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Anonymous wrote:I also wonder when we're going to get around to it not being ok to casually accuse men of being gay if they don't strictly conform to the US frat guy model of what it means to be a guy.

Just some underlying misogyny to unpack there.

You are using the word misogyny incorrectly. Say homophobic.

No. You don’t get it.

When you make feminine qualities in a man something that are somehow embarrassing, to be avoided, a sign you are gay if you have a wife and kids.

When the worst thing a boy or man can do is have feminine qualities (ie toxic masculinity). Yet girls are encouraged all day long to have stereotypically male qualities and in fact it’s celebrated.

At the root of all that is a dislike of women and traditionally feminine qualities.

Eh, I think drag culture is arguably minstrel misogyny - it’s mocking and degrading women. Here, her husband isn’t effeminate - he’s just very California and doesn’t fit it in outdoorsy Utah and has no practical construction know-how. So, it is incorrect to use dislike of McGhee or the lack of sexual chemistry with his spouse as an example of misogyny. It isn’t. It might be homophobic- b/c there is an implication that being gay is less than.

So he’s being accused of being gay because he isn’t in construction and not outdoorsy enough (???). But this is no commentary on his masculinity. Mmkay.

It is not negative commentary on women or womenhood - thus, not misogyny...yikes.

Misogyny is contempt of women.

Men in this country are told over and over from the time they are young boys that stereotypical feminine qualities, interests, tendencies (like being too emotional) are not "cool" (if they're lucky) or they're told it's flat out not allowed for them. Why is this the worst thing a guy could be? Contempt of women. We as women internalize it too.

Assuming any man who doesn't conform to male standards is gay, which happens regularly, is not some objective fact check devoid of meaning. Please. It's a school yard way of taking him down a notch. It's a socially acceptable way to call out a guy who doesn't seem masculine enough for you. Internalized misogyny.

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Anonymous wrote:based on this thread, i'm watching Room to Improve on Prime. i'm on the first free epi, season 7, epi 1, and obviously the closed captions have been done by an american who has never heard an irish accent in their life.

"It's called the Saxo," was actually "it's a cul-de-sac."

"She once dropped me in Boba Rothman, might I add. Brad Pill in Boba Rothman," was actually "she wants to wrap me in bubble wrap, might I add, wrap me up in bubble wrap."

"if she gets a lam-cis-the-min," was actually "if she gets an alarm system in."

i'm 3 minutes in. i'm going to miss the renovations because i'm going to spend my time reading the 'merican captions.

Wait until the episodes where they are in Tipperary. The accents are so thick that the captions say [mumbles] a few times. I have Irish family and even I have a hard time with certain Irish accents, so I don’t fault them!

Me again. Apparently, the episode I’m referencing is famous.

https://www.dailyedge.ie/room-to-improve-17-3923909-Mar2018/

https://www.joe.ie/movies-tv/room-improve-620418

https://www.irishmirror.ie/whats-on/film-news/room-to-improve-2018-dermot-12252290

And the homeowner had to make a statement because she got destroyed on social media (10,000 tweets about that episode!):
https://extra.ie/2018/03/29/entertainment/movies-tv/room-to-improve-katie-hits-back

can't wait!

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Anonymous wrote:based on this thread, i'm watching Room to Improve on Prime. i'm on the first free epi, season 7, epi 1, and obviously the closed captions have been done by an american who has never heard an irish accent in their life.

"It's called the Saxo," was actually "it's a cul-de-sac."

"She once dropped me in Boba Rothman, might I add. Brad Pill in Boba Rothman," was actually "she wants to wrap me in bubble wrap, might I add, wrap me up in bubble wrap."

"if she gets a lam-cis-the-min," was actually "if she gets an alarm system in."

i'm 3 minutes in. i'm going to miss the renovations because i'm going to spend my time reading the 'merican captions.

Wait until the episodes where they are in Tipperary. The accents are so thick that the captions say [mumbles] a few times. I have Irish family and even I have a hard time with certain Irish accents, so I don’t fault them!

this one has [heavy accent].

