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Anonymous wrote:Columbia's school of engineering is not Ivy League

Columbia SEAS and Columbia College make up Columbia University in the City of New York, an Ivy League university. Obviously, you didn't go to Columbia.

I'm a 1990 graduate of Columbia SEAS. I consider Columbia College as Ivy League, but not SEAS. SEAS is a separate school with separate admissions.

I should have added that I don't consider Columbia's School of General Studies or Barnard to be Ivy League either.

Correct. What then constitutes "Columbia University" that belongs to the Ivy League? Columbia College is one. But then, Columbia College alone is not "Columbia University", if you know the meaning of "University." The meaning of "university" consists of more than "college. There is something else that goes with Columbia College to create Columbia University - Columbia SEAS.

Columbia University has three undergrad schools (four if you count Barnard): Columbia College, SEAS, and General Studies. I graduated SEAS. To me, Columbia College is Ivy League, but not SEAS and definitely not General Studies. Glad to learn that I am wrong. My life will be forever changed. Thanks.

"The Ivy League... refer to the eight schools... Brown University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, Harvard University, the University of Pennsylvania, Princeton University, and Yale University." - Wiki

Columbia College is not ivy - Columbia University is.

You've got me so confused now. If Columbia College "is not Ivy" as you have asserted above, then Columbia SEAS is not Ivy (same for Columbia General Studies). So, I was right all along -- Columbia SEAS is not ivy. I can go back to living my normal life now. Thanks again!

NP: now I'm confused. No one said Columbia College isn't part of the Ivy League. I think you're more confused than you think and you're misinterpreting what the other poster said.

Clare College is a college at Cambridge University. No one would say a graduate of Clare College didn't graduate from Cambridge.

Columbia College is part of Columbia University. So is Columbia SEAS. These two schools refer to Columbia University (and not Barnard or Columbia General College.)

From Wiki:

"Columbia University received nearly 40,100 applications for the class of 2024 (entering 2020) and a total of around 2,450 were admitted to the two schools for an overall acceptance rate of 6.1%..."

The Columbia School of General Studies IS one of the undergraduate schools that forms a part of Columbia University. See https://www.columbia.edu (scroll down to bottom of the page to see the list of schools). I am sorry to all the graduates of the Columbia School of General Studies, but I never considered you to be "Ivy League." Indeed, since I did not got to Columbia College, I did not consider my self "Ivy League." Apparently, some people on here are aghast that I did not consider myself Ivy League. "Ivy League has connotations of ... social elitism." (https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Ivy_League). I guess I need to start considering myself as a social elite.

By the way, I was not misinterpreting the PP. I was quoting the PP sardonically because the PP said, and I QUOTE, "College Sports Are Affirmative Action for Rich White Students
Athletes are often held to a lower standard by admissions officers, and in the Ivy League, 65 percent of players are white. Columbia College is not ivy."

Columbia school of general studies as ivy league is like saying Harvard adult extension studies is ivy league. Or Harvard 2-week certificate for GS-12 feds through the Kennedy school of gov't is ivy league. I guess if you want to be technical, each is one of the programs that forms a part of Harvard. I am sorry to all the graduates of the Harvard adult extension and Harvard 2-week cert. programs for GS-12s, but I never considered you to be "Ivy League."

To get back to this thread, Cornell engineering is NOT Cornell hotel. Each school in Cornell has its own admit rate. I believe Cornell engineering is as low as it gets.

Anonymous wrote:Engineering is brutal. Why not pick something easier?

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Anonymous wrote:Columbia's school of engineering is not Ivy League

Columbia SEAS and Columbia College make up Columbia University in the City of New York, an Ivy League university. Obviously, you didn't go to Columbia.

I'm a 1990 graduate of Columbia SEAS. I consider Columbia College as Ivy League, but not SEAS. SEAS is a separate school with separate admissions.

I should have added that I don't consider Columbia's School of General Studies or Barnard to be Ivy League either.

Correct. What then constitutes "Columbia University" that belongs to the Ivy League? Columbia College is one. But then, Columbia College alone is not "Columbia University", if you know the meaning of "University." The meaning of "university" consists of more than "college. There is something else that goes with Columbia College to create Columbia University - Columbia SEAS.

Columbia University has three undergrad schools (four if you count Barnard): Columbia College, SEAS, and General Studies. I graduated SEAS. To me, Columbia College is Ivy League, but not SEAS and definitely not General Studies. Glad to learn that I am wrong. My life will be forever changed. Thanks.

"The Ivy League... refer to the eight schools... Brown University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, Harvard University, the University of Pennsylvania, Princeton University, and Yale University." - Wiki

Columbia College is not ivy - Columbia University is.

