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Anonymous wrote:I agree with you op. It’s disgusting how no one cares about parents or school aged children. And that people just pretend we’re bad parents for needing to go to work.

We should have emergency funds. And the government SHOULD provide more stimulus relief checks.

No, the government shouldn't provide relief checks to working parents and parents are responsible for their own child care. If you cannot afford child care, you need to rework your budget or apply for vouchers.

Are there actually vouchers for childcare?

Yes. But the income requirements in DC are pretty low -- it is easy for a family of 4 to make too much to qualify but not enough to afford full-care on their own after the costs of housing in the city (i.e. a family of 4 making 90k would not qualify, but no way could you afford market rent in DC plus full time childcare for 2 kids on that salary).

Even if you do qualify, the waitlists for the city-run centers are crazy long, especially now. You can use the vouchers for some qualifying childcares in the city, but there are a lot of hoops to jump through and it's not so simple as just applying for a voucher today and getting your kid into a daycare.

Also, if your kids are, say, 6 and 8 years old, you may have a very hard time finding any facility that will take them as most childcare facilities do not normally take kids older than 4 (kids 5 and up are required to be in school usually). So then you are talking about day camps or nannies, and the vouchers absolutely do not pay for that.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how 2020 has exposed parents.

Its all hugs and rainbows and 'children fill a void' until you actually have to take care of and watch them 24/7, 7 days a week.

Now its 'I'm going to be hospitalized if you don't get them out of here'.

And you wonder why the child-free and single are enjoying the pandemic so much?

No, it's until I have to take care of them and watch them 24/7, 7, while ALSO being their primary educator, while ALSO working 40-50 hours a week.

If the child free and single are enjoying a pandemic where 200k of their fellow citizens have died in the past 6 months, simply so they can gloat that they aren't struggling like everyone else is, that makes them (you?) sound pretty bad.

Come back to me about 'sounds pretty bad' after parents stop demanding buildings that house over 800,000 individuals 8 hours a day in boxes and are a petri dish ready to explode the community infection rates be re-opened.

Also google - White House Rose Garden Superspreader Event. Because that's exactly what happens when you get a confluence of children and adults in a room - Covid+ rates go up like a nuclear bomb went off.

The D.C. infection rate increased by 66% because of that one day. https://dcist.com/story/20/10/06/dc-highest-coronavirus-cases-daily-count-data/

So what's your take on bars, restaurants, malls, gyms, non essential stores and businesses being open for adults?

All of those things, including public pools and public parks, don't have a group of 20-30 individuals gathered together in the equivalent of a 100-square foot box for 8 hours in a day.

It allows free flowing individuals and surges of family units to partake in short bursts of buying (usually in less than half hour intervals) and/or outside eating or severely restricted indoor eating.

If you told me you could open classrooms with one teacher and five students and each student would be 15 feet apart and classes would be restricted to just an hour a day. Sure.

But all day in tanks while breathing the same air with hundreds to thousands of students in one building? No.

I am not sure where you got that picture from but it's .... not what schools that are open look like right now. Like.... at all. Lol. Do you have kids?

What exactly do you think schools re-opening in this area with 800,000 students will look like? Please do tell and don't like to freaking North Dakota where there are maybe 300 students in the entire high school.

Since it's clear you aren't a parent and haven't taken part in the numerous surveys, school board meetings, etc that have been happening for the past 6 months about re opening schools, I'm not going to take the time to explain it to you. You're so ignorant to the issue that you don't even realize how ignorant you are.

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Anonymous wrote:Still not sure why OP things people should send them a check.

Np. Because our tax payer dollars are going towards open schools and teachers and none of that is happening. I agree that everyone pays taxes but this is mostly affecting school aged parents.

It’s as if nursing homes tossed the elderly on the sidewalk and told their kids to deal with it. Surely you budgeted for your parents care?!

Nursing homes aren't free.

Some arent. Just like some schools arent. You are a poor debater.

If you're sending your parent to a rat-and-roach infested subsidy hellhole I pity you. You're also still not getting schools open. Vote for Biden though! He might send a childcare check in 2021. Might.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how 2020 has exposed parents.