"The [heavy accent] will actually flail in the present time. Betsy were just digging out the last bit of foundation on," was actually "it's going fine now. we're actually fine now at the present time. basically, we're just digging out the last bit of the foundation now."

maybe the abnormal amount of brit reality trash tv with irish contestants that i've watched is finally paying off.

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Anonymous wrote:I also wonder when we're going to get around to it not being ok to casually accuse men of being gay if they don't strictly conform to the US frat guy model of what it means to be a guy.

Just some underlying misogyny to unpack there.

You are using the word misogyny incorrectly. Say homophobic.

No. You don’t get it.

When you make feminine qualities in a man something that are somehow embarrassing, to be avoided, a sign you are gay if you have a wife and kids.

When the worst thing a boy or man can do is have feminine qualities (ie toxic masculinity). Yet girls are encouraged all day long to have stereotypically male qualities and in fact it’s celebrated.

At the root of all that is a dislike of women and traditionally feminine qualities.

Eh, I think drag culture is arguably minstrel misogyny - it’s mocking and degrading women. Here, her husband isn’t effeminate - he’s just very California and doesn’t fit it in outdoorsy Utah and has no practical construction know-how. So, it is incorrect to use dislike of McGhee or the lack of sexual chemistry with his spouse as an example of misogyny. It isn’t. It might be homophobic- b/c there is an implication that being gay is less than.

So he’s being accused of being gay because he isn’t in construction and not outdoorsy enough (???). But this is no commentary on his masculinity. Mmkay.

It is not negative commentary on women or womenhood - thus, not misogyny...yikes.

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Anonymous wrote:based on this thread, i'm watching Room to Improve on Prime. i'm on the first free epi, season 7, epi 1, and obviously the closed captions have been done by an american who has never heard an irish accent in their life.

"It's called the Saxo," was actually "it's a cul-de-sac."

"She once dropped me in Boba Rothman, might I add. Brad Pill in Boba Rothman," was actually "she wants to wrap me in bubble wrap, might I add, wrap me up in bubble wrap."

"if she gets a lam-cis-the-min," was actually "if she gets an alarm system in."

i'm 3 minutes in. i'm going to miss the renovations because i'm going to spend my time reading the 'merican captions.

Wait until the episodes where they are in Tipperary. The accents are so thick that the captions say [mumbles] a few times. I have Irish family and even I have a hard time with certain Irish accents, so I don’t fault them!

Me again. Apparently, the episode I’m referencing is famous.

https://www.dailyedge.ie/room-to-improve-17-3923909-Mar2018/

https://www.joe.ie/movies-tv/room-improve-620418

https://www.irishmirror.ie/whats-on/film-news/room-to-improve-2018-dermot-12252290

And the homeowner had to make a statement because she got destroyed on social media (10,000 tweets about that episode!):
https://extra.ie/2018/03/29/entertainment/movies-tv/room-to-improve-katie-hits-back

Anonymous wrote:Their faces singing happy Birthday to Syd. Lol workplace forced fun lol

DW made the same comment. Everyone of them, was singing through their teeth.

Anonymous wrote:based on this thread, i'm watching Room to Improve on Prime. i'm on the first free epi, season 7, epi 1, and obviously the closed captions have been done by an american who has never heard an irish accent in their life.

"It's called the Saxo," was actually "it's a cul-de-sac."

"She once dropped me in Boba Rothman, might I add. Brad Pill in Boba Rothman," was actually "she wants to wrap me in bubble wrap, might I add, wrap me up in bubble wrap."

"if she gets a lam-cis-the-min," was actually "if she gets an alarm system in."

i'm 3 minutes in. i'm going to miss the renovations because i'm going to spend my time reading the 'merican captions.

Wait until the episodes where they are in Tipperary. The accents are so thick that the captions say [mumbles] a few times. I have Irish family and even I have a hard time with certain Irish accents, so I don’t fault them!

based on this thread, i'm watching Room to Improve on Prime. i'm on the first free epi, season 7, epi 1, and obviously the closed captions have been done by an american who has never heard an irish accent in their life.