You've got me so confused now. If Columbia College "is not Ivy" as you have asserted above, then Columbia SEAS is not Ivy (same for Columbia General Studies). So, I was right all along -- Columbia SEAS is not ivy. I can go back to living my normal life now. Thanks again!

NP: now I'm confused. No one said Columbia College isn't part of the Ivy League. I think you're more confused than you think and you're misinterpreting what the other poster said.

Clare College is a college at Cambridge University. No one would say a graduate of Clare College didn't graduate from Cambridge.

Columbia College is part of Columbia University. So is Columbia SEAS. These two schools refer to Columbia University (and not Barnard or Columbia General College.)

From Wiki:

"Columbia University received nearly 40,100 applications for the class of 2024 (entering 2020) and a total of around 2,450 were admitted to the two schools for an overall acceptance rate of 6.1%..."

The Columbia School of General Studies IS one of the undergraduate schools that forms a part of Columbia University. See https://www.columbia.edu (scroll down to bottom of the page to see the list of schools). I am sorry to all the graduates of the Columbia School of General Studies, but I never considered you to be "Ivy League." Indeed, since I did not got to Columbia College, I did not consider my self "Ivy League." Apparently, some people on here are aghast that I did not consider myself Ivy League. "Ivy League has connotations of ... social elitism." (https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Ivy_League). I guess I need to start considering myself as a social elite.

By the way, I was not misinterpreting the PP. I was quoting the PP sardonically because the PP said, and I QUOTE, "College Sports Are Affirmative Action for Rich White Students
Athletes are often held to a lower standard by admissions officers, and in the Ivy League, 65 percent of players are white. Columbia College is not ivy."

Columbia school of general studies as ivy league is like saying Harvard adult extension studies is ivy league. Or Harvard 2-week certificate for GS-12 feds through the Kennedy school of gov't is ivy league. I guess if you want to be technical, each is one of the programs that forms a part of Harvard. I am sorry to all the graduates of the Harvard adult extension and Harvard 2-week cert. programs for GS-12s, but I never considered you to be "Ivy League."

Anonymous wrote:So Cornell is the best school for engineering among the Ivies, but it's not good enough for your son who must attend an Ivy.

I'm speechless.

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Anonymous wrote:Columbia's school of engineering is not Ivy League

Columbia SEAS and Columbia College make up Columbia University in the City of New York, an Ivy League university. Obviously, you didn't go to Columbia.

I'm a 1990 graduate of Columbia SEAS. I consider Columbia College as Ivy League, but not SEAS. SEAS is a separate school with separate admissions.

I should have added that I don't consider Columbia's School of General Studies or Barnard to be Ivy League either.

Correct. What then constitutes "Columbia University" that belongs to the Ivy League? Columbia College is one. But then, Columbia College alone is not "Columbia University", if you know the meaning of "University." The meaning of "university" consists of more than "college. There is something else that goes with Columbia College to create Columbia University - Columbia SEAS.

Columbia University has three undergrad schools (four if you count Barnard): Columbia College, SEAS, and General Studies. I graduated SEAS. To me, Columbia College is Ivy League, but not SEAS and definitely not General Studies. Glad to learn that I am wrong. My life will be forever changed. Thanks.

"The Ivy League... refer to the eight schools... Brown University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, Harvard University, the University of Pennsylvania, Princeton University, and Yale University." - Wiki

Columbia College is not ivy - Columbia University is.

You've got me so confused now. If Columbia College "is not Ivy" as you have asserted above, then Columbia SEAS is not Ivy (same for Columbia General Studies). So, I was right all along -- Columbia SEAS is not ivy. I can go back to living my normal life now. Thanks again!

NP: now I'm confused. No one said Columbia College isn't part of the Ivy League. I think you're more confused than you think and you're misinterpreting what the other poster said.

Clare College is a college at Cambridge University. No one would say a graduate of Clare College didn't graduate from Cambridge.

Columbia College is part of Columbia University. So is Columbia SEAS. These two schools refer to Columbia University (and not Barnard or Columbia General College.)

From Wiki:

"Columbia University received nearly 40,100 applications for the class of 2024 (entering 2020) and a total of around 2,450 were admitted to the two schools for an overall acceptance rate of 6.1%..."

The Columbia School of General Studies IS one of the undergraduate schools that forms a part of Columbia University. See https://www.columbia.edu (scroll down to bottom of the page to see the list of schools). I am sorry to all the graduates of the Columbia School of General Studies, but I never considered you to be "Ivy League." Indeed, since I did not got to Columbia College, I did not consider my self "Ivy League." Apparently, some people on here are aghast that I did not consider myself Ivy League. "Ivy League has connotations of ... social elitism." (https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Ivy_League). I guess I need to start considering myself as a social elite.