Its all hugs and rainbows and 'children fill a void' until you actually have to take care of and watch them 24/7, 7 days a week.

Now its 'I'm going to be hospitalized if you don't get them out of here'.

And you wonder why the child-free and single are enjoying the pandemic so much?

No, it's until I have to take care of them and watch them 24/7, 7, while ALSO being their primary educator, while ALSO working 40-50 hours a week.

If the child free and single are enjoying a pandemic where 200k of their fellow citizens have died in the past 6 months, simply so they can gloat that they aren't struggling like everyone else is, that makes them (you?) sound pretty bad.

Come back to me about 'sounds pretty bad' after parents stop demanding buildings that house over 800,000 individuals 8 hours a day in boxes and are a petri dish ready to explode the community infection rates be re-opened.

Also google - White House Rose Garden Superspreader Event. Because that's exactly what happens when you get a confluence of children and adults in a room - Covid+ rates go up like a nuclear bomb went off.

The D.C. infection rate increased by 66% because of that one day. https://dcist.com/story/20/10/06/dc-highest-coronavirus-cases-daily-count-data/

So what's your take on bars, restaurants, malls, gyms, non essential stores and businesses being open for adults?

All of those things, including public pools and public parks, don't have a group of 20-30 individuals gathered together in the equivalent of a 100-square foot box for 8 hours in a day.

It allows free flowing individuals and surges of family units to partake in short bursts of buying (usually in less than half hour intervals) and/or outside eating or severely restricted indoor eating.

If you told me you could open classrooms with one teacher and five students and each student would be 15 feet apart and classes would be restricted to just an hour a day. Sure.

But all day in tanks while breathing the same air with hundreds to thousands of students in one building? No.

I am not sure where you got that picture from but it's .... not what schools that are open look like right now. Like.... at all. Lol. Do you have kids?

What exactly do you think schools re-opening in this area with 800,000 students will look like? Please do tell and don't like to freaking North Dakota where there are maybe 300 students in the entire high school.

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Anonymous wrote:Still not sure why OP things people should send them a check.

Np. Because our tax payer dollars are going towards open schools and teachers and none of that is happening. I agree that everyone pays taxes but this is mostly affecting school aged parents.

It’s as if nursing homes tossed the elderly on the sidewalk and told their kids to deal with it. Surely you budgeted for your parents care?!

Nursing homes aren't free.

Some arent. Just like some schools arent. You are a poor debater.

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Anonymous wrote:Still not sure why OP things people should send them a check.

Probably because they are doing two full-time jobs for the price of one?

Oh wait. People keep telling me that "childcare" and "education" are totally separate and have nothing to do with each other.

Scratch that. THREE full time jobs for the price of one.

Your kids, your responsibility. Teachers are handling the education.

Hmmmhmmm. Keep that attitude as you age, and these children who you don't care about, don't want actual school for, etc etc are going to be your doctors and nurses in your old folks home. Good luck with that. Can't wait to have bypass surgery from someone who went to TV school.

The fact that you assume your precious one is going to be my doctor is laughable. Do they have the skills? Do they have the intelligence?

Its incredibly difficult to get the required courseload, pass the MCATs, go through residency, and then into specialties.

There are far more interested parties than they are spots at the top programs. But keep believing we'll suddenly have a shortage of capable physicians and surgeons in a country where the medical profession draws some of the best applicants in the world.

How will ANY CHILDREN have the skills and intelligence going forward if THEY DON'T GO TO SCHOOL?

Your mocking x10000000000. You know what the real problem is? DC type A parents who need to calm the F down.

Easy to say that as a childless person who is, for some reason, frequenting a parenting message board at 11pm on a Friday.

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Anonymous wrote:Still not sure why OP things people should send them a check.

Np. Because our tax payer dollars are going towards open schools and teachers and none of that is happening. I agree that everyone pays taxes but this is mostly affecting school aged parents.

It’s as if nursing homes tossed the elderly on the sidewalk and told their kids to deal with it. Surely you budgeted for your parents care?!

Nursing homes aren't free.

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Anonymous wrote:Still not sure why OP things people should send them a check.

Probably because they are doing two full-time jobs for the price of one?