"It's called the Saxo," was actually "it's a cul-de-sac."

"She once dropped me in Boba Rothman, might I add. Brad Pill in Boba Rothman," was actually "she wants to wrap me in bubble wrap, might I add, wrap me up in bubble wrap."

"if she gets a lam-cis-the-min," was actually "if she gets an alarm system in."

i'm 3 minutes in. i'm going to miss the renovations because i'm going to spend my time reading the 'merican captions.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also wonder when we're going to get around to it not being ok to casually accuse men of being gay if they don't strictly conform to the US frat guy model of what it means to be a guy.

Just some underlying misogyny to unpack there.

You are using the word misogyny incorrectly. Say homophobic.

No. You don’t get it.

When you make feminine qualities in a man something that are somehow embarrassing, to be avoided, a sign you are gay if you have a wife and kids.

When the worst thing a boy or man can do is have feminine qualities (ie toxic masculinity). Yet girls are encouraged all day long to have stereotypically male qualities and in fact it’s celebrated.

At the root of all that is a dislike of women and traditionally feminine qualities.

Eh, I think drag culture is arguably minstrel misogyny - it’s mocking and degrading women. Here, her husband isn’t effeminate - he’s just very California and doesn’t fit it in outdoorsy Utah and has no practical construction know-how. So, it is incorrect to use dislike of McGhee or the lack of sexual chemistry with his spouse as an example of misogyny. It isn’t. It might be homophobic- b/c there is an implication that being gay is less than.

So he’s being accused of being gay because he isn’t in construction and not outdoorsy enough (???). But this is no commentary on his masculinity. Mmkay.

There are no window treatments in the master bedroom in episode 1 and I think that is stupid.

Also Hawaiian inspired does not equal California coastal, just sayin

Their faces singing happy Birthday to Syd. Lol workplace forced fun lol

Anonymous wrote:The lady who wanted a “tropic/Hawaiian” feel to the room and Shay’s reaction to the pillows the lady wanted to use. I felt so badly for the woman. The pillows were so much better than I thought they were going to be. I hope after the show the homeowner bought some inserts off Amazon and put them on her bed. They would look fine in that very plain room.

I thought the kitchen renovation in the 1908 house was really nice and reflected the home well.

I think they are going to get divorced. There was so much tension and she seems obviously annoyed by him and his inappropriate comments.

Oh you mean the $30k small bedroom remodel where she used one of $70 prints from target?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also wonder when we're going to get around to it not being ok to casually accuse men of being gay if they don't strictly conform to the US frat guy model of what it means to be a guy.

Just some underlying misogyny to unpack there.

You are using the word misogyny incorrectly. Say homophobic.

No. You don’t get it.

When you make feminine qualities in a man something that are somehow embarrassing, to be avoided, a sign you are gay if you have a wife and kids.

When the worst thing a boy or man can do is have feminine qualities (ie toxic masculinity). Yet girls are encouraged all day long to have stereotypically male qualities and in fact it’s celebrated.

At the root of all that is a dislike of women and traditionally feminine qualities.

Eh, I think drag culture is arguably minstrel misogyny - it’s mocking and degrading women. Here, her husband isn’t effeminate - he’s just very California and doesn’t fit it in outdoorsy Utah and has no practical construction know-how. So, it is incorrect to use dislike of McGhee or the lack of sexual chemistry with his spouse as an example of misogyny. It isn’t. It might be homophobic- b/c there is an implication that being gay is less than.

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Anonymous wrote:I also wonder when we're going to get around to it not being ok to casually accuse men of being gay if they don't strictly conform to the US frat guy model of what it means to be a guy.

Just some underlying misogyny to unpack there.

You are using the word misogyny incorrectly. Say homophobic.

No. You don’t get it.

When you make feminine qualities in a man something that are somehow embarrassing, to be avoided, a sign you are gay if you have a wife and kids.

When the worst thing a boy or man can do is have feminine qualities (ie toxic masculinity). Yet girls are encouraged all day long to have stereotypically male qualities and in fact it’s celebrated.

At the root of all that is a dislike of women and traditionally feminine qualities.