Anonymous
Post 08/15/2020 13:30     Subject: postal service warns it will not deliver mail-in ballots on time

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm the one who keeps posting about The Big Send (writing letters to voters).

Should this method not be used this year? Should we save all postal resources for ballots?


I actually thought of you and this point. I have no idea.


Hi friend! I emailed them. I'll report back.


I haven't gotten a personal reply yet but their email bot pointed me to this:

A Note About Mail Dates
The effects of “please vote” messages fade quickly, so the best strategy — and the one we have proven to be effective in the past — is to put letters in mailboxes as close as possible to the election without missing it. That said, we recognize adjustments may be needed this year.

To help fine-tune our approach, we’re tracking federal and state lawsuits that may affect absentee deadlines and policies, USPS performance, the availability of Election Day ballot drop boxes, expected turnout by voting method, early voting availability, voter preferences and lessons learned during the primaries, evolving electoral processes, and more for all of our target states. We’re also running an experiment to assess mail times and how they affect GOTV messaging.

Based on the data we’ve gathered so far, there is a good chance we will mail earlier than originally planned. We are collecting more information before deciding by how many days and in which states. We understand and share your concern about this question and will email all of our volunteers once we make an informed decision.

For more on mail dates and the USPS, please see our top 2020 GOTV FAQs.


I got another email from them. They say letters are more effective than phone calls and texts.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2020 13:29     Subject: postal service warns it will not deliver mail-in ballots on time

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you need to vote by mail, request a ballot now. Mail it by OCT 22 at the latest.

Tell everyone you know.

How naïve you are! Many of us know that a dictator would stop at nothing to fake win. Americans still are not sure! It might not even matter if you vote in person. There is a way around those ballots too.


So we should do nothing? We shouldn't vote?
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2020 13:05     Subject: postal service warns it will not deliver mail-in ballots on time

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you need to vote by mail, request a ballot now. Mail it by OCT 22 at the latest.

Tell everyone you know.

How naïve you are! Many of us know that a dictator would stop at nothing to fake win. Americans still are not sure! It might not even matter if you vote in person. There is a way around those ballots too.

Some of us believe he didn’t win in 2016, either.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2020 13:03     Subject: postal service warns it will not deliver mail-in ballots on time

Anonymous wrote:If you need to vote by mail, request a ballot now. Mail it by OCT 22 at the latest.

Tell everyone you know.

How naïve you are! Many of us know that a dictator would stop at nothing to fake win. Americans still are not sure! It might not even matter if you vote in person. There is a way around those ballots too.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2020 13:01     Subject: Re:postal service warns it will not deliver mail-in ballots on time

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

For those of you who are having a nice lazy Saturday at home (which, thanks to the pandemic, is literally most of us) who also support democracy, American, the rule of law and the Constitution, here’s a ten minute activity that can be accomplished right from your couch: emailing the members of the board of governors for the USPS and let them know that you support them removing Louis DeJoy from office and that you support free and fair elections.

(It only took me ten minutes because I used their names in the email, so I had to change all those. I guess it only needs to be a three minute activity if you don’t do that.)

Let them know what this is, that we see it, and that we don’t support the GOP sabotaging (another) election.


What’s the point? Four of the six members are Republican. I’m guessing they are political appointees.

I hear you, and I feel the same way. But at the end of this, I want to be able to say that I did something. As I don’t live in DC where they are actively protesting DeJoy’s house on Connecticut, as I can’t spend that much money on USPS merch (though I am a philatelist, so I am definitely a long term supporter), I am doing something in bringing polite pressure.

Oh and one of the commenters down thread at one of those linked tweets said: these kinds of people HATE that kind of visibility. They can be cowed into doing things.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2020 12:51     Subject: Re:postal service warns it will not deliver mail-in ballots on time

Anonymous wrote:

For those of you who are having a nice lazy Saturday at home (which, thanks to the pandemic, is literally most of us) who also support democracy, American, the rule of law and the Constitution, here’s a ten minute activity that can be accomplished right from your couch: emailing the members of the board of governors for the USPS and let them know that you support them removing Louis DeJoy from office and that you support free and fair elections.

(It only took me ten minutes because I used their names in the email, so I had to change all those. I guess it only needs to be a three minute activity if you don’t do that.)

Let them know what this is, that we see it, and that we don’t support the GOP sabotaging (another) election.


What’s the point? Four of the six members are Republican. I’m guessing they are political appointees.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2020 12:06     Subject: Re:postal service warns it will not deliver mail-in ballots on time



For those of you who are having a nice lazy Saturday at home (which, thanks to the pandemic, is literally most of us) who also support democracy, American, the rule of law and the Constitution, here’s a ten minute activity that can be accomplished right from your couch: emailing the members of the board of governors for the USPS and let them know that you support them removing Louis DeJoy from office and that you support free and fair elections.

(It only took me ten minutes because I used their names in the email, so I had to change all those. I guess it only needs to be a three minute activity if you don’t do that.)

Let them know what this is, that we see it, and that we don’t support the GOP sabotaging (another) election.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2020 10:30     Subject: postal service warns it will not deliver mail-in ballots on time

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm the one who keeps posting about The Big Send (writing letters to voters).

Should this method not be used this year? Should we save all postal resources for ballots?


I actually thought of you and this point. I have no idea.


Hi friend! I emailed them. I'll report back.


I haven't gotten a personal reply yet but their email bot pointed me to this:

A Note About Mail Dates
The effects of “please vote” messages fade quickly, so the best strategy — and the one we have proven to be effective in the past — is to put letters in mailboxes as close as possible to the election without missing it. That said, we recognize adjustments may be needed this year.

