Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do not encourage your son to go to the department head. I guarantee you, this is not a good interaction that reflects well on the student, especially if this is the first time complaining to a department head or if there is a more significant issue to deal with in the future (this would paint the student as petty and not put them in a favorable position). While we don't make fun of these things necessarily in faculty meetings, we do complain about the ridiculousness of student requests like this very often. It's not a good look.

The way this stuff works is the the assignment displays for students as:
Due Jun 20 at 11:59pm

The instructor interface says
Due at 11:59:00pm

The computer marks as late, not the professor. It's a machine-graded hard line for a reason.

Lesson learned. Suck it up.

It’s that attitude that has me looking forward to the crash of higher education.

Lol. That isn’t happening. This is just a reflection of the real world.

If the Packers are on the two yard line and snap the ball after the buzzer, the play doesn’t count if they score a touchdown to win the game.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do not encourage your son to go to the department head. I guarantee you, this is not a good interaction that reflects well on the student, especially if this is the first time complaining to a department head or if there is a more significant issue to deal with in the future (this would paint the student as petty and not put them in a favorable position). While we don't make fun of these things necessarily in faculty meetings, we do complain about the ridiculousness of student requests like this very often. It's not a good look.

The way this stuff works is the the assignment displays for students as:
Due Jun 20 at 11:59pm

The instructor interface says
Due at 11:59:00pm

The computer marks as late, not the professor. It's a machine-graded hard line for a reason.

Lesson learned. Suck it up.

This is what happens when academic professors who think they have God-like power over powerless students.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Professor is wrong and would lose if legally challenged if tge paper was filed before 12:00 unless the deadline was 11:59:00.

If the time stamp is before 12:00:00 the professor is a real asshole.

Signed,
Former judge & arbitrator.

Professor here. Yeah but it's not. This professor is surely using some kind of online LMS like Blackboard or Canvas, and when you select a date the default is 11:59:00. If something is turned in at 11:59:14 it is marked late by the system. This is visible to students. Arbitrate all you want, it'll be the student's fault. This is the beauty of Blackboard/Canvas, etc...

This nitpicking reminds me of the red intersection cameras that ticket people when they cross the line .001 sec late. For the city that nitpick like this to generate a $500 ticket, they open themselves up to a whole lotta background issues. The only way of resolving the professors’s issues like this is to bring to open professor’s personnel files to see if there’s anything in there that’s relevant. Is there anything in his background that is relevant? Is there anything the professor’ is hiding in his files that can explain professor’s a-hole behavior?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do not encourage your son to go to the department head. I guarantee you, this is not a good interaction that reflects well on the student, especially if this is the first time complaining to a department head or if there is a more significant issue to deal with in the future (this would paint the student as petty and not put them in a favorable position). While we don't make fun of these things necessarily in faculty meetings, we do complain about the ridiculousness of student requests like this very often. It's not a good look.

The way this stuff works is the the assignment displays for students as:
Due Jun 20 at 11:59pm

The instructor interface says
Due at 11:59:00pm

The computer marks as late, not the professor. It's a machine-graded hard line for a reason.

Lesson learned. Suck it up.

It is the special snowflake mentality and lack of accountability and responsibility in today's youth. I have a chronic disease too which means I'm on the toilet 10 hours a day some days and in the hospital a lot. I bring my laptop and work on my work on the toilet or bring my laptop with me to the hospital to stay up on my work.

This is what happens when academic professors who think they have God-like power over powerless students.

Nope, this is what happens when entitled students (and their enabling parents) use excuse after excuse rather than doing the work well, doing it on time, and turning it in when it is due. It was due at 11:59:00. 11:59:01 is late.

Do you think Olympic swimmers who touch in at 00:46.96 deserve the Olympic gold medal in the 100 free as much or more than the swimmer who touched in at 00:46.91? But but but it's only hundredths of a second difference!

See how those are DIFFERENT TIMES?

