Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Sleepovers and worse.” What could be worse? Do tell!

Graduation parties. Summer pool parties. Beach trips.

We are going to all 3 this summer!!+!+
Woo hoo!!

Then you are selfish, period. This is not rocket science. Our educational system failed.

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Anonymous wrote:You're worried about your kids being at home primarily because of you or your job, not them.
You are now allowing them to go on sleepovers and worse.
Some of you are sending them on summer trips/camp.
Then you will send them to school with my kids.
You'll get what you deserve -- but so will your kids, and so will mine, and so will I.
Thanks.

It is so selfish of me to want to put food on the table and a roof over their head. I just stay home and collect welfare.

You’re outta luck since there is no welfare anymore.

And have you truly not considered other forms of safer childcare?

I'm not sure who the OP is focused on, but I can say we don't engage in any of that kind of behavior (sleepovers, seeing friends, summer trips, camp, going to grocery stores with the kids, etc.). I don't have any friends in this area who do engage in that kind of behavior because, frankly, our values wouldn't align very well if our risk tolerance levels were THAT far off. Who is sending their kids to sleepovers right now?

As far as camp, are you alluding to childcare or just a fun something-to-do? If childcare, it is a necessary evil for people to work and not lose their jobs.

Anonymous wrote:You're worried about your kids being at home primarily because of you or your job, not them.
You are now allowing them to go on sleepovers and worse.
Some of you are sending them on summer trips/camp.
Then you will send them to school with my kids.
You'll get what you deserve -- but so will your kids, and so will mine, and so will I.
Thanks.

It is so selfish of me to want to put food on the table and a roof over their head. I just stay home and collect welfare.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any good parent should worry about the isolation of children from their friends and school. It's an important part of social development. For you to suggest that parents only care in as much as their jobs are affected, or just want them out of the house is just unfair. That doesn't mean the lockdowns weren't necessary, but your first point is flatly wrong, and I say that as a SAHM who has enjoyed this time with my children but still worry.

Any good parent should also prioritize children’s physical health from a changing virus. The long term organ damage and recovering health impacts for individuals and families have not been deeply examined but one can imagine. Kids with siblings and neighbors are not isolated. Get a grip. People who live in Montana or the countryside live just fine in a small local social circle. We all just need to adjust until this is under control with reduced numbers and working tracing.

Not every child has siblings, and interacting with neighbors is just as problematic as interacting with other non family members.

Anonymous wrote:Any good parent should worry about the isolation of children from their friends and school. It's an important part of social development. For you to suggest that parents only care in as much as their jobs are affected, or just want them out of the house is just unfair. That doesn't mean the lockdowns weren't necessary, but your first point is flatly wrong, and I say that as a SAHM who has enjoyed this time with my children but still worry.

Any good parent should also prioritize children’s physical health from a changing virus. The long term organ damage and recovering health impacts for individuals and families have not been deeply examined but one can imagine. Kids with siblings and neighbors are not isolated. Get a grip. People who live in Montana or the countryside live just fine in a small local social circle. We all just need to adjust until this is under control with reduced numbers and working tracing.

Anonymous wrote:Some strong feelings going on here, but I agree with the OP. Americans are selfish. Those of you who are saying you are following the governments guidelines need to remember that these guidelines are playing to the lowest denominator. Is that you? Or can you do better? If you can, then you should. It’s your civic duty.

Yes, guidelines say you can, but should you?

If it’s necessary yes, if not no. If it’s crowded, turn around and go elsewhere or go home. Plan for less crowded times. In and out if less people are masking. Be smart. I think fcps needs to evolve their plans- it could be more safe.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Sleepovers and worse.” What could be worse? Do tell!

Graduation parties. Summer pool parties. Beach trips.

We are going to all 3 this summer!!+!+
Woo hoo!!

Pool parties and beach trips are likely much safer than hanging out with a bunch of people all night in a still room, breathing the same air.

Umm they're proving decidedly not. Something about standing in a tepid pool of water, inhaling the spray, and laying immobile for hours next to way too many people spreads virus...who knew. Not to mention all the tactile contact between strangers and friends.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/06/22/teenagers-coronavirus-senior-week-delaware/

https://people.com/health/ohio-teens-test-positive-for-coronavirus-after-trip-myrtle-beach/

You don’t think sharing a house and attending crowded gatherings were the problem but the beach?

My family (two parents, two small children) went to a beach house that we rented by ourselves, never got within 6 ft of strangers in any context , didn’t go out anywhere, and then drove home. I’m not rushing for my covid test even though the beach was in a hotspot location.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're worried about your kids being at home primarily because of you or your job, not them.
You are now allowing them to go on sleepovers and worse.
Some of you are sending them on summer trips/camp.
Then you will send them to school with my kids.
You'll get what you deserve -- but so will your kids, and so will mine, and so will I.
Thanks.

