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Anonymous wrote:OP — I’d be more willing to listen if you weren’t so over the top. Tone it down and try again, and you might convince more people.

OK then let me calm down and try again. This is why MoCo is failing:

- Council supports crony capitalism for developer donors
- Executive doesn’t appear to support private sector at all
- Council supports meaningless social justice initiatives
- Executive has bombastic history of leftist rhetoric and associations
- Executive favors insider supporters over regular constituents
- Like other leftist regimes, when you tax and “social justice” your tax base to oblivion, they leave.

Got it?

Is this like the anarchy in Portland, or New York City emptying out? And then you go to Portland and almost all of the streets are as orderly as ever, or you go to New York City and there are still millions of people living there?

Montgomery County isn't paradise on earth, to be sure, but the only people who believe Montgomery County is failing are people who wish it were still 1975 in Montgomery County. Or maybe 1955.

Not true. Wasn’t even born then. I’ll take MoCo circa 2000, thank you very much. I did not worry about walking in my neighborhood alone at night. The schools were not overcrowded. Teachers had time to focus on even the kids who will be “fine.” Taxes were lower. Great bike trail through Bethesda. Shall I go on?

I would take MoCo 2010 over what we have today. I've never seen such rapid decline.

Me too. Montgomery County and MCPS have definitely declined over the past 10-12 years. We have had kids in the school system and have seen the changes from the oldest to the youngest. Have lived in MoCo for 15 years and it is definitely not as great a place to raise a family as it used to be, unfortunately.

Well the majority of real Montgomery county residents disagree with you. Over 85% said Montgomery county is a great place to raise a family and over 82% said MCPS is great.

Not according to last year’s community survey.

“Ratings related to the public school system in Montgomery County tended to be more mixed. Thinking about County focus areas and whether they have gotten better, worse, or stayed the same in the past two years, about one-third of respondents rated public schools (K-12) as somewhat worse or much worse than two years ago, and another 4 in 10 felt they had stayed about the same. When asked to rate various aspects of Montgomery County K-12 public schools, respondents gave the most positive ratings to the diversity of race/ethnicity of the student body (80% excellent or good), the accessibility of teachers and administrators (73%), overall quality of education (73%), and school facilities (67%); they were least likely to give positive marks to class size (46%), teacher/student ratio (46%) or the food/cafeterias (38%).“


https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OPI/Resources/Files/2022/2021-NCS-Report.pdf#page=8

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Anonymous wrote:OP — I’d be more willing to listen if you weren’t so over the top. Tone it down and try again, and you might convince more people.

OK then let me calm down and try again. This is why MoCo is failing:

- Council supports crony capitalism for developer donors
- Executive doesn’t appear to support private sector at all
- Council supports meaningless social justice initiatives
- Executive has bombastic history of leftist rhetoric and associations
- Executive favors insider supporters over regular constituents
- Like other leftist regimes, when you tax and “social justice” your tax base to oblivion, they leave.

Got it?

Is this like the anarchy in Portland, or New York City emptying out? And then you go to Portland and almost all of the streets are as orderly as ever, or you go to New York City and there are still millions of people living there?

Montgomery County isn't paradise on earth, to be sure, but the only people who believe Montgomery County is failing are people who wish it were still 1975 in Montgomery County. Or maybe 1955.

Not true. Wasn’t even born then. I’ll take MoCo circa 2000, thank you very much. I did not worry about walking in my neighborhood alone at night. The schools were not overcrowded. Teachers had time to focus on even the kids who will be “fine.” Taxes were lower. Great bike trail through Bethesda. Shall I go on?

I would take MoCo 2010 over what we have today. I've never seen such rapid decline.

Me too. Montgomery County and MCPS have definitely declined over the past 10-12 years. We have had kids in the school system and have seen the changes from the oldest to the youngest. Have lived in MoCo for 15 years and it is definitely not as great a place to raise a family as it used to be, unfortunately.

Well the majority of real Montgomery county residents disagree with you. Over 85% said Montgomery county is a great place to raise a family and over 82% said MCPS is great.

"A representative sample of 565 people were surveyed"

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Anonymous wrote:Your post seems extreme.

I will admit I didn’t buy in MoCo because of the politics. It’s pretty obvious that it’s a leftist regime that doesn’t support what’s best for my family (well funded police force, strong public schools, low crime, reasonable taxes etc).

I feel bad for the people who bought in nicer neighborhoods and didn’t realize the local government is against pretty much everything they stand for. It will only get worse as these policies are implemented.

Anyone who is concerned should move now while they can.

I love my Bethesda neighborhood too much to move. After supporting Elrich last time, I think I will vote for Sullivan, though I have not voted for an R since the Governor’s race.

But who are you voting for in the primary? Vote Blair now and Sully in the general.

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Anonymous wrote:OP — I’d be more willing to listen if you weren’t so over the top. Tone it down and try again, and you might convince more people.

OK then let me calm down and try again. This is why MoCo is failing:

- Council supports crony capitalism for developer donors
- Executive doesn’t appear to support private sector at all
- Council supports meaningless social justice initiatives
- Executive has bombastic history of leftist rhetoric and associations
- Executive favors insider supporters over regular constituents
- Like other leftist regimes, when you tax and “social justice” your tax base to oblivion, they leave.

