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Anonymous wrote:Most homeschoolers I know have one commonality in that they are interested in segregating for a variety of reasons. Religion. Elitism. Social reasons. Special Needs. Whatever the reason, it is clear they want to be around less people and have more control over their children's lives. They aren't as interested in mixing with society. Whether that is good or bad is up to the interpreter.

This is certainly true for many black homeschoolers. They have real, legitimate needs for this segregation, in that the schools are downright hostile and bad for black children. Whether its white teachers and administrators who don't see or treat their black students with tenderness and care, a racist curriculum that focuses solely on the self-esteem of white boys, a focus on unfair and strict punishment for black children, severely low expectations on them, or because of white flight, them being forced into a social atmosphere with either 100% poor black children with pathological behaviors of poverty or tokens around 100% well-off white kids who are cold and demeaning towards them, and no in between.

I understand your preference for homeschooling, but where did you get this? I don't think your knowledge of public school curricula is up-to-date. It still is subpar, but not for this reason.

It depends on the curriculum.

I have done a lot of purchasing and reviewing of curricula, especially in the social sciences and science. Please share if there are racist curricula, so that we can avoid and so we can advocate for better. Most public school curricula are not geared toward the success of boys, black or white.

When over 80% of persons featured in the curriculum are white men, how would you define it?

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Most homeschoolers I know have one commonality in that they are interested in segregating for a variety of reasons. Religion. Elitism. Social reasons. Special Needs. Whatever the reason, it is clear they want to be around less people and have more control over their children's lives. They aren't as interested in mixing with society. Whether that is good or bad is up to the interpreter.

This is certainly true for many black homeschoolers. They have real, legitimate needs for this segregation, in that the schools are downright hostile and bad for black children. Whether its white teachers and administrators who don't see or treat their black students with tenderness and care, a racist curriculum that focuses solely on the self-esteem of white boys, a focus on unfair and strict punishment for black children, severely low expectations on them, or because of white flight, them being forced into a social atmosphere with either 100% poor black children with pathological behaviors of poverty or tokens around 100% well-off white kids who are cold and demeaning towards them, and no in between.

I understand your preference for homeschooling, but where did you get this? I don't think your knowledge of public school curricula is up-to-date. It still is subpar, but not for this reason.

It depends on the curriculum.

I have done a lot of purchasing and reviewing of curricula, especially in the social sciences and science. Please share if there are racist curricula, so that we can avoid and so we can advocate for better. Most public school curricula are not geared toward the success of boys, black or white.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most homeschoolers I know have one commonality in that they are interested in segregating for a variety of reasons. Religion. Elitism. Social reasons. Special Needs. Whatever the reason, it is clear they want to be around less people and have more control over their children's lives. They aren't as interested in mixing with society. Whether that is good or bad is up to the interpreter.

This is certainly true for many black homeschoolers. They have real, legitimate needs for this segregation, in that the schools are downright hostile and bad for black children. Whether its white teachers and administrators who don't see or treat their black students with tenderness and care, a racist curriculum that focuses solely on the self-esteem of white boys, a focus on unfair and strict punishment for black children, severely low expectations on them, or because of white flight, them being forced into a social atmosphere with either 100% poor black children with pathological behaviors of poverty or tokens around 100% well-off white kids who are cold and demeaning towards them, and no in between.

I understand your preference for homeschooling, but where did you get this? I don't think your knowledge of public school curricula is up-to-date. It still is subpar, but not for this reason.

It depends on the curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:Most homeschoolers I know have one commonality in that they are interested in segregating for a variety of reasons. Religion. Elitism. Social reasons. Special Needs. Whatever the reason, it is clear they want to be around less people and have more control over their children's lives. They aren't as interested in mixing with society. Whether that is good or bad is up to the interpreter.

This is certainly true for many black homeschoolers. They have real, legitimate needs for this segregation, in that the schools are downright hostile and bad for black children. Whether its white teachers and administrators who don't see or treat their black students with tenderness and care, a racist curriculum that focuses solely on the self-esteem of white boys, a focus on unfair and strict punishment for black children, severely low expectations on them, or because of white flight, them being forced into a social atmosphere with either 100% poor black children with pathological behaviors of poverty or tokens around 100% well-off white kids who are cold and demeaning towards them, and no in between.

I understand your preference for homeschooling, but where did you get this? I don't think your knowledge of public school curricula is up-to-date. It still is subpar, but not for this reason.

TBH I've really appreciated the help and advice from some homeschoolers, and they really mean it in a nice way, but sometimes it makes me cringe. There's a real attitude among the people I know that it doesn't matter if your children fall below grade level, only the bare minimum of math is needed, it's okay to blow off school if you're feeling overwhelmed, it's okay to do school just in the mornings and let your kids do whatever they want all afternoon, it's okay that your children don't practice their social skills very much, etc. I've been dismayed by it. Distance learning has opened my eyes to problems with school but also made me concerned about homeschooling families that I thought I knew.

