Anonymous
Post 09/24/2020 00:50     Subject: I understand the need for "Empowering Males of Color", but the tone of this is exclusive offensive
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, after centuries of oppression including the present day, this is the least people can do for people of color.


Seriously. I'm first generation immigrant (came here for college) and I googled pictures of lynching. It was beyond horrifying. Are you offended by this!?
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2020 00:45     Subject: I understand the need for "Empowering Males of Color", but the tone of this is exclusive offensive
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Anonymous wrote:Meh, I lean far more center than left, and this doesn’t bother me. It’s sort of like HBCU’s. I think it’s a good thing they exist. It’s about building community for these kids. It’s an extra. I don’t see the issue.


HBCUs are open to everyone.


As are our schools. But this is an extracurricular activity geared to one audience. I don’t see the big deal.


An extracurricular activity sponsored and promoted by a publicly-funded institution with an explicit invitation only to certain races is not “open to everyone.” Just to be clear.


It is concerning and it is illegal. But now is not the time.


Just to be explicitly clear anyone can go but white kids aren’t the target. If your child doesn’t have autism would they go to a workshop about autism in the workforce? Which DCPS schools do. If you aren’t autistic you could go but know you’re not the target.

Stop acting like whiteness is being excluded and targeted, it’s very telling and disgusting.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 23:40     Subject: I understand the need for "Empowering Males of Color", but the tone of this is exclusive offensive
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, so, it is exclusive. Because it's a safe space for students of color.

Read up on this:
https://arrow-journal.org/why-people-of-color-need-spaces-without-white-people/

If your daughter was raped or sexual harassed, wouldn't you want her to be able to attend a support group or meeting with others like her? Or would you want all the dudes or maybe even the rapists to be invited. No. She could be more productive and have a more healing experience if it were a safe space, with people like her, and ONLY people like her who share her experience.

I can only assume you think JK Rowlings' stance on transgender women and spaces is reasonable. I mean, I think it is, but it's not en vogue to agree.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 22:54     Subject: I understand the need for "Empowering Males of Color", but the tone of this is exclusive offensive
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meh, I lean far more center than left, and this doesn’t bother me. It’s sort of like HBCU’s. I think it’s a good thing they exist. It’s about building community for these kids. It’s an extra. I don’t see the issue.


HBCUs are open to everyone.


As are our schools. But this is an extracurricular activity geared to one audience. I don’t see the big deal.


An extracurricular activity sponsored and promoted by a publicly-funded institution with an explicit invitation only to certain races is not “open to everyone.” Just to be clear.


It is concerning and it is illegal. But now is not the time.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 22:48     Subject: I understand the need for "Empowering Males of Color", but the tone of this is exclusive offensive
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Anonymous wrote:Well, in this country we have decided that public institutions like schools should not discriminate based on race. Obviously, in the past this didn't happen. But I'm not sure the answer is to formalize the practice of excluding kids based on race. What happens when a group of white parents, perhaps who are a minority in a particular district, ask to hold a similar event. Makes it kind of difficult to say "no" even though that seems crazy.



No actually it makes it easy, NO.

I’d simple tell them it’s not equitable. It’s time to get a lesson in history. If parents don’t like it, choose a red state or majority white state. They are LITERALLY EVERYWHERE.

This attitude is honestly an example of white privilege.


Discrimination is illegal in public schools.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 22:27     Subject: I understand the need for "Empowering Males of Color", but the tone of this is exclusive offensive
Anonymous wrote:Well, in this country we have decided that public institutions like schools should not discriminate based on race. Obviously, in the past this didn't happen. But I'm not sure the answer is to formalize the practice of excluding kids based on race. What happens when a group of white parents, perhaps who are a minority in a particular district, ask to hold a similar event. Makes it kind of difficult to say "no" even though that seems crazy.



No actually it makes it easy, NO.

I’d simple tell them it’s not equitable. It’s time to get a lesson in history. If parents don’t like it, choose a red state or majority white state. They are LITERALLY EVERYWHERE.

This attitude is honestly an example of white privilege.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 22:23     Subject: I understand the need for "Empowering Males of Color", but the tone of this is exclusive offensive
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Anonymous wrote:I don't think DCPS should be hosting events that exclude some students. I think that creating events that highlight diversity but are inclusive would be better. Private organizations and non-profits could host events that specifically cater to a demographic.


+1


Students of color are excluded of things their whole lives. If white students want to feel empowered they can easily find it, white faces are everywhere, white achievements are shoved to the forefront.

If you find this offensive take your all lives matter BS and move to Alabama. DC is the wrong city for you.

I suppose it’s because it has to do with black and brown kids that irks you. If it was an event for kids with special needs you could still come into the space.

Not every space is for white people and it’s ok. This is not about equality, it’s about equity. Learn the difference and you’ll know why this event is ok.