By the way, I was not misinterpreting the PP. I was quoting the PP sardonically because the PP said, and I QUOTE, "College Sports Are Affirmative Action for Rich White Students
Athletes are often held to a lower standard by admissions officers, and in the Ivy League, 65 percent of players are white. Columbia College is not ivy."

Columbia school of general studies as ivy league is like saying Harvard adult extension studies is ivy league. Or Harvard 2-week certificate for GS-12 feds through the Kennedy school of gov't is ivy league. I guess if you want to be technical, each is one of the programs that forms a part of Harvard. I am sorry to all the graduates of the Harvard adult extension and Harvard 2-week cert. programs for GS-12s, but I never considered you to be "Ivy League."

To get back to this thread, Cornell engineering is NOT Cornell hotel. Each school in Cornell has its own admit rate. I believe Cornell engineering is as low as it gets.

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Anonymous wrote:He needs to go to MIT or Caltech or Stanford. Maybe Carnie Mellon or Harvey Mudd.

Ivy engineers go to consulting, banking, or become patent lawyers. A few go to Silicon Valley or work at NASA or such, but it’s a more theoretical/fundamental approach without nearly enough applied science to be a high caliber engineer.

— Princeton Engineer.

I am the SEAS graduate who just learned that I'm an Ivy League grad and the previous poster is generally correct. The on-campus recruiters that I recall most were consulting firms (I remember interviewing for Bain), banking, and engineering-management programs (e.g., GE's Edison Engineering program), and I know two fellow SEAS alums that are now Patent Attorneys. But I also now a few people who went on to get masters or PhDs in engineering and are working in industry (one of my classmates is doing very well at Google).

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Anonymous wrote:Columbia's school of engineering is not Ivy League

Columbia SEAS and Columbia College make up Columbia University in the City of New York, an Ivy League university. Obviously, you didn't go to Columbia.

I'm a 1990 graduate of Columbia SEAS. I consider Columbia College as Ivy League, but not SEAS. SEAS is a separate school with separate admissions.

I should have added that I don't consider Columbia's School of General Studies or Barnard to be Ivy League either.

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Anonymous wrote:Columbia's school of engineering is not Ivy League

Columbia SEAS and Columbia College make up Columbia University in the City of New York, an Ivy League university. Obviously, you didn't go to Columbia.

I'm a 1990 graduate of Columbia SEAS. I consider Columbia College as Ivy League, but not SEAS. SEAS is a separate school with separate admissions.

I should have added that I don't consider Columbia's School of General Studies or Barnard to be Ivy League either.

Correct. What then constitutes "Columbia University" that belongs to the Ivy League? Columbia College is one. But then, Columbia College alone is not "Columbia University", if you know the meaning of "University." The meaning of "university" consists of more than "college. There is something else that goes with Columbia College to create Columbia University - Columbia SEAS.

Why bother responding to the deranged poster? He or she obviously did not go to SEAS

Columbia University has three undergrad schools (four if you count Barnard): Columbia College, SEAS, and General Studies. I graduated SEAS. To me, Columbia College is Ivy League, but not SEAS and definitely not General Studies. Glad to learn that I am wrong. My life will be forever changed. Thanks.

"The Ivy League... refer to the eight schools... Brown University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, Harvard University, the University of Pennsylvania, Princeton University, and Yale University." - Wiki

Columbia College is not ivy - Columbia University is.

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Anonymous wrote:Columbia's school of engineering is not Ivy League

According to Fu?

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Anonymous wrote:Columbia's school of engineering is not Ivy League

Columbia SEAS and Columbia College make up Columbia University in the City of New York, an Ivy League university. Obviously, you didn't go to Columbia.

I'm a 1990 graduate of Columbia SEAS. I consider Columbia College as Ivy League, but not SEAS. SEAS is a separate school with separate admissions.

I should have added that I don't consider Columbia's School of General Studies or Barnard to be Ivy League either.

Correct. What then constitutes "Columbia University" that belongs to the Ivy League? Columbia College is one. But then, Columbia College alone is not "Columbia University", if you know the meaning of "University." The meaning of "university" consists of more than "college. There is something else that goes with Columbia College to create Columbia University - Columbia SEAS.

Columbia University has three undergrad schools (four if you count Barnard): Columbia College, SEAS, and General Studies. I graduated SEAS. To me, Columbia College is Ivy League, but not SEAS and definitely not General Studies. Glad to learn that I am wrong. My life will be forever changed. Thanks.

