Anonymous
09/30/2020 18:48
Subject: Re:10/1 TJ Admissions School Board Meeting Cancelled
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Brabrand screwed up. The 10/1 meeting was cancelled, the 10/2 meeting was cancelled, and SB members are now telling people this will drag out for months.
And TJ continues to suck up all of the oxygen in the room. Just decide and MOVE ON to getting the other 99% of students some semblance of an education.
Like I said, this will have to be addressed by legislature now since Brabrand has annoyed other jurisdictions.
Brabrand has annoyed other jurisdictions, but it doesn't require action by the state legislature.
Quoting yourself when you're wrong is just doubling down on stupid.
NP. It absolutely requires the state legislature. Because the other jurisdiction has asked a governing board by set up— which they are entitled to under the statute. Brabrand needs to set one up and listen to them, or go to the legislature.
Anonymous
09/30/2020 18:27
Subject: Re:10/1 TJ Admissions School Board Meeting Cancelled
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Brabrand screwed up. The 10/1 meeting was cancelled, the 10/2 meeting was cancelled, and SB members are now telling people this will drag out for months.
And TJ continues to suck up all of the oxygen in the room. Just decide and MOVE ON to getting the other 99% of students some semblance of an education.
Like I said, this will have to be addressed by legislature now since Brabrand has annoyed other jurisdictions.
Brabrand has annoyed other jurisdictions, but it doesn't require action by the state legislature.
Quoting yourself when you're wrong is just doubling down on stupid.
The other jurisdictions are demanding regional governing board be set up as required by the applicable laws and regulations and any waivers will not work anymore since other jurisdictions will object to further waivers.
As long as jurisdictions cannot agree on the new admissions system, the state has to step in and the legislature will have to pass a law and the governor will have to sign it.
Please stop.
If Qarni wants a regional governing board, he'll tell FCPS to go ahead and form one with LCPS, PWCPS, etc. That is already contemplated under state law. Or, alternatively, he could continue to exempt FCPS from any requirement to form one.
Neither action requires the state legislature to pass a law, although the legislature could always step in and pass new laws affecting the Governor's Schools. However, the suggestion that other jurisdictions have veto rights over TJ's future that can only be resolved by passing a bill is incorrect.
Unfortunately, Qarni is not a dictator so he can’t just tell fcps to establish a regional governing board. All of the participating jurisdictions will have to do that together. Any exemption will not work if other jurisdictions object. Call Qarni and ask him yourself if you want to confirm.
Anonymous
09/30/2020 18:21
Subject: Re:10/1 TJ Admissions School Board Meeting Cancelled
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Brabrand screwed up. The 10/1 meeting was cancelled, the 10/2 meeting was cancelled, and SB members are now telling people this will drag out for months.
And TJ continues to suck up all of the oxygen in the room. Just decide and MOVE ON to getting the other 99% of students some semblance of an education.
Like I said, this will have to be addressed by legislature now since Brabrand has annoyed other jurisdictions.
Brabrand has annoyed other jurisdictions, but it doesn't require action by the state legislature.
Quoting yourself when you're wrong is just doubling down on stupid.
The other jurisdictions are demanding regional governing board be set up as required by the applicable laws and regulations and any waivers will not work anymore since other jurisdictions will object to further waivers.
As long as jurisdictions cannot agree on the new admissions system, the state has to step in and the legislature will have to pass a law and the governor will have to sign it.
Please stop.
If Qarni wants a regional governing board, he'll tell FCPS to go ahead and form one with LCPS, PWCPS, etc. That is already contemplated under state law. Or, alternatively, he could continue to exempt FCPS from any requirement to form one.
Neither action requires the state legislature to pass a law, although the legislature could always step in and pass new laws affecting the Governor's Schools. However, the suggestion that other jurisdictions have veto rights over TJ's future that can only be resolved by passing a bill is incorrect.
Anonymous
09/30/2020 18:19
Subject: Re:10/1 TJ Admissions School Board Meeting Cancelled
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Brabrand screwed up. The 10/1 meeting was cancelled, the 10/2 meeting was cancelled, and SB members are now telling people this will drag out for months.
And TJ continues to suck up all of the oxygen in the room. Just decide and MOVE ON to getting the other 99% of students some semblance of an education.
Like I said, this will have to be addressed by legislature now since Brabrand has annoyed other jurisdictions.
Brabrand has annoyed other jurisdictions, but it doesn't require action by the state legislature.
