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Anonymous wrote:Tell me there isn't racial bias / discrimination.


"Student with 2 published books, 4.2 GPA and 1560 SAT score rejected by Harvard, MIT, Yale and Princeton"

Link to article below.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/student-2-published-books-4-182005756.html

This kid has better accolades than all of us and 80% of America and still got shafted.

Yield protection. And they weren't wrong, were they?

The problem is the process, not the result, for this kid. And also for AAP admissions, generally. (I don't understand what they're doing now with their new process, and I don't think anyone else does etiher.[b] Maybe it's not much changed, maybe it's totally different. I don't know.)

They’re leaving it up to the elementary schools to determine their own criteria with absolutely no guidance. The school committees are quite literally making up their own criteria on the fly. It’s an absolute mess.

Anonymous wrote:The question is where is the "high WISC"! I agree, a high WISC should end the discussion. But over what threshold? 130, 135, 140? Where's the line?

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Anonymous wrote:These NNAT and COGAT scores are not on the cusp, nor is “frequently observed” in all sections of the GBRS. You’ll need a high WISC or some really compelling work samples to make the case that your child needs more than gened can offer.

PP her - I thought OP said GBRS was consistently's... You are right. With 4F's and those scores, you will need probably 130+ WISC to get in. But you can always put together an appeal package and submit if you believe your child needs AAP education.

Unless things have changed from the last couple years, the committees don't care about the WISC, only GBRS. For the reasons the next PP expressed: it is seen as an unfair advantage for those who can pay. For anecdata: my kid who had a 138 Cogat and 139 WISC was rejected. Four frequently observed.

I know at least two people last year who got rejected first round and then got in second round only with a high wisc. So they clearly aren’t discounting it.

We got a WISC done for our kid and wham bam they got in on appeal. You just have to get that high WISC and you're in like Flynn.

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Anonymous wrote:These NNAT and COGAT scores are not on the cusp, nor is “frequently observed” in all sections of the GBRS. You’ll need a high WISC or some really compelling work samples to make the case that your child needs more than gened can offer.

PP her - I thought OP said GBRS was consistently's... You are right. With 4F's and those scores, you will need probably 130+ WISC to get in. But you can always put together an appeal package and submit if you believe your child needs AAP education.

Unless things have changed from the last couple years, the committees don't care about the WISC, only GBRS. For the reasons the next PP expressed: it is seen as an unfair advantage for those who can pay. For anecdata: my kid who had a 138 Cogat and 139 WISC was rejected. Four frequently observed.

I know at least two people last year who got rejected first round and then got in second round only with a high wisc. So they clearly aren’t discounting it.

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Anonymous wrote:These NNAT and COGAT scores are not on the cusp, nor is “frequently observed” in all sections of the GBRS. You’ll need a high WISC or some really compelling work samples to make the case that your child needs more than gened can offer.

PP her - I thought OP said GBRS was consistently's... You are right. With 4F's and those scores, you will need probably 130+ WISC to get in. But you can always put together an appeal package and submit if you believe your child needs AAP education.

Unless things have changed from the last couple years, the committees don't care about the WISC, only GBRS. For the reasons the next PP expressed: it is seen as an unfair advantage for those who can pay. For anecdata: my kid who had a 138 Cogat and 139 WISC was rejected. Four frequently observed.

I know at least two people last year who got rejected first round and then got in second round only with a high wisc. So they clearly aren’t discounting it.

If you just don't give up and keep trying especially with a private diagnosis, you should eventually get in.

So glad you came by today. I don’t know what we would have done without your comment about buying a private diagnosis. We would be lost without you.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tell me there isn't racial bias / discrimination.


"Student with 2 published books, 4.2 GPA and 1560 SAT score rejected by Harvard, MIT, Yale and Princeton"

Link to article below.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/student-2-published-books-4-182005756.html

This kid has better accolades than all of us and 80% of America and still got shafted.

Yield protection. And they weren't wrong, were they?

The problem is the process, not the result, for this kid. And also for AAP admissions, generally. (I don't understand what they're doing now with their new process, and I don't think anyone else does etiher. Maybe it's not much changed, maybe it's totally different. I don't know.)

Anonymous wrote:I know this is 3 years old. Hope your appeal was successful. I am in the same boat now.

My child scored 160 on the NNAT and 137 on nonverbal and 141 on composite and has been 4s across the board on the report card along with being in extracurricular activities such as piano, basketball, swimming, the ski team and still did not get in. On top of that, the teacher's comments were 'shown in-depth knowledge in mathematics as shown by their grade 3/4 groundworks assignment and presently working/reading significantly above his grade level.'

My child is in second grade.

All of that and we still did not get in. Not sure if it's that this year, the pool is just that stacked or if there is some bias towards my child.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tell me there isn't racial bias / discrimination.


"Student with 2 published books, 4.2 GPA and 1560 SAT score rejected by Harvard, MIT, Yale and Princeton"

Link to article below.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/student-2-published-books-4-182005756.html

This kid has better accolades than all of us and 80% of America and still got shafted.

Yield protection. And they weren't wrong, were they?

The problem is the process, not the result, for this kid. And also for AAP admissions, generally. (I don't understand what they're doing now with their new process, and I don't think anyone else does etiher.[b] Maybe it's not much changed, maybe it's totally different. I don't know.)

They’re leaving it up to the elementary schools to determine their own criteria with absolutely no guidance. The school committees are quite literally making up their own criteria on the fly. It’s an absolute mess.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tell me there isn't racial bias / discrimination.


"Student with 2 published books, 4.2 GPA and 1560 SAT score rejected by Harvard, MIT, Yale and Princeton"

Link to article below.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/student-2-published-books-4-182005756.html

This kid has better accolades than all of us and 80% of America and still got shafted.

The kid got into Stanford. He’s fine.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These NNAT and COGAT scores are not on the cusp, nor is “frequently observed” in all sections of the GBRS. You’ll need a high WISC or some really compelling work samples to make the case that your child needs more than gened can offer.

PP her - I thought OP said GBRS was consistently's... You are right. With 4F's and those scores, you will need probably 130+ WISC to get in. But you can always put together an appeal package and submit if you believe your child needs AAP education.

Unless things have changed from the last couple years, the committees don't care about the WISC, only GBRS. For the reasons the next PP expressed: it is seen as an unfair advantage for those who can pay. For anecdata: my kid who had a 138 Cogat and 139 WISC was rejected. Four frequently observed.

I know at least two people last year who got rejected first round and then got in second round only with a high wisc. So they clearly aren’t discounting it.

If you just don't give up and keep trying especially with a private diagnosis, you should eventually get in.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tell me there isn't racial bias / discrimination.


"Student with 2 published books, 4.2 GPA and 1560 SAT score rejected by Harvard, MIT, Yale and Princeton"

Link to article below.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/student-2-published-books-4-182005756.html

This kid has better accolades than all of us and 80% of America and still got shafted.

Yield protection. And they weren't wrong, were they?

The problem is the process, not the result, for this kid. And also for AAP admissions, generally. (I don't understand what they're doing now with their new process, and I don't think anyone else does etiher.[b] Maybe it's not much changed, maybe it's totally different. I don't know.)

Anonymous wrote:Tell me there isn't racial bias / discrimination.


"Student with 2 published books, 4.2 GPA and 1560 SAT score rejected by Harvard, MIT, Yale and Princeton"

Link to article below.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/student-2-published-books-4-182005756.html

This kid has better accolades than all of us and 80% of America and still got shafted.