Anonymous wrote:In today’s climate,I would not want to be a professor aggressively pursuing a missed deadline argument based on seconds on a time stamp. I realize that fairness in these circumstances would require anyone in a similar circumstance to have the same result. The scolds on this thread are weird.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do not encourage your son to go to the department head. I guarantee you, this is not a good interaction that reflects well on the student, especially if this is the first time complaining to a department head or if there is a more significant issue to deal with in the future (this would paint the student as petty and not put them in a favorable position). While we don't make fun of these things necessarily in faculty meetings, we do complain about the ridiculousness of student requests like this very often. It's not a good look.

The way this stuff works is the the assignment displays for students as:
Due Jun 20 at 11:59pm

The instructor interface says
Due at 11:59:00pm

The computer marks as late, not the professor. It's a machine-graded hard line for a reason.

Lesson learned. Suck it up.

This is what happens when academic professors who think they have God-like power over powerless students.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do not encourage your son to go to the department head. I guarantee you, this is not a good interaction that reflects well on the student, especially if this is the first time complaining to a department head or if there is a more significant issue to deal with in the future (this would paint the student as petty and not put them in a favorable position). While we don't make fun of these things necessarily in faculty meetings, we do complain about the ridiculousness of student requests like this very often. It's not a good look.

The way this stuff works is the the assignment displays for students as:
Due Jun 20 at 11:59pm

The instructor interface says
Due at 11:59:00pm

The computer marks as late, not the professor. It's a machine-graded hard line for a reason.

Lesson learned. Suck it up.

This is what happens when academic professors who think they have God-like power over powerless students.

Anonymous wrote:Do not encourage your son to go to the department head. I guarantee you, this is not a good interaction that reflects well on the student, especially if this is the first time complaining to a department head or if there is a more significant issue to deal with in the future (this would paint the student as petty and not put them in a favorable position). While we don't make fun of these things necessarily in faculty meetings, we do complain about the ridiculousness of student requests like this very often. It's not a good look.

The way this stuff works is the the assignment displays for students as:
Due Jun 20 at 11:59pm

The instructor interface says
Due at 11:59:00pm

The computer marks as late, not the professor. It's a machine-graded hard line for a reason.

Lesson learned. Suck it up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do not encourage your son to go to the department head. I guarantee you, this is not a good interaction that reflects well on the student, especially if this is the first time complaining to a department head or if there is a more significant issue to deal with in the future (this would paint the student as petty and not put them in a favorable position). While we don't make fun of these things necessarily in faculty meetings, we do complain about the ridiculousness of student requests like this very often. It's not a good look.

The way this stuff works is the the assignment displays for students as:
Due Jun 20 at 11:59pm

The instructor interface says
Due at 11:59:00pm

The computer marks as late, not the professor. It's a machine-graded hard line for a reason.

Lesson learned. Suck it up.

It’s that attitude that has me looking forward to the crash of higher education.

Anonymous wrote:Do not encourage your son to go to the department head. I guarantee you, this is not a good interaction that reflects well on the student, especially if this is the first time complaining to a department head or if there is a more significant issue to deal with in the future (this would paint the student as petty and not put them in a favorable position). While we don't make fun of these things necessarily in faculty meetings, we do complain about the ridiculousness of student requests like this very often. It's not a good look.

The way this stuff works is the the assignment displays for students as:
Due Jun 20 at 11:59pm

The instructor interface says
Due at 11:59:00pm

The computer marks as late, not the professor. It's a machine-graded hard line for a reason.

Lesson learned. Suck it up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Professor is wrong and would lose if legally challenged if tge paper was filed before 12:00 unless the deadline was 11:59:00.

If the time stamp is before 12:00:00 the professor is a real asshole.

Signed,
Former judge & arbitrator.

Professor here. Yeah but it's not. This professor is surely using some kind of online LMS like Blackboard or Canvas, and when you select a date the default is 11:59:00. If something is turned in at 11:59:14 it is marked late by the system. This is visible to students. Arbitrate all you want, it'll be the student's fault. This is the beauty of Blackboard/Canvas, etc...