How? Where? In DC (DC area) I have never seen or heard of "only white students are invited".


It seems you don’t understand white privilege, institutionalized racism, or just plain racism. This isn’t the place where I’d explain but do some research. Also look at who the most popular social media stars are and how much more quickly they rise. Tik tok is known for basing popularity on skin tone.

Apps like tik tok, instagram, YouTube,etc might seem insignificant to us as adults but to these kids it’s everything.

Also white people don't need a sign that say ‘only white people’ if they only want that, it’s their attitudes that makes it abundantly clear.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 22:12     Subject: I understand the need for "Empowering Males of Color", but the tone of this is exclusive offensive
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't think DCPS should be hosting events that exclude some students. I think that creating events that highlight diversity but are inclusive would be better. Private organizations and non-profits could host events that specifically cater to a demographic.


+1


Students of color are excluded of things their whole lives. If white students want to feel empowered they can easily find it, white faces are everywhere, white achievements are shoved to the forefront.

If you find this offensive take your all lives matter BS and move to Alabama. DC is the wrong city for you.

I suppose it’s because it has to do with black and brown kids that irks you. If it was an event for kids with special needs you could still come into the space.

Not every space is for white people and it’s ok. This is not about equality, it’s about equity. Learn the difference and you’ll know why this event is ok.


How? Where? In DC (DC area) I have never seen or heard of "only white students are invited".
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 22:07     Subject: I understand the need for "Empowering Males of Color", but the tone of this is exclusive offensive
Well, in this country we have decided that public institutions like schools should not discriminate based on race. Obviously, in the past this didn't happen. But I'm not sure the answer is to formalize the practice of excluding kids based on race. What happens when a group of white parents, perhaps who are a minority in a particular district, ask to hold a similar event. Makes it kind of difficult to say "no" even though that seems crazy.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 21:22     Subject: Re:I understand the need for "Empowering Males of Color", but the tone of this is exclusive offensive
Do all POC kids get included or is it only Black kids?





Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 20:58     Subject: I understand the need for "Empowering Males of Color", but the tone of this is exclusive offensive
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't think DCPS should be hosting events that exclude some students. I think that creating events that highlight diversity but are inclusive would be better. Private organizations and non-profits could host events that specifically cater to a demographic.


+1


Students of color are excluded of things their whole lives. If white students want to feel empowered they can easily find it, white faces are everywhere, white achievements are shoved to the forefront.

If you find this offensive take your all lives matter BS and move to Alabama. DC is the wrong city for you.

I suppose it’s because it has to do with black and brown kids that irks you. If it was an event for kids with special needs you could still come into the space.

Not every space is for white people and it’s ok. This is not about equality, it’s about equity. Learn the difference and you’ll know why this event is ok.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 20:55     Subject: I understand the need for "Empowering Males of Color", but the tone of this is exclusive offensive
Whenever I see white moms demanding an explanation I am reminded of this clip.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QO15S3WC9pg

They don’t understand yet, that’s it’s their privilege that allows them to demand that everything be explained to them.

It’s embarrassing.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 20:48     Subject: I understand the need for "Empowering Males of Color", but the tone of this is exclusive offensive
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meh, I lean far more center than left, and this doesn’t bother me. It’s sort of like HBCU’s. I think it’s a good thing they exist. It’s about building community for these kids. It’s an extra. I don’t see the issue.


HBCUs are open to everyone.


As are our schools. But this is an extracurricular activity geared to one audience. I don’t see the big deal.


An extracurricular activity sponsored and promoted by a publicly-funded institution with an explicit invitation only to certain races is not “open to everyone.” Just to be clear.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 19:11     Subject: Re:I understand the need for "Empowering Males of Color", but the tone of this is exclusive offensive
Anonymous wrote:I don't have a problem with this, but they should have added a line saying all students are welcome.

I know from experience that people get upset when you focus. I ran a woman's group at work for years. Females have different challenges in the work place and we focused on those. One man complained and wanted us to end it, so I added that anyone can join. If a man wants to hear about breast feeding at the office or the glass ceiling they should feel free to join.

A DCPS student who does not fit the focus group
may find that nothing applies to them, but they should be invited.


No. They should not. This should remain a safe space for people with shared experiences. Can POC have NOTHING in this country??
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 19:10     Subject: I understand the need for "Empowering Males of Color", but the tone of this is exclusive offensive
Yeah, so, it is exclusive. Because it's a safe space for students of color.

Read up on this:
https://arrow-journal.org/why-people-of-color-need-spaces-without-white-people/

If your daughter was raped or sexual harassed, wouldn't you want her to be able to attend a support group or meeting with others like her? Or would you want all the dudes or maybe even the rapists to be invited. No. She could be more productive and have a more healing experience if it were a safe space, with people like her, and ONLY people like her who share her experience.