I think you, OP, need to accept that all these different types of homeschoolers exist and are homeschoolers. It's not "bias" to acknowledge that there are problems. I live in Vermont where a lot of people homeschool, and I know many adults who were homeschooled. Some are nice normal people, some are trying to deal with special needs or 2e, some are trying to avoid acknowledging special needs or developmental problems, some are kooks, some just think they're better and smarter, some are trying to protect their children from ideas about gender equality and raise their daughters to have no other option than to SAHM, some are trying to cover up child abuse, some are hippies who are basically just neglecting their kids. All of those people are "homeschoolers" and it isn't bias to acknowledge it. People don't have to define "homeschooling" as "people who homeschool the way you do.

Homeschooling kooks and abusers hurt all homeschoolers, most of all their own children. I'm often dismayed when people place their flexibility and privacy over basic protections to ensure that every child is safe and has a basic education.

https://responsiblehomeschooling.org/

Anonymous wrote:Most homeschoolers I know have one commonality in that they are interested in segregating for a variety of reasons. Religion. Elitism. Social reasons. Special Needs. Whatever the reason, it is clear they want to be around less people and have more control over their children's lives. They aren't as interested in mixing with society. Whether that is good or bad is up to the interpreter.

This is certainly true for many black homeschoolers. They have real, legitimate needs for this segregation, in that the schools are downright hostile and bad for black children. Whether its white teachers and administrators who don't see or treat their black students with tenderness and care, a racist curriculum that focuses solely on the self-esteem of white boys, a focus on unfair and strict punishment for black children, severely low expectations on them, or because of white flight, them being forced into a social atmosphere with either 100% poor black children with pathological behaviors of poverty or tokens around 100% well-off white kids who are cold and demeaning towards them, and no in between.

Anonymous wrote:The question used to be, why do you homeschool? Now I’m being asked, how do I homeschool and can you help me?

I don’t have any bad feelings towards parents making a difficult decision for this school year. I also hope they abandon their bias to homeschooling.

I understand that many homeschoolers suffered negative perceptions from others in the past, but you should also realize that not everyone was looking down on homeschoolers. Most people I know wish they could homeschool. They see it as a privilege, but either felt like they couldn't afford to not have a two income household, or weren't educated enough to know how to begin. They also don't have that type of confidence and executive functioning for that type of work.

I myself always wanted to homeschool, and I did so on and off for my daughter, basically throughout preschool and in the summers and weekends while she attended K-2nd grade. The pandemic was an OPPORTUNITY for me to finally take the plunge full scale. And we could finally make it work beceause we kind of had to, but also because hubby working from home made our lives so much more flexible in order to do so. And I love it. I've always had little unit plans here and there and its a bit freeing to be able to take complete charge, though we are sacrificing income because of it.

Just saying, a lot of people are not being "pushed" into doing it and now starting to respect it. A good amount of people been respected it and only now have the opportunity (and new social supports) to make it work.

I don't really care. It has worked well for our family. My daughter entered UVA at 18 as a junior. At age 16 she was basically "all AP" and did her final 2 years at NVCC where she graduated with a 4.0 and an associates. Her homeschool education was completely irrelevant to UVA.

I have 2 kids at home still and could not possibly put them in public school. They are probably 1.5 years ahead of their peers and in terms of ELA not even in the same league.

Starting in middle school we had to do a lot of subjects via co op so I'd say it eventually morphs into a makeshift private school.

Lots and lots of former teachers homeschool because they saw first hand how bad the public education is and wanted to give their kids the gift of a individualized education.

Anonymous wrote:Most homeschoolers I know have one commonality in that they are interested in segregating for a variety of reasons. Religion. Elitism. Social reasons. Special Needs. Whatever the reason, it is clear they want to be around less people and have more control over their children's lives. They aren't as interested in mixing with society. Whether that is good or bad is up to the interpreter.

I agree with this. It’s less religious nuts and oddballs. Although I understand where that comes from. They are probably the most vocal.

My H and I have advanced degrees. I had considered it in the past but until the pandemic, never went for it. There are multiple reasons I did it, virus, consistency of schooling (don’t want more shutdowns back and forth), one of my children is gifted and special needs and virtual wasn’t working.

I agree for us, I do care for socializing but under these circumstances I can care less. We have the finances for extra tutors or other type of socializing. Schools that are open right now are like prisons. It’s opened my eyes how public schools are failing. My son was doing excellent but he has learned so much more at home. I purchased a legitimate curriculum and supplement with private tutor.