Got it?

Is this like the anarchy in Portland, or New York City emptying out? And then you go to Portland and almost all of the streets are as orderly as ever, or you go to New York City and there are still millions of people living there?

Montgomery County isn't paradise on earth, to be sure, but the only people who believe Montgomery County is failing are people who wish it were still 1975 in Montgomery County. Or maybe 1955.

Not true. Wasn’t even born then. I’ll take MoCo circa 2000, thank you very much. I did not worry about walking in my neighborhood alone at night. The schools were not overcrowded. Teachers had time to focus on even the kids who will be “fine.” Taxes were lower. Great bike trail through Bethesda. Shall I go on?

I would take MoCo 2010 over what we have today. I've never seen such rapid decline.

Me too. Montgomery County and MCPS have definitely declined over the past 10-12 years. We have had kids in the school system and have seen the changes from the oldest to the youngest. Have lived in MoCo for 15 years and it is definitely not as great a place to raise a family as it used to be, unfortunately.

Well the majority of real Montgomery county residents disagree with you. Over 85% said Montgomery county is a great place to raise a family and over 82% said MCPS is great.

Compared to what exactly?

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Anonymous wrote:OP — I’d be more willing to listen if you weren’t so over the top. Tone it down and try again, and you might convince more people.

OK then let me calm down and try again. This is why MoCo is failing:

- Council supports crony capitalism for developer donors
- Executive doesn’t appear to support private sector at all
- Council supports meaningless social justice initiatives
- Executive has bombastic history of leftist rhetoric and associations
- Executive favors insider supporters over regular constituents
- Like other leftist regimes, when you tax and “social justice” your tax base to oblivion, they leave.

Got it?

Is this like the anarchy in Portland, or New York City emptying out? And then you go to Portland and almost all of the streets are as orderly as ever, or you go to New York City and there are still millions of people living there?

Montgomery County isn't paradise on earth, to be sure, but the only people who believe Montgomery County is failing are people who wish it were still 1975 in Montgomery County. Or maybe 1955.

Not true. Wasn’t even born then. I’ll take MoCo circa 2000, thank you very much. I did not worry about walking in my neighborhood alone at night. The schools were not overcrowded. Teachers had time to focus on even the kids who will be “fine.” Taxes were lower. Great bike trail through Bethesda. Shall I go on?

I would take MoCo 2010 over what we have today. I've never seen such rapid decline.

Me too. Montgomery County and MCPS have definitely declined over the past 10-12 years. We have had kids in the school system and have seen the changes from the oldest to the youngest. Have lived in MoCo for 15 years and it is definitely not as great a place to raise a family as it used to be, unfortunately.

Well the majority of real Montgomery county residents disagree with you. Over 85% said Montgomery county is a great place to raise a family and over 82% said MCPS is great.

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Anonymous wrote:OP — I’d be more willing to listen if you weren’t so over the top. Tone it down and try again, and you might convince more people.

OK then let me calm down and try again. This is why MoCo is failing:

- Council supports crony capitalism for developer donors
- Executive doesn’t appear to support private sector at all
- Council supports meaningless social justice initiatives
- Executive has bombastic history of leftist rhetoric and associations
- Executive favors insider supporters over regular constituents
- Like other leftist regimes, when you tax and “social justice” your tax base to oblivion, they leave.

Got it?

Is this like the anarchy in Portland, or New York City emptying out? And then you go to Portland and almost all of the streets are as orderly as ever, or you go to New York City and there are still millions of people living there?

Montgomery County isn't paradise on earth, to be sure, but the only people who believe Montgomery County is failing are people who wish it were still 1975 in Montgomery County. Or maybe 1955.

Not true. Wasn’t even born then. I’ll take MoCo circa 2000, thank you very much. I did not worry about walking in my neighborhood alone at night. The schools were not overcrowded. Teachers had time to focus on even the kids who will be “fine.” Taxes were lower. Great bike trail through Bethesda. Shall I go on?

I would take MoCo 2010 over what we have today. I've never seen such rapid decline.

Me too. Montgomery County and MCPS have definitely declined over the past 10-12 years. We have had kids in the school system and have seen the changes from the oldest to the youngest. Have lived in MoCo for 15 years and it is definitely not as great a place to raise a family as it used to be, unfortunately.

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Anonymous wrote:OP — I’d be more willing to listen if you weren’t so over the top. Tone it down and try again, and you might convince more people.

OK then let me calm down and try again. This is why MoCo is failing:

- Council supports crony capitalism for developer donors
- Executive doesn’t appear to support private sector at all
- Council supports meaningless social justice initiatives
- Executive has bombastic history of leftist rhetoric and associations
- Executive favors insider supporters over regular constituents
- Like other leftist regimes, when you tax and “social justice” your tax base to oblivion, they leave.

Got it?

Is this like the anarchy in Portland, or New York City emptying out? And then you go to Portland and almost all of the streets are as orderly as ever, or you go to New York City and there are still millions of people living there?

