Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 13:01     Subject: Did this happened in DC.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what happened?


As I understand it, the woman in the car drove to Wisconsin Ave and encountered the protest. She wanted to get away from the crowd, so she drove thru a gas station as this would allow her to access another street. The crowd moved to keep her boxed in and unable to drive thru the gas station. They wanted the driver to be “disrupted” by the protest. The streets in Georgetown are very narrow, so there likely would not be an opportunity to make a u-turn and go another route. She apparently drove slow and bumped protestors, who were demanding that she stop her car. It seems like she got a block away, encountered the police, and that’s when everyone was detained.

We live near here and the protest passed in front of our house last night around 9pm. It was pretty small - maybe only 20-30 people. They were blasting music, chanting, and generally peaceful. I have no issue with the protests or marching in streets.

My only issue is that they wouldn’t allow this woman to leave peacefully. They purposefully boxed her in and wouldn’t let her go another direction, away from the protest. That’s BS and just causes more problems.


There is a recording of a woman who was driving in Fredericksburg with her toddler in the car and she ended up on the wrong street where there was protesting. She got boxed in by protesters who were hitting her car. She called 911 as she feared for her toddler's life. The 911 call is on the internet but I could not readily find it. The 911 dispatcher told
her the police could not assist her and she would have to call the mayor's office. The driver started crying as protesters were pounding on her car. She was able to inch forward
and finally turn off but I'm sure it was scary and an honest mistake by the driver.


PP here:
That 911 operator was an idiot. If you’re caught in a protest, you pull over the car, turn off your engine, and lock the doors. You sit there for 10-15 minutes until the protest moves on. They were slamming on her car because she was moving closer to pedestrian bodies and moving with the crowd. Just because you feel nervous, doesn’t give a driver the right to continue driving into a sea of pedestrians.

This probably should be explicitly taught in drivers’ Ed in the DC area.

In the Georgetown incident last night, it seems the issue is that protestors kept moving with her car so she couldn’t move away from the crowd. It was a dumb move by the protestors.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 13:00     Subject: Did this happened in DC.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I need to vote for Trump.

This is crazy.

It’s like the satire account Titania McCrath is mainstream.

Sometimes it’s just too much to handle.


Well, before you head to the polls, don't forget about the Trump voter who actually ran over a crowd on purpose and killed a woman.


If you're talking about the Seattle incident, she was yet another of the lovely "protesters" who took it on herself to take over the street.


How quickly you forget Charlotte.


Yes, lets focus on something for 3 years ago and hang onto it forever when the current cities are being destroyed and there have been MULTIPLE deaths as a direct result of this current lunacy. But you keep bitterly clinging to the one death from 3 years ago, knock yourself out, no agenda there or anything, innit?
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 12:58     Subject: Did this happened in DC.

Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 12:57     Subject: Did this happened in DC.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I need to vote for Trump.

This is crazy.

It’s like the satire account Titania McCrath is mainstream.

Sometimes it’s just too much to handle.


Because if he wins things will calm down? You are a special kind of stupid.


DP.
I, for one, do not wish to reward these rioters, socialists, and anarchists with their goal.


+1. Joe is so weak, his strings are being pulled from the left. A Biden win would be a victory for this set.


Zzzzz. All of this is happening in Trump’s America. Why doesn’t he start a dialogue with protestors?


Haha. Good one. You don't "dialogue" with fruitcakes, PP. Haven't you learned that from all your time on DCUM?


Nationwide protests are Trump’s carnage. He owns it, just like how he owns COVID.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 12:56     Subject: Re:Did this happened in DC.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The nature of protestors is that you won’t agree with all of them. But that doesn’t make it okay to drive through a roadblock or use your car to move people. You gotta just go another way. And listen, it sucks. I recently spent 45 min trapped on NY ave because of some sort of skateboard protest in the 3rd st tunnel. But that doesn’t mean I would have been justified to plow through people with my car. You can argue in the appropriate public forum about when and how police should close or clear roads during protests but you can’t decide to drive through people if they’re blocking you. Pedestrians have the right of way even when they’re blocking the road and inconveniencing you.


Nope. The nature of protest is you get a permit. I have protested many times, with a permit. If you dont get a permit and block people going about their business, you are a jerk.