Quoting yourself when you're wrong is just doubling down on stupid.
The other jurisdictions are demanding regional governing board be set up as required by the applicable laws and regulations and any waivers will not work anymore since other jurisdictions will object to further waivers.
As long as jurisdictions cannot agree on the new admissions system, the state has to step in and the legislature will have to pass a law and the governor will have to sign it.
All those racists who were crapping all over Asians now are will be all over Brabrand now that the proposal cannot be rammed through in October. Those racists better get a new head of fcps and try again.
Anonymous
09/30/2020 18:00
Subject: Re:10/1 TJ Admissions School Board Meeting Cancelled
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Brabrand screwed up. The 10/1 meeting was cancelled, the 10/2 meeting was cancelled, and SB members are now telling people this will drag out for months.
And TJ continues to suck up all of the oxygen in the room. Just decide and MOVE ON to getting the other 99% of students some semblance of an education.
Like I said, this will have to be addressed by legislature now since Brabrand has annoyed other jurisdictions.
Brabrand has annoyed other jurisdictions, but it doesn't require action by the state legislature.
Quoting yourself when you're wrong is just doubling down on stupid.
The other jurisdictions are demanding regional governing board be set up as required by the applicable laws and regulations and any waivers will not work anymore since other jurisdictions will object to further waivers.
As long as jurisdictions cannot agree on the new admissions system, the state has to step in and the legislature will have to pass a law and the governor will have to sign it.
Anonymous
09/30/2020 17:55
Subject: Re:10/1 TJ Admissions School Board Meeting Cancelled
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Brabrand screwed up. The 10/1 meeting was cancelled, the 10/2 meeting was cancelled, and SB members are now telling people this will drag out for months.
And TJ continues to suck up all of the oxygen in the room. Just decide and MOVE ON to getting the other 99% of students some semblance of an education.
Like I said, this will have to be addressed by legislature now since Brabrand has annoyed other jurisdictions.
Brabrand has annoyed other jurisdictions, but it doesn't require action by the state legislature.
Quoting yourself when you're wrong is just doubling down on stupid.
Anonymous
09/30/2020 17:48
Subject: Re:10/1 TJ Admissions School Board Meeting Cancelled
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Brabrand screwed up. The 10/1 meeting was cancelled, the 10/2 meeting was cancelled, and SB members are now telling people this will drag out for months.
And TJ continues to suck up all of the oxygen in the room. Just decide and MOVE ON to getting the other 99% of students some semblance of an education.
Like I said, this will have to be addressed by legislature now since Brabrand has annoyed other jurisdictions.
Anonymous
09/30/2020 17:45
Subject: Re:10/1 TJ Admissions School Board Meeting Cancelled
Anonymous wrote:Brabrand screwed up. The 10/1 meeting was cancelled, the 10/2 meeting was cancelled, and SB members are now telling people this will drag out for months.
And TJ continues to suck up all of the oxygen in the room. Just decide and MOVE ON to getting the other 99% of students some semblance of an education.
Anonymous
09/30/2020 16:39
Subject: Re:10/1 TJ Admissions School Board Meeting Cancelled
Brabrand screwed up. The 10/1 meeting was cancelled, the 10/2 meeting was cancelled, and SB members are now telling people this will drag out for months.
Anonymous
09/30/2020 12:58
Subject: 10/1 TJ Admissions School Board Meeting Cancelled
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not correct. Fewer than ten. I believe it’s 6.
And how many of the six admitted decided to attend? I believe most if not all concluded TJ was not going to be a welcoming environment and declined the offer.
They certainly didn’t think that when they spent time, money and effort applying over the period of months.
Answer the question, please.
They would have probably not made it with a lottery system anyway. What is your point? 17 Blacks are projected to be admitted in expectation with the lottery. If you know any statistics, it means there is a good chance less than 6 are admitted. Especially, if other people apply more. 17 is based on all qualified people applying. Are you implying they would be happier and more likely to accept with greater White proportion? Because that is more likely than not to happen. Law of large numbers and many many more Whites in the qualified pool.
Answer the question, please.
Zero. And who knows why? What is your point?
That's right. Zero Black students in the Class of 2024 at TJHSST.
You cannot be an anti-racist and think that discrimination against Asians is the problem here.
Lack of blacks is a problem. Perpetuating white dominance is more of a problem that negatively affects all minorities.