Oh wait. People keep telling me that "childcare" and "education" are totally separate and have nothing to do with each other.

Scratch that. THREE full time jobs for the price of one.

Your kids, your responsibility. Teachers are handling the education.

Hmmmhmmm. Keep that attitude as you age, and these children who you don't care about, don't want actual school for, etc etc are going to be your doctors and nurses in your old folks home. Good luck with that. Can't wait to have bypass surgery from someone who went to TV school.

The fact that you assume your precious one is going to be my doctor is laughable. Do they have the skills? Do they have the intelligence?

Its incredibly difficult to get the required courseload, pass the MCATs, go through residency, and then into specialties.

There are far more interested parties than they are spots at the top programs. But keep believing we'll suddenly have a shortage of capable physicians and surgeons in a country where the medical profession draws some of the best applicants in the world.

How will ANY CHILDREN have the skills and intelligence going forward if THEY DON'T GO TO SCHOOL?

Your mocking x10000000000. You know what the real problem is? DC type A parents who need to calm the F down.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how 2020 has exposed parents.

Its all hugs and rainbows and 'children fill a void' until you actually have to take care of and watch them 24/7, 7 days a week.

Now its 'I'm going to be hospitalized if you don't get them out of here'.

And you wonder why the child-free and single are enjoying the pandemic so much?

No, it's until I have to take care of them and watch them 24/7, 7, while ALSO being their primary educator, while ALSO working 40-50 hours a week.

If the child free and single are enjoying a pandemic where 200k of their fellow citizens have died in the past 6 months, simply so they can gloat that they aren't struggling like everyone else is, that makes them (you?) sound pretty bad.

Come back to me about 'sounds pretty bad' after parents stop demanding buildings that house over 800,000 individuals 8 hours a day in boxes and are a petri dish ready to explode the community infection rates be re-opened.

Also google - White House Rose Garden Superspreader Event. Because that's exactly what happens when you get a confluence of children and adults in a room - Covid+ rates go up like a nuclear bomb went off.

The D.C. infection rate increased by 66% because of that one day. https://dcist.com/story/20/10/06/dc-highest-coronavirus-cases-daily-count-data/

So what's your take on bars, restaurants, malls, gyms, non essential stores and businesses being open for adults?

All of those things, including public pools and public parks, don't have a group of 20-30 individuals gathered together in the equivalent of a 100-square foot box for 8 hours in a day.

It allows free flowing individuals and surges of family units to partake in short bursts of buying (usually in less than half hour intervals) and/or outside eating or severely restricted indoor eating.

If you told me you could open classrooms with one teacher and five students and each student would be 15 feet apart and classes would be restricted to just an hour a day. Sure.

But all day in tanks while breathing the same air with hundreds to thousands of students in one building? No.

I am not sure where you got that picture from but it's .... not what schools that are open look like right now. Like.... at all. Lol. Do you have kids?

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Anonymous wrote:I love how 2020 has exposed parents.

Its all hugs and rainbows and 'children fill a void' until you actually have to take care of and watch them 24/7, 7 days a week.

Now its 'I'm going to be hospitalized if you don't get them out of here'.

And you wonder why the child-free and single are enjoying the pandemic so much?

If only your parents had done the smart thing and remained child-free. Too bad.

My parents are perfectly happy. They are working to offset the extreme stress their siblings are under with younger kids for the past half year though. Inviting them outside for barbecues and swimming pool time as many weekends as they can. However they don't know what they're going to do now that its starting to snow.

Wait, what? So you have cousins who are children? What are you... 23?

GTFO. I mean it.

She (he?) probably is. It's the only age of person who'd be talking about enjoying the pandemic. Based on the number of parties I see going on in that age group at all hours of the day and night in my part of the city. Many of them have already had covid and it was mild for them, so they truly don't care (about the pandemic, about the fact that they probably spread it to someone else, about anyone else in the society they naively think will still be there for them in a decade at this rate)

I don’t get this whole distance learning but still requiring your parents to help you the entire day. Just cut ties with the school district and pass out homeschooling tools + voucher so parents can afford childcare or the loss of parent income.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how 2020 has exposed parents.