Even if you get a permit you may be a jerk to some people. I don't really like the road races that get permits and legally tie up access around town. But that's my problem, not theirs.

Either way, unless you're MPD you don't get to decide what to do about it.


Except for a march, most permitted demonstrations would not be permitted to block roads. You would be in a park or asked to keep moving on a sidewalk. Blocking roads is a jerk move, and illegal. A lot of people with a lot of causes live in and visit DC. If everyone protested unpermitted it would wreak havoc on daily life when it resumes its flow.


Hello, have you ever visited DC? EVERYTHING blocks roads here. Honestly the most irritating one is the Rock an Roll marathon but all the marathons are a big PITA for drivers. Protests also. Motorcycle parades, whatever. The point is I don't get to drive through them if I decide I don't like them or if they don't have a permit.


All of the things you list have permits. This march, such as it was, did not.

Even the ACLU, that noted right-wing group, says what these protesters did to this woman was wrong:

"You don’t need a permit to march in the streets or on sidewalks, as long as marchers don’t obstruct car or pedestrian traffic. If you don’t have a permit, police officers can ask you to move to the side of a street or sidewalk to let others pass or for safety reasons."

https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/protesters-rights/
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 12:48     Subject: Did this happened in DC.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I need to vote for Trump.

This is crazy.

It’s like the satire account Titania McCrath is mainstream.

Sometimes it’s just too much to handle.


Because if he wins things will calm down? You are a special kind of stupid.


DP.
I, for one, do not wish to reward these rioters, socialists, and anarchists with their goal.


+1. Joe is so weak, his strings are being pulled from the left. A Biden win would be a victory for this set.


Zzzzz. All of this is happening in Trump’s America. Why doesn’t he start a dialogue with protestors?


Haha. Good one. You don't "dialogue" with fruitcakes, PP. Haven't you learned that from all your time on DCUM?
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 12:39     Subject: Did this happened in DC.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what happened?


As I understand it, the woman in the car drove to Wisconsin Ave and encountered the protest. She wanted to get away from the crowd, so she drove thru a gas station as this would allow her to access another street. The crowd moved to keep her boxed in and unable to drive thru the gas station. They wanted the driver to be “disrupted” by the protest. The streets in Georgetown are very narrow, so there likely would not be an opportunity to make a u-turn and go another route. She apparently drove slow and bumped protestors, who were demanding that she stop her car. It seems like she got a block away, encountered the police, and that’s when everyone was detained.

We live near here and the protest passed in front of our house last night around 9pm. It was pretty small - maybe only 20-30 people. They were blasting music, chanting, and generally peaceful. I have no issue with the protests or marching in streets.

My only issue is that they wouldn’t allow this woman to leave peacefully. They purposefully boxed her in and wouldn’t let her go another direction, away from the protest. That’s BS and just causes more problems.


There is a recording of a woman who was driving in Fredericksburg with her toddler in the car and she ended up on the wrong street where there was protesting. She got boxed in by protesters who were hitting her car. She called 911 as she feared for her toddler's life. The 911 call is on the internet but I could not readily find it. The 911 dispatcher told
her the police could not assist her and she would have to call the mayor's office. The driver started crying as protesters were pounding on her car. She was able to inch forward
and finally turn off but I'm sure it was scary and an honest mistake by the driver.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 12:31     Subject: Did this happened in DC.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I need to vote for Trump.

This is crazy.

It’s like the satire account Titania McCrath is mainstream.

Sometimes it’s just too much to handle.


Because if he wins things will calm down? You are a special kind of stupid.


DP.
I, for one, do not wish to reward these rioters, socialists, and anarchists with their goal.


+1. Joe is so weak, his strings are being pulled from the left. A Biden win would be a victory for this set.


Zzzzz. All of this is happening in Trump’s America. Why doesn’t he start a dialogue with protestors?
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 12:23     Subject: Did this happened in DC.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I need to vote for Trump.

This is crazy.

It’s like the satire account Titania McCrath is mainstream.

Sometimes it’s just too much to handle.


Because if he wins things will calm down? You are a special kind of stupid.


DP.
I, for one, do not wish to reward these rioters, socialists, and anarchists with their goal.


