQ under data considered for admission to criteria based programs. However, it is not clear what impact it has on an individual application. My guess is that MCPS gives additional weight to ESL, FARM and IEP/504 applicants or the base scores on assessments such as Cogat and MAP can be lower, e.g., 90th percentile vs 99th percentile, for admittance.
This is an interesting question and one I wish I had a definitive answer for. I can only think it is possible that a kid with an IEP/504 is getting the same grades as the super star students but is given more time - and maybe it actually works against them to have an IEP/504 in this case? Who knows.
They like bi-lingual students and students who are from lower income families. That's all. There are no score adjustments for these kids, please don't insult their abilities.
No insult intended. Why do you think MCPS states that 504/IEP status is considered for criteria based programs along with FARM and/or ESOL status? They wouldn't mention it in the FAQ is it didn't factor into their admission decisions.
Anonymous
11/24/2020 20:54
Subject: High school magnet test
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please remember that while they are name and home school blind, they DO look at whether kids are in ESOL and if they have reduced price lunches - that tells them a great deal about the kids.
Also whether 504 or IEP
correct
How do you know this?
What impact does a 504 or IEP have?
It is listed on the FAQ under data considered for admission to criteria based programs. However, it is not clear what impact it has on an individual application. My guess is that MCPS gives additional weight to ESL, FARM and IEP/504 applicants or the base scores on assessments such as Cogat and MAP can be lower, e.g., 90th percentile vs 99th percentile, for admittance.
They like bi-lingual students and students who are from lower income families. That's all. There are no score adjustments for these kids, please don't insult their abilities.
No insult intended. Why do you think MCPS states that 504/IEP status is considered for criteria based programs along with FARM and/or ESOL status? They wouldn't mention it in the FAQ is it didn't factor into their admission decisions.
Anonymous
11/24/2020 20:41
Subject: High school magnet test
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please remember that while they are name and home school blind, they DO look at whether kids are in ESOL and if they have reduced price lunches - that tells them a great deal about the kids.
Also whether 504 or IEP
correct
How do you know this?
What impact does a 504 or IEP have?
It is listed on the FAQ under data considered for admission to criteria based programs. However, it is not clear what impact it has on an individual application. My guess is that MCPS gives additional weight to ESL, FARM and IEP/504 applicants or the base scores on assessments such as Cogat and MAP can be lower, e.g., 90th percentile vs 99th percentile, for admittance.
They like bi-lingual students and students who are from lower income families. That's all. There are no score adjustments for these kids, please don't insult their abilities.
Anonymous
11/24/2020 18:50
Subject: High school magnet test
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please remember that while they are name and home school blind, they DO look at whether kids are in ESOL and if they have reduced price lunches - that tells them a great deal about the kids.
Also whether 504 or IEP
correct
How do you know this?
What impact does a 504 or IEP have?
It is listed on the FAQ under data considered for admission to criteria based programs. However, it is not clear what impact it has on an individual application. My guess is that MCPS gives additional weight to ESL, FARM and IEP/504 applicants or the base scores on assessments such as Cogat and MAP can be lower, e.g., 90th percentile vs 99th percentile, for admittance.
Anonymous
11/24/2020 18:17
Subject: High school magnet test
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please remember that while they are name and home school blind, they DO look at whether kids are in ESOL and if they have reduced price lunches - that tells them a great deal about the kids.
Also whether 504 or IEP
correct
How do you know this?
What impact does a 504 or IEP have?