To help fine-tune our approach, we’re tracking federal and state lawsuits that may affect absentee deadlines and policies, USPS performance, the availability of Election Day ballot drop boxes, expected turnout by voting method, early voting availability, voter preferences and lessons learned during the primaries, evolving electoral processes, and more for all of our target states. We’re also running an experiment to assess mail times and how they affect GOTV messaging.

Based on the data we’ve gathered so far, there is a good chance we will mail earlier than originally planned. We are collecting more information before deciding by how many days and in which states. We understand and share your concern about this question and will email all of our volunteers once we make an informed decision.

For more on mail dates and the USPS, please see our top 2020 GOTV FAQs.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2020 10:22     Subject: Re:postal service warns it will not deliver mail-in ballots on time

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:14,000 boxes were removed during Obama administration. It is a common practice and makes sense if they are not being used. It takes time to go check the boxes. But, in any case they are ceasing removal for now.
Ever sense an area mailbox was vandalized at a local post office, DH always walks in to mail important pieces. Others, we drop in the drive through mailbox. We NEVER put outgoing mail in our mailbox because of local mail theft--except for mail that is misdelivered.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/08/14/people-are-freaking-out-about-mailbox-removals-postal-service-says-its-routine/


Sure, but the context and timing now is unacceptable. We didn’t have a pandemic when Obama was in office. People are now more dependent on the mail and not everyone can afford Amazon or UPS or Fed Ex to send and purchase things. My mom is dependent on her prescription service which is through USPS.

Never mind that Trump has explicitly said he is undercutting USPS to serve his election chances.


We aactually did have a pandemic when Obama was in office. Two actually. They were just managed effectively so as to avoid a major disruption in our daily lives.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2020 10:21     Subject: Re:postal service warns it will not deliver mail-in ballots on time

Anonymous wrote:14,000 boxes were removed during Obama administration. It is a common practice and makes sense if they are not being used. It takes time to go check the boxes. But, in any case they are ceasing removal for now.
Ever sense an area mailbox was vandalized at a local post office, DH always walks in to mail important pieces. Others, we drop in the drive through mailbox. We NEVER put outgoing mail in our mailbox because of local mail theft--except for mail that is misdelivered.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/08/14/people-are-freaking-out-about-mailbox-removals-postal-service-says-its-routine/


While they are ceasing the removal of the blue boxes, there is no mention of the sorting machines that were removed and destroyed. Those need to be replaced IMMEDIATELY.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2020 10:19     Subject: Re:postal service warns it will not deliver mail-in ballots on time

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:14,000 boxes were removed during Obama administration. It is a common practice and makes sense if they are not being used. It takes time to go check the boxes. But, in any case they are ceasing removal for now.
Ever sense an area mailbox was vandalized at a local post office, DH always walks in to mail important pieces. Others, we drop in the drive through mailbox. We NEVER put outgoing mail in our mailbox because of local mail theft--except for mail that is misdelivered.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/08/14/people-are-freaking-out-about-mailbox-removals-postal-service-says-its-routine/


Sure, but the context and timing now is unacceptable. We didn’t have a pandemic when Obama was in office. People are now more dependent on the mail and not everyone can afford Amazon or UPS or Fed Ex to send and purchase things. My mom is dependent on her prescription service which is through USPS.

Never mind that Trump has explicitly said he is undercutting USPS to serve his election chances.

+1
Why should I ascribe neutral motives to someone who has said their motives are negative?
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2020 10:16     Subject: Re:postal service warns it will not deliver mail-in ballots on time

Anonymous wrote:14,000 boxes were removed during Obama administration. It is a common practice and makes sense if they are not being used. It takes time to go check the boxes. But, in any case they are ceasing removal for now.
Ever sense an area mailbox was vandalized at a local post office, DH always walks in to mail important pieces. Others, we drop in the drive through mailbox. We NEVER put outgoing mail in our mailbox because of local mail theft--except for mail that is misdelivered.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/08/14/people-are-freaking-out-about-mailbox-removals-postal-service-says-its-routine/


Sure, but the context and timing now is unacceptable. We didn’t have a pandemic when Obama was in office. People are now more dependent on the mail and not everyone can afford Amazon or UPS or Fed Ex to send and purchase things. My mom is dependent on her prescription service which is through USPS.

Never mind that Trump has explicitly said he is undercutting USPS to serve his election chances.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2020 10:11     Subject: postal service warns it will not deliver mail-in ballots on time

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm the one who keeps posting about The Big Send (writing letters to voters).

Should this method not be used this year? Should we save all postal resources for ballots?


I actually thought of you and this point. I have no idea.


Hi friend! I emailed them. I'll report back.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2020 10:11     Subject: Re:postal service warns it will not deliver mail-in ballots on time

14,000 boxes were removed during Obama administration. It is a common practice and makes sense if they are not being used. It takes time to go check the boxes. But, in any case they are ceasing removal for now.
Ever sense an area mailbox was vandalized at a local post office, DH always walks in to mail important pieces. Others, we drop in the drive through mailbox. We NEVER put outgoing mail in our mailbox because of local mail theft--except for mail that is misdelivered.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/08/14/people-are-freaking-out-about-mailbox-removals-postal-service-says-its-routine/
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2020 10:07     Subject: postal service warns it will not deliver mail-in ballots on time

Anonymous wrote:I'm the one who keeps posting about The Big Send (writing letters to voters).

Should this method not be used this year? Should we save all postal resources for ballots?


I actually thought of you and this point. I have no idea.