Anonymous wrote:We also have very low rates but no one is allowed to go back, due to a combination of a laissez-faire, beholden-to-interest-groups governor and a very strong and hysterical teacher's union (we are in the PNW). So bars, gyms, indoor dining, and childcare are open, but schools (including private schools), playgrounds, athletic fields, and outdoor swimming pools are not. It is maddening. No one has the children's best interest first.

Fellow PNWer here. The situation is ridiculous. We have a packed brewery down the block from us but my child’s huge campus can’t open. It pains me that Gymnastics gyms and indoor soccer places are going to host all-day virtual school supervision, but our private school says it is too risky, legally, to open. Worse yet, my kid is at a preschool-8th grade school. The preschool classes actually can and will meet in-person because they are technically classified as a daycare due to mandatory accreditation. So preschool families who are paying 1/3rd the tuition of Kindergarten-8th grade families will get to have in-person school and childcare, but I have to sit next to my kid for hours of daily Zooms and pay for childcare at home. And our contracts were due in February, so we didn’t exactly make an informed choice.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an RN married to an MD and work with Covid patients. I get the risk. My husband had a long-standing patient in his 50's (no pre-existing conditions) die of the virus this week. It's not a joke.

BUT my Facebook and Instagram is littered with pictures from across the country of kids going back to school: Georgia, Texas, Tennessee, Colorado, South Carolina, North Carolina, Utah.
I have dozens of friends whose kids are back in school.
Public and private.

It's maddening that we have between 25-50% of their rates of infection here in DC and our kids are home interminably. I have no read hope that anyone will go back in 20-21.

I'm so torn. I get the risk. I am jealous beyond belief that much of the rest of the country is just sending their kids in 9-3pm each day.

Troll. Anyone in the medical community understands why we are not in school. Those other places you mentioned are Trumper's or Trumpland how ever you want to spin it. We will go back, no one wants this but we know the score.

Completely fals, spouse is a doctor and the many health care professionals we know all are in favor of returning to in person school. It’s the teachers and other non medical people who are opposed.

OP here. Spouse is a doctor and most of our friends are doctors. The ones I saw on Facebook TODAY who are sending their kids in person:

family practice doctor in Lancaster PA.
pediatric pulmonologist in Birmingham AL
cardiologist in Denver
peds ER doctor in Houston
cardiologist in Knoxville
peds ICU doctor in Nashville

Yes, it’s maddening to know they’re creating new hotspots, despite scientific recommendations that schools not ipen in person in such conditions.

I’m French and are very much against the government’s decision to reopen schools, without even requiring masks for kids under 11. It’s criminal negligence on their part.

Yes. DH and I grew up in the upper Midwest. Tons and tons of back to school pics already for our MN and WI friends (and these states both have Dem Governors and are blue/purple/ish). Not all schools- but most privates, and publics in many many areas (not all). Their covid rates are not all that low either, last time I checked. It is maddening.

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone who says that schools are not experiencing outbreaks or closures, here is a database:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQSD9mm5HTXhxAiHabZA6BPUByWBlP5HZ2jfOPEeGZkMB0ZFsmFBL5orqjIq22mjFNZ7n-11ObCylGn/pubhtml?fbclid=IwAR2tJ8yDVehGpxoP97Cco5HYAxoN014opwwm6uYt4s3E2xDr_8u9KF_LlgI&_ga=2.134010894.1896452270.1598377751-430072279.1598377751#
Seems like you are misinformed.

These numbers are minuscule, seems you are the one who is misinformed.

You remind me of the people back in March who claimed that covid-19 was no worse than the flu by comparing the two months of data covid to a year-long data set of flu.

Fast forward to 6 months later and we now know that more people die of covid-19 tan the flu.

So in this situation right now it's August. we've already seen that schools will have to shut down and switch to virtual learning when there's exposure. The question is how many and how often.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an RN married to an MD and work with Covid patients. I get the risk. My husband had a long-standing patient in his 50's (no pre-existing conditions) die of the virus this week. It's not a joke.