+1. Joe is so weak, his strings are being pulled from the left. A Biden win would be a victory for this set.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 12:21     Subject: Did this happened in DC.

Anonymous wrote:So what happened?


As I understand it, the woman in the car drove to Wisconsin Ave and encountered the protest. She wanted to get away from the crowd, so she drove thru a gas station as this would allow her to access another street. The crowd moved to keep her boxed in and unable to drive thru the gas station. They wanted the driver to be “disrupted” by the protest. The streets in Georgetown are very narrow, so there likely would not be an opportunity to make a u-turn and go another route. She apparently drove slow and bumped protestors, who were demanding that she stop her car. It seems like she got a block away, encountered the police, and that’s when everyone was detained.

We live near here and the protest passed in front of our house last night around 9pm. It was pretty small - maybe only 20-30 people. They were blasting music, chanting, and generally peaceful. I have no issue with the protests or marching in streets.

My only issue is that they wouldn’t allow this woman to leave peacefully. They purposefully boxed her in and wouldn’t let her go another direction, away from the protest. That’s BS and just causes more problems.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 11:56     Subject: Re:Did this happened in DC.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The nature of protestors is that you won’t agree with all of them. But that doesn’t make it okay to drive through a roadblock or use your car to move people. You gotta just go another way. And listen, it sucks. I recently spent 45 min trapped on NY ave because of some sort of skateboard protest in the 3rd st tunnel. But that doesn’t mean I would have been justified to plow through people with my car. You can argue in the appropriate public forum about when and how police should close or clear roads during protests but you can’t decide to drive through people if they’re blocking you. Pedestrians have the right of way even when they’re blocking the road and inconveniencing you.


Nope. The nature of protest is you get a permit. I have protested many times, with a permit. If you dont get a permit and block people going about their business, you are a jerk.


Even if you get a permit you may be a jerk to some people. I don't really like the road races that get permits and legally tie up access around town. But that's my problem, not theirs.

Either way, unless you're MPD you don't get to decide what to do about it.


Except for a march, most permitted demonstrations would not be permitted to block roads. You would be in a park or asked to keep moving on a sidewalk. Blocking roads is a jerk move, and illegal. A lot of people with a lot of causes live in and visit DC. If everyone protested unpermitted it would wreak havoc on daily life when it resumes its flow.


Hello, have you ever visited DC? EVERYTHING blocks roads here. Honestly the most irritating one is the Rock an Roll marathon but all the marathons are a big PITA for drivers. Protests also. Motorcycle parades, whatever. The point is I don't get to drive through them if I decide I don't like them or if they don't have a permit.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 11:52     Subject: Did this happened in DC.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I need to vote for Trump.

This is crazy.

It’s like the satire account Titania McCrath is mainstream.

Sometimes it’s just too much to handle.


Because if he wins things will calm down? You are a special kind of stupid.


DP.
I, for one, do not wish to reward these rioters, socialists, and anarchists with their goal.


So you want to reward neo-nazis and KKK members by voting for Trump?

Or maybe, hold on, try thinking for yourself! There's just no contest, Biden is the only reasonable choice.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 11:26     Subject: Did this happened in DC.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I need to vote for Trump.

This is crazy.

It’s like the satire account Titania McCrath is mainstream.

Sometimes it’s just too much to handle.


Because if he wins things will calm down? You are a special kind of stupid.


DP.
I, for one, do not wish to reward these rioters, socialists, and anarchists with their goal.


Good news! They hate Joe Biden too. Make sure to vote for him if you want to piss them off.

Also, I'm voting for president based on more than pissing people off. The job is kind of important.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 11:06     Subject: Did this happened in DC.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I need to vote for Trump.

This is crazy.

It’s like the satire account Titania McCrath is mainstream.

Sometimes it’s just too much to handle.


Because if he wins things will calm down? You are a special kind of stupid.


DP.
I, for one, do not wish to reward these rioters, socialists, and anarchists with their goal.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 10:46     Subject: Did this happened in DC.

Anonymous wrote:I need to vote for Trump.

This is crazy.

It’s like the satire account Titania McCrath is mainstream.

Sometimes it’s just too much to handle.


Because if he wins things will calm down? You are a special kind of stupid.