Montgomery County isn't paradise on earth, to be sure, but the only people who believe Montgomery County is failing are people who wish it were still 1975 in Montgomery County. Or maybe 1955.

Not true. Wasn’t even born then. I’ll take MoCo circa 2000, thank you very much. I did not worry about walking in my neighborhood alone at night. The schools were not overcrowded. Teachers had time to focus on even the kids who will be “fine.” Taxes were lower. Great bike trail through Bethesda. Shall I go on?

I would take MoCo 2010 over what we have today. I've never seen such rapid decline.

Never recovered from the GFC. In fact, the GFC led to the direct entrenchment of politicians that furthered the decline.

You hate to have to say this, but thank god for Ficker getting term limits passed. The strong support for that county wide was a direct plebiscite on our entrenched elected leaders, some of whom were getting elected based on a few thousand party activists and didn’t represent the interests of the county as a whole.

We left to about a year and a half ago. Schools were the main force. Incapable of walking and chewing gum. It got so much better! There are other counties around that are doing much better work with tax dollars. Granted harder to move now with interest rates and sellers not dropping prices. And frankly much of DCUM seems to be able to buy their way out of so much of the dysfunction. But if you are solidly upper middle class 2010 MoCo is in other counties…

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Anonymous wrote:OP — I’d be more willing to listen if you weren’t so over the top. Tone it down and try again, and you might convince more people.

OK then let me calm down and try again. This is why MoCo is failing:

- Council supports crony capitalism for developer donors
- Executive doesn’t appear to support private sector at all
- Council supports meaningless social justice initiatives
- Executive has bombastic history of leftist rhetoric and associations
- Executive favors insider supporters over regular constituents
- Like other leftist regimes, when you tax and “social justice” your tax base to oblivion, they leave.

Got it?

Is this like the anarchy in Portland, or New York City emptying out? And then you go to Portland and almost all of the streets are as orderly as ever, or you go to New York City and there are still millions of people living there?

Montgomery County isn't paradise on earth, to be sure, but the only people who believe Montgomery County is failing are people who wish it were still 1975 in Montgomery County. Or maybe 1955.

Not true. Wasn’t even born then. I’ll take MoCo circa 2000, thank you very much. I did not worry about walking in my neighborhood alone at night. The schools were not overcrowded. Teachers had time to focus on even the kids who will be “fine.” Taxes were lower. Great bike trail through Bethesda. Shall I go on?

I would take MoCo 2010 over what we have today. I've never seen such rapid decline.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I agree with you.
I wish we could move, but our jobs have a pinned.

You know you could just cross the river, right? Or drive down on wisconsin Ave, or Connecticut Ave, or Massachusetts Ave or 16th street down to DC, right?

Can’t afford it anymore. DC real estate has appreciated much more than ours.

Having lived in a socialist country, I can affirm with 100% confidence that MoCo is NOT socialist or communist.

And anyone who says this is clearly a troll.

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Anonymous wrote:OP — I’d be more willing to listen if you weren’t so over the top. Tone it down and try again, and you might convince more people.

OK then let me calm down and try again. This is why MoCo is failing:

- Council supports crony capitalism for developer donors
- Executive doesn’t appear to support private sector at all
- Council supports meaningless social justice initiatives
- Executive has bombastic history of leftist rhetoric and associations
- Executive favors insider supporters over regular constituents
- Like other leftist regimes, when you tax and “social justice” your tax base to oblivion, they leave.

Got it?

Is this like the anarchy in Portland, or New York City emptying out? And then you go to Portland and almost all of the streets are as orderly as ever, or you go to New York City and there are still millions of people living there?

Montgomery County isn't paradise on earth, to be sure, but the only people who believe Montgomery County is failing are people who wish it were still 1975 in Montgomery County. Or maybe 1955.

Not true. Wasn’t even born then. I’ll take MoCo circa 2000, thank you very much. I did not worry about walking in my neighborhood alone at night. The schools were not overcrowded. Teachers had time to focus on even the kids who will be “fine.” Taxes were lower. Great bike trail through Bethesda. Shall I go on?

Anonymous wrote:So Op's complaints are ~ MoCo taxes too much, can be accused of cronyism, and won't open schools due to union demands

Let’s not forget the campaign against police and SROs in school. Now we have a teacher shortage and too much crime in places where it never existed before. Sullivan in the general!

Anonymous wrote:Your post seems extreme.

I will admit I didn’t buy in MoCo because of the politics. It’s pretty obvious that it’s a leftist regime that doesn’t support what’s best for my family (well funded police force, strong public schools, low crime, reasonable taxes etc).

I feel bad for the people who bought in nicer neighborhoods and didn’t realize the local government is against pretty much everything they stand for. It will only get worse as these policies are implemented.

Anyone who is concerned should move now while they can.

I love my Bethesda neighborhood too much to move. After supporting Elrich last time, I think I will vote for Sullivan, though I have not voted for an R since the Governor’s race.

Anonymous wrote:You guys that hate MoCo can move to NoVA if you think it's so much better over there.

Literally, no one cares if you leave. I would love to see fewer boomers TBH.

No siree bob. We do not want MoCo expats in NoVa. Go to Florida stay away from us