The CDC allows all of these activities if your area is in the green/open phase. The virus is going to be around for a long time. People don't really get that the main goal was to delay and prevent a surge that would completely overwhelm our hospitals. The goal was never to prevent people from ever getting the virus.

There is also a risk to you and your children's mental health by staying isolated for several months on end. That is not to be just idly dismissed, there is an impact, even though you may not clearly see it.

I kept thinking maybe this argument was just rationalizing on our part in order to justify sending our kids out. But my teenage DD started sports practice last week and after just a few practices, I realized last night how much more better her spirits are. She's much more motivated, and I'm seeing her anxiety and depression improving already. I think I really diminished just how bad the isolation has been for her. One anecdote, but I am certain she is not alone.

The key is to remain productive. Try new things. Master a new skill. Full focused diet. Be active in social/community causes through donations, awareness, fostering etc. don’t just mope around and snack all day.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're worried about your kids being at home primarily because of you or your job, not them.
You are now allowing them to go on sleepovers and worse.
Some of you are sending them on summer trips/camp.
Then you will send them to school with my kids.
You'll get what you deserve -- but so will your kids, and so will mine, and so will I.
Thanks.

The CDC allows all of these activities if your area is in the green/open phase. The virus is going to be around for a long time. People don't really get that the main goal was to delay and prevent a surge that would completely overwhelm our hospitals. The goal was never to prevent people from ever getting the virus.

There is also a risk to you and your children's mental health by staying isolated for several months on end. That is not to be just idly dismissed, there is an impact, even though you may not clearly see it.

The surge is happening as we speak. Hospitals are being overwhelmed in TX, AZ and soon FL, CA.

How will you adapt to future living when the climate become inhabitable? Bubble communities, underground communities etc. they already have the latter developed in some places and have sold units. There are more safe houses than you know. I’m not a prepper but have seen this since the 90’s but it’s been around since countries were developed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Sleepovers and worse.” What could be worse? Do tell!

Graduation parties. Summer pool parties. Beach trips.

We are going to all 3 this summer!!+!+
Woo hoo!!

Pool parties and beach trips are likely much safer than hanging out with a bunch of people all night in a still room, breathing the same air.

Umm they're proving decidedly not. Something about standing in a tepid pool of water, inhaling the spray, and laying immobile for hours next to way too many people spreads virus...who knew. Not to mention all the tactile contact between strangers and friends.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/06/22/teenagers-coronavirus-senior-week-delaware/

https://people.com/health/ohio-teens-test-positive-for-coronavirus-after-trip-myrtle-beach/

The kids in these stories were sharing group rental homes. Their indoor exposure was almost surely dramatically higher than their outdoor exposure.

Resuming colleges will have outbreaks and this shows long days at school is not the right answer for now either.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have not come together as a country or community. I don’t know why - it’s so unAmerican to be so self-centered in a time of crisis. Yes, our lack of leadership contributed to this but it’s not the whole story.

Yes, it really is the whole story.

Gimme a T, gimme a R...!

Disgusting what we have come to.

America is completely finished. Our population will continue to grapple with virus while others clean up the mess and move on. Our economy is doomed and so is our culture. I think the November election is already too late.

Trump destroyed us.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is most people aren't social distancing and most people don't need to send their kids to day care. Some do, many don't. The ambulance drivers and medical professionals are getting sick from selfish people and dying but no one seems to care about that. There is a huge difference between them going to work and people going to the beach, traveling and out to eat.

We care. We have been concerned about the medical care givers being infected. Scared to think what happens long term if the numbers of providers decline. No replacement. Yikes. I don’t even think doctors from other countries would be willing to come. Legal licensing and insurance roadblocks.

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Anonymous wrote:We look like weak, immature idiots to the rest of the world. They are tackling a pandemic by doing what it takes, meanwhile we are arguing over our "right" to be mask-free and have beach week. I'm embarrassed to be an American.

The Americans who are protesting against lockdown don't represent all Americans. But those who are protesting should consider the examples set by people in other countries who practiced social distancing and are now seeing good outcomes.

They are too blinded in their tunnel vision to see/acknowledge anything else. They openly flaunt at the risk. Let’s just get through these peaks and see who survives.

No. I’m just saying do better. A haircut isn’t that important. A party can wait. There are lessons about civic duty and respecting the sanctity of life that I would argue are more beneficial and character building for your kids than playing soccer or having a sleepover.

Just my opinion. You do you.... just keep your distance and remember to tell the truth when the contact tracers contact you.