Think long term and big picture. In addition, even if the 17 blacks are admitted, they may make similar calculations and decide not to come to TJ.
The lottery is a much better idea than you understand. It's not just about changing admissions but is about changing the school, the makeup of the school and the school culture. With a different school culture, six or seventeen students might choose to come instead of choose not to.
It may be hard to admit that there's room for improvement in the culture of TJ. But there is.
TJ is not perfect. But what is the cost to your said benefits? People accusing us of racial cleansing, substantially affecting local economies, pulling down the entire student body’s future achievements? It is a fact that people do not value what they get by chance. On top of that, 0 black students may be picked or decide not to come. Then these efforts will be all for naught with all these negative effects!
Pulling down the entire student body's future achievements? Really? How do the other 99.99% of students across the country manage without TJ. How about we try the lottery and see if any of your doomsday predictions actually happen.
hahaha! sure, try it. I don't care. You must look at every aspect of the policy, not only the ultimate outcome (which is dubious to begin with). But also, what happens during the transition. Already people are calling out racial cleansing and this has divided the community. You are so privileged to say, let's try it out! Whites have nothing to lose because the effects on the local economy happens where Asians are the most populated. Whites will have the most increased representation in the student body. Even if TJ becomes an ordinary high school, you are okay with it. They will be so rounded. You have a leg up on society any way.
This will drive Asians to work only harder.
True that.
Anonymous
09/30/2020 12:53
Subject: 10/1 TJ Admissions School Board Meeting Cancelled
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not correct. Fewer than ten. I believe it’s 6.
And how many of the six admitted decided to attend? I believe most if not all concluded TJ was not going to be a welcoming environment and declined the offer.
They certainly didn’t think that when they spent time, money and effort applying over the period of months.
Answer the question, please.
They would have probably not made it with a lottery system anyway. What is your point? 17 Blacks are projected to be admitted in expectation with the lottery. If you know any statistics, it means there is a good chance less than 6 are admitted. Especially, if other people apply more. 17 is based on all qualified people applying. Are you implying they would be happier and more likely to accept with greater White proportion? Because that is more likely than not to happen. Law of large numbers and many many more Whites in the qualified pool.
Answer the question, please.
Zero. And who knows why? What is your point?
That's right. Zero Black students in the Class of 2024 at TJHSST.
You cannot be an anti-racist and think that discrimination against Asians is the problem here.
Lack of blacks is a problem. Perpetuating white dominance is more of a problem that negatively affects all minorities.
Think long term and big picture. In addition, even if the 17 blacks are admitted, they may make similar calculations and decide not to come to TJ.
The lottery is a much better idea than you understand. It's not just about changing admissions but is about changing the school, the makeup of the school and the school culture. With a different school culture, six or seventeen students might choose to come instead of choose not to.
It may be hard to admit that there's room for improvement in the culture of TJ. But there is.
TJ is not perfect. But what is the cost to your said benefits? People accusing us of racial cleansing, substantially affecting local economies, pulling down the entire student body’s future achievements? It is a fact that people do not value what they get by chance. On top of that, 0 black students may be picked or decide not to come. Then these efforts will be all for naught with all these negative effects!
Pulling down the entire student body's future achievements? Really? How do the other 99.99% of students across the country manage without TJ. How about we try the lottery and see if any of your doomsday predictions actually happen.
hahaha! sure, try it. I don't care. You must look at every aspect of the policy, not only the ultimate outcome (which is dubious to begin with). But also, what happens during the transition. Already people are calling out racial cleansing and this has divided the community. You are so privileged to say, let's try it out! Whites have nothing to lose because the effects on the local economy happens where Asians are the most populated. Whites will have the most increased representation in the student body. Even if TJ becomes an ordinary high school, you are okay with it. They will be so rounded. You have a leg up on society any way.
This will drive Asians to work only harder.
Anonymous
09/30/2020 12:44
Subject: 10/1 TJ Admissions School Board Meeting Cancelled
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not correct. Fewer than ten. I believe it’s 6.
And how many of the six admitted decided to attend? I believe most if not all concluded TJ was not going to be a welcoming environment and declined the offer.
They certainly didn’t think that when they spent time, money and effort applying over the period of months.
Answer the question, please.
They would have probably not made it with a lottery system anyway. What is your point? 17 Blacks are projected to be admitted in expectation with the lottery. If you know any statistics, it means there is a good chance less than 6 are admitted. Especially, if other people apply more. 17 is based on all qualified people applying. Are you implying they would be happier and more likely to accept with greater White proportion? Because that is more likely than not to happen. Law of large numbers and many many more Whites in the qualified pool.