Its all hugs and rainbows and 'children fill a void' until you actually have to take care of and watch them 24/7, 7 days a week.

Now its 'I'm going to be hospitalized if you don't get them out of here'.

And you wonder why the child-free and single are enjoying the pandemic so much?

No, it's until I have to take care of them and watch them 24/7, 7, while ALSO being their primary educator, while ALSO working 40-50 hours a week.

If the child free and single are enjoying a pandemic where 200k of their fellow citizens have died in the past 6 months, simply so they can gloat that they aren't struggling like everyone else is, that makes them (you?) sound pretty bad.

Come back to me about 'sounds pretty bad' after parents stop demanding buildings that house over 800,000 individuals 8 hours a day in boxes and are a petri dish ready to explode the community infection rates be re-opened.

Also google - White House Rose Garden Superspreader Event. Because that's exactly what happens when you get a confluence of children and adults in a room - Covid+ rates go up like a nuclear bomb went off.

The D.C. infection rate increased by 66% because of that one day. https://dcist.com/story/20/10/06/dc-highest-coronavirus-cases-daily-count-data/

So what's your take on bars, restaurants, malls, gyms, non essential stores and businesses being open for adults?

All of those things, including public pools and public parks, don't have a group of 20-30 individuals gathered together in the equivalent of a 100-square foot box for 8 hours in a day.

It allows free flowing individuals and surges of family units to partake in short bursts of buying (usually in less than half hour intervals) and/or outside eating or severely restricted indoor eating.

If you told me you could open classrooms with one teacher and five students and each student would be 15 feet apart and classes would be restricted to just an hour a day. Sure.

But all day in tanks while breathing the same air with hundreds to thousands of students in one building? No.

Anonymous wrote:Still not sure why OP things people should send them a check.

Np. Because our tax payer dollars are going towards open schools and teachers and none of that is happening. I agree that everyone pays taxes but this is mostly affecting school aged parents.

It’s as if nursing homes tossed the elderly on the sidewalk and told their kids to deal with it. Surely you budgeted for your parents care?!

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Anonymous wrote:I love how 2020 has exposed parents.

Its all hugs and rainbows and 'children fill a void' until you actually have to take care of and watch them 24/7, 7 days a week.

Now its 'I'm going to be hospitalized if you don't get them out of here'.

And you wonder why the child-free and single are enjoying the pandemic so much?

No, it's until I have to take care of them and watch them 24/7, 7, while ALSO being their primary educator, while ALSO working 40-50 hours a week.

If the child free and single are enjoying a pandemic where 200k of their fellow citizens have died in the past 6 months, simply so they can gloat that they aren't struggling like everyone else is, that makes them (you?) sound pretty bad.

Come back to me about 'sounds pretty bad' after parents stop demanding buildings that house over 800,000 individuals 8 hours a day in boxes and are a petri dish ready to explode the community infection rates be re-opened.

Also google - White House Rose Garden Superspreader Event. Because that's exactly what happens when you get a confluence of children and adults in a room - Covid+ rates go up like a nuclear bomb went off.

The D.C. infection rate increased by 66% because of that one day. https://dcist.com/story/20/10/06/dc-highest-coronavirus-cases-daily-count-data/

Is your argument that the presence of like, 3 children at the Rose Garden ceremony is what caused the spread?

It was 7 kids and its pretty well documented that a) the Covid carrier load increases in children while they are virtually asymptomatic, and b) the White House did not require Covid-19 testing of attendees.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/916810.page

I don't know which part of what you said to LOL at more. The 7 kids out of hundreds of attendees somehow being the culprits... the fact that covid viral load in kids hasn't translated to higher level of contagiousness to others in that population.... or the link to a different DCUM thread as some sort of proof.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with you op. It’s disgusting how no one cares about parents or school aged children. And that people just pretend we’re bad parents for needing to go to work.

We should have emergency funds. And the government SHOULD provide more stimulus relief checks.

No, the government shouldn't provide relief checks to working parents and parents are responsible for their own child care. If you cannot afford child care, you need to rework your budget or apply for vouchers.

Are there actually vouchers for childcare?