"The Ivy League... refer to the eight schools... Brown University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, Harvard University, the University of Pennsylvania, Princeton University, and Yale University." - Wiki

Columbia College is not ivy - Columbia University is.

You've got me so confused now. If Columbia College "is not Ivy" as you have asserted above, then Columbia SEAS is not Ivy (same for Columbia General Studies). So, I was right all along -- Columbia SEAS is not ivy. I can go back to living my normal life now. Thanks again!

NP: now I'm confused. No one said Columbia College isn't part of the Ivy League. I think you're more confused than you think and you're misinterpreting what the other poster said.

Clare College is a college at Cambridge University. No one would say a graduate of Clare College didn't graduate from Cambridge.

Columbia College is part of Columbia University. So is Columbia SEAS. These two schools refer to Columbia University (and not Barnard or Columbia General College.)

From Wiki:

"Columbia University received nearly 40,100 applications for the class of 2024 (entering 2020) and a total of around 2,450 were admitted to the two schools for an overall acceptance rate of 6.1%..."

The Columbia School of General Studies IS one of the undergraduate schools that forms a part of Columbia University. See https://www.columbia.edu (scroll down to bottom of the page to see the list of schools). I am sorry to all the graduates of the Columbia School of General Studies, but I never considered you to be "Ivy League." Indeed, since I did not got to Columbia College, I did not consider my self "Ivy League." Apparently, some people on here are aghast that I did not consider myself Ivy League. "Ivy League has connotations of ... social elitism." (https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Ivy_League). I guess I need to start considering myself as a social elite.

By the way, I was not misinterpreting the PP. I was quoting the PP sardonically because the PP said, and I QUOTE, "Columbia College is not ivy."

I hope you didn't hurt yourself making this reach. You can be wrong, and that's OK.

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Anonymous wrote:Columbia's school of engineering is not Ivy League

Columbia SEAS and Columbia College make up Columbia University in the City of New York, an Ivy League university. Obviously, you didn't go to Columbia.

I'm a 1990 graduate of Columbia SEAS. I consider Columbia College as Ivy League, but not SEAS. SEAS is a separate school with separate admissions.

I should have added that I don't consider Columbia's School of General Studies or Barnard to be Ivy League either.

Correct. What then constitutes "Columbia University" that belongs to the Ivy League? Columbia College is one. But then, Columbia College alone is not "Columbia University", if you know the meaning of "University." The meaning of "university" consists of more than "college. There is something else that goes with Columbia College to create Columbia University - Columbia SEAS.

Columbia University has three undergrad schools (four if you count Barnard): Columbia College, SEAS, and General Studies. I graduated SEAS. To me, Columbia College is Ivy League, but not SEAS and definitely not General Studies. Glad to learn that I am wrong. My life will be forever changed. Thanks.

"The Ivy League... refer to the eight schools... Brown University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, Harvard University, the University of Pennsylvania, Princeton University, and Yale University." - Wiki

Columbia College is not ivy - Columbia University is.

You've got me so confused now. If Columbia College "is not Ivy" as you have asserted above, then Columbia SEAS is not Ivy (same for Columbia General Studies). So, I was right all along -- Columbia SEAS is not ivy. I can go back to living my normal life now. Thanks again!

NP: now I'm confused. No one said Columbia College isn't part of the Ivy League. I think you're more confused than you think and you're misinterpreting what the other poster said.

Clare College is a college at Cambridge University. No one would say a graduate of Clare College didn't graduate from Cambridge.

Columbia College is part of Columbia University. So is Columbia SEAS. These two schools refer to Columbia University (and not Barnard or Columbia General College.)

From Wiki:

"Columbia University received nearly 40,100 applications for the class of 2024 (entering 2020) and a total of around 2,450 were admitted to the two schools for an overall acceptance rate of 6.1%..."

The Columbia School of General Studies IS one of the undergraduate schools that forms a part of Columbia University. See https://www.columbia.edu (scroll down to bottom of the page to see the list of schools). I am sorry to all the graduates of the Columbia School of General Studies, but I never considered you to be "Ivy League." Indeed, since I did not got to Columbia College, I did not consider my self "Ivy League." Apparently, some people on here are aghast that I did not consider myself Ivy League. "Ivy League has connotations of ... social elitism." (https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Ivy_League). I guess I need to start considering myself as a social elite.

By the way, I was not misinterpreting the PP. I was quoting the PP sardonically because the PP said, and I QUOTE, "College Sports Are Affirmative Action for Rich White Students
Athletes are often held to a lower standard by admissions officers, and in the Ivy League, 65 percent of players are white. Columbia College is not ivy."