Answer the question, please.
Zero. And who knows why? What is your point?
That's right. Zero Black students in the Class of 2024 at TJHSST.
You cannot be an anti-racist and think that discrimination against Asians is the problem here.
Lack of blacks is a problem. Perpetuating white dominance is more of a problem that negatively affects all minorities.
Think long term and big picture. In addition, even if the 17 blacks are admitted, they may make similar calculations and decide not to come to TJ.
Far less likely if TJ is composed of a broader cross section of kids.
Many Asians have darker skin than Blacks. Broader cross section? Asians is not just one ethnicity.
Anonymous
09/30/2020 12:39
Subject: 10/1 TJ Admissions School Board Meeting Cancelled
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not correct. Fewer than ten. I believe it’s 6.
And how many of the six admitted decided to attend? I believe most if not all concluded TJ was not going to be a welcoming environment and declined the offer.
They certainly didn’t think that when they spent time, money and effort applying over the period of months.
Answer the question, please.
They would have probably not made it with a lottery system anyway. What is your point? 17 Blacks are projected to be admitted in expectation with the lottery. If you know any statistics, it means there is a good chance less than 6 are admitted. Especially, if other people apply more. 17 is based on all qualified people applying. Are you implying they would be happier and more likely to accept with greater White proportion? Because that is more likely than not to happen. Law of large numbers and many many more Whites in the qualified pool.
Answer the question, please.
Zero. And who knows why? What is your point?
That's right. Zero Black students in the Class of 2024 at TJHSST.
You cannot be an anti-racist and think that discrimination against Asians is the problem here.
Lack of blacks is a problem. Perpetuating white dominance is more of a problem that negatively affects all minorities.
Think long term and big picture. In addition, even if the 17 blacks are admitted, they may make similar calculations and decide not to come to TJ.
The lottery is a much better idea than you understand. It's not just about changing admissions but is about changing the school, the makeup of the school and the school culture. With a different school culture, six or seventeen students might choose to come instead of choose not to.
It may be hard to admit that there's room for improvement in the culture of TJ. But there is.
TJ is not perfect. But what is the cost to your said benefits? People accusing us of racial cleansing, substantially affecting local economies, pulling down the entire student body’s future achievements? It is a fact that people do not value what they get by chance. On top of that, 0 black students may be picked or decide not to come. Then these efforts will be all for naught with all these negative effects!
Pulling down the entire student body's future achievements? Really? How do the other 99.99% of students across the country manage without TJ. How about we try the lottery and see if any of your doomsday predictions actually happen.
Anonymous
09/30/2020 12:33
Subject: 10/1 TJ Admissions School Board Meeting Cancelled
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not correct. Fewer than ten. I believe it’s 6.
And how many of the six admitted decided to attend? I believe most if not all concluded TJ was not going to be a welcoming environment and declined the offer.
They certainly didn’t think that when they spent time, money and effort applying over the period of months.
Answer the question, please.
They would have probably not made it with a lottery system anyway. What is your point? 17 Blacks are projected to be admitted in expectation with the lottery. If you know any statistics, it means there is a good chance less than 6 are admitted. Especially, if other people apply more. 17 is based on all qualified people applying. Are you implying they would be happier and more likely to accept with greater White proportion? Because that is more likely than not to happen. Law of large numbers and many many more Whites in the qualified pool.
Answer the question, please.
Zero. And who knows why? What is your point?
That's right. Zero Black students in the Class of 2024 at TJHSST.
You cannot be an anti-racist and think that discrimination against Asians is the problem here.
Lack of blacks is a problem. Perpetuating white dominance is more of a problem that negatively affects all minorities.
Think long term and big picture. In addition, even if the 17 blacks are admitted, they may make similar calculations and decide not to come to TJ.
Far less likely if TJ is composed of a broader cross section of kids.
Anonymous
09/30/2020 12:32
Subject: Re:10/1 TJ Admissions School Board Meeting Cancelled
As of 12:30, there is nothing on the calendar for 10/2 either.
Watching Brabrand fumble like this is such an embarrassment. Obviously he lacked any ability to manage a school system larger than Lynchburg.
Watching Brabrand fumble like this is such an embarrassment. Obviously he lacked any ability to manage a school system larger than Lynchburg.