BUT my Facebook and Instagram is littered with pictures from across the country of kids going back to school: Georgia, Texas, Tennessee, Colorado, South Carolina, North Carolina, Utah.
I have dozens of friends whose kids are back in school.
Public and private.

It's maddening that we have between 25-50% of their rates of infection here in DC and our kids are home interminably. I have no read hope that anyone will go back in 20-21.

I'm so torn. I get the risk. I am jealous beyond belief that much of the rest of the country is just sending their kids in 9-3pm each day.

Troll. Anyone in the medical community understands why we are not in school. Those other places you mentioned are Trumper's or Trumpland how ever you want to spin it. We will go back, no one wants this but we know the score.

Completely fals, spouse is a doctor and the many health care professionals we know all are in favor of returning to in person school. It’s the teachers and other non medical people who are opposed.

Let’s just say it, the teacher’s associations have the mst pull in blue states, so schools aren’t opening where conditions are relatively safe, and districts developed extensive plans for hybrid. In red states that should be closed, teachers don’t have the leverage.

So we are stuck with the perverse situation where schools are closed where they should be open, and Vice versa. Moreover, the private schools in dc and moco are also hostage victims.

We live in Baltimore and our private schools are open, with a phase in. Little kids in the building on September 1.

Anonymous wrote:For everyone who says that schools are not experiencing outbreaks or closures, here is a database:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQSD9mm5HTXhxAiHabZA6BPUByWBlP5HZ2jfOPEeGZkMB0ZFsmFBL5orqjIq22mjFNZ7n-11ObCylGn/pubhtml?fbclid=IwAR2tJ8yDVehGpxoP97Cco5HYAxoN014opwwm6uYt4s3E2xDr_8u9KF_LlgI&_ga=2.134010894.1896452270.1598377751-430072279.1598377751#
Seems like you are misinformed.

These numbers are minuscule, seems you are the one who is misinformed.

We live in TX. Our private has given families the option of returning or DL. We chose DL and I am completely shocked that we are in the small minority who chose DL. It seems like everyone is going back.

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Anonymous wrote:And many of those schools are already having outbreaks and having to revert back to remote learning, a week or two weeks into the school year. This looks like success to you? That's pretty sad.

No, they're not actually closing. Most of the schools i Have friends attending have not had any cases so far or if they have a case they have quarantined that class (and only that class). They haven't closed the school or the district.

I'm not saying this is good or smart but that it'a happening and it feels like we are living on a different planet although we have 25% of the cases. It's just weird.

I'm curious about just quarantining a class. If kids take the bus to and from school then every family on the bus should also be quarantined.

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Anonymous wrote:Our kids are the playing pieces in some political game in the DMV. They are willing to ruin another school year and make kids suffer more for what??

Um, kids in the DMV are not the only ones distance learning. We live in a small New England town where our covid19-positive rate is 1% with 8 cases in our community, and our district went 100% remote.

Political motivations aren’t exclusive to DC.

We also have very low rates but no one is allowed to go back, due to a combination of a laissez-faire, beholden-to-interest-groups governor and a very strong and hysterical teacher's union (we are in the PNW). So bars, gyms, indoor dining, and childcare are open, but schools (including private schools), playgrounds, athletic fields, and outdoor swimming pools are not. It is maddening. No one has the children's best interest first.

Anonymous wrote:Our kids are the playing pieces in some political game in the DMV. They are willing to ruin another school year and make kids suffer more for what??

Um, kids in the DMV are not the only ones distance learning. We live in a small New England town where our covid19-positive rate is 1% with 8 cases in our community, and our district went 100% remote.

Anonymous wrote:I agree. Even if I know it's safer, it's just hard to see other kids going back, even if it is only hybrid. That would have been my choice for my elementary kids. What's especially hard was seeing my neighbors pictures of all 4 of her kids going off to private school this morning (5 days a week in NOVA).

Yes most of my friends are in catholic school or put some kids in this year. Stinks.

I agree. Even if I know it's safer, it's just hard to see other kids going back, even if it is only hybrid. That would have been my choice for my elementary kids. What's especially hard was seeing my neighbors pictures of all 4 of her kids going off to private school this morning (5 days a week in NOVA).