Anonymous
06/12/2020 16:55
Subject: Re:Christopher Columbus statues
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why does Christopher Columbus deserve a statue? What did he do that embodies U.S. values?
Do you know why Columbus day was made a holiday? Italian Americans wanted a day to celebrate their culture so they lobbyed for a holiday.
Geez people are dense about identity politics.
I see that you didn't answer PPs questions even a little bit.
Anonymous
06/12/2020 16:53
Subject: Re:Christopher Columbus statues
Anonymous wrote:Why does Christopher Columbus deserve a statue? What did he do that embodies U.S. values?
Do you know why Columbus day was made a holiday? Italian Americans wanted a day to celebrate their culture so they lobbyed for a holiday.
Geez people are dense about identity politics.
Anonymous
06/12/2020 16:52
Subject: Christopher Columbus statues
Certainly more difficult to trash a statue in 2020 than get funding for a long ship ride in the 1400s, Manage a team of sailors and explorers, Survive and map out the Atlantic northern hemisphere.
Anonymous
06/12/2020 16:50
Subject: Re:Christopher Columbus statues
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
So misguided. Never knew there were such fools in Minnie. I used to think they had more common sense, work ethic, Scandinavia blood, and DIY nature. Clearly not.
Nah, my state isn’t misguided.
And they took this down themselves, which is the definition of “DIY.”
Exactly! Destroying something is an accomplishment just like building something that lasts! So cool! Taking down a Christopher Columbus statue. That’ll show em.
#BLM
Anonymous
06/12/2020 16:47
Subject: Re:Christopher Columbus statues
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Quite remarkable that people are so keen on removing statues of people who lived centuries ago......
Yet, there are statues of the Democratic Senator who was a member of the KKK in both W VA and Richmond, VA. And, numerous places, streets, buildings, and rooms names for him......
No effort to make any changes to these, it seems.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/amid-outcry-over-confederate-monuments-little-outrage-over-robert-byrds-namesakes-scattered-across-home-state
I’m not clicking a Fox link. Either put up a credible source for the same story, or admit its not a legitimate story. Your choice.
So, are you disbelieving that there is such a statue, or are you not believing that there are no efforts to take them down on the part of the protesters?
And, BTW - the Columbus statue that was taken down in Richmond earlier this week? It was in Byrd Park. Name for William Byrd, slave owner.
Looks like there is a proposal to have the statue removed. Interesting that the protesters haven't touched it.
https://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/norfolk-lawmaker-to-propose-removing-byrd-statue-from-capitol-square/article_507b28dc-d6c4-5048-aa6f-da01ec2f5cb7.html
Maybe this mitigates his legacy? From the link YOU posted:
Byrd was a former member of the Klu Klux Klan who later regretted that affiliation, renounced his past views supporting segregation and described it as a mistake...By the time of his death, he had allies even in the civil rights movement, with the NAACP at the time praising his legacy and his transformation from a former KKK member to a “stalwart supporter” of civil rights. Then-President Barack Obama, too, cited Byrd’s evolution in honoring the West Virginia senator after he died.
Anonymous
06/12/2020 16:44
Subject: Re:Christopher Columbus statues
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Quite remarkable that people are so keen on removing statues of people who lived centuries ago......
Yet, there are statues of the Democratic Senator who was a member of the KKK in both W VA and Richmond, VA. And, numerous places, streets, buildings, and rooms names for him......
No effort to make any changes to these, it seems.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/amid-outcry-over-confederate-monuments-little-outrage-over-robert-byrds-namesakes-scattered-across-home-state
I’m not clicking a Fox link. Either put up a credible source for the same story, or admit its not a legitimate story. Your choice.
Who here is actually surprised that West Virginia, who voted for Trump 2:1 in 2016, has done nothing to take down the KKK Byrd statue?
Anonymous
06/12/2020 16:34
Subject: Re:Christopher Columbus statues
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Quite remarkable that people are so keen on removing statues of people who lived centuries ago......
Yet, there are statues of the Democratic Senator who was a member of the KKK in both W VA and Richmond, VA. And, numerous places, streets, buildings, and rooms names for him......
No effort to make any changes to these, it seems.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/amid-outcry-over-confederate-monuments-little-outrage-over-robert-byrds-namesakes-scattered-across-home-state
I’m not clicking a Fox link. Either put up a credible source for the same story, or admit its not a legitimate story. Your choice.
So, are you disbelieving that there is such a statue, or are you not believing that there are no efforts to take them down on the part of the protesters?
And, BTW - the Columbus statue that was taken down in Richmond earlier this week? It was in Byrd Park. Name for William Byrd, slave owner.
Looks like there is a proposal to have the statue removed. Interesting that the protesters haven't touched it.
https://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/norfolk-lawmaker-to-propose-removing-byrd-statue-from-capitol-square/article_507b28dc-d6c4-5048-aa6f-da01ec2f5cb7.html
Anonymous
06/12/2020 15:54
Subject: Re:Christopher Columbus statues
Anonymous wrote:
So misguided. Never knew there were such fools in Minnie. I used to think they had more common sense, work ethic, Scandinavia blood, and DIY nature. Clearly not.
Nah, my state isn’t misguided.
And they took this down themselves, which is the definition of “DIY.”
Anonymous
06/12/2020 15:33
Subject: Re:Christopher Columbus statues
So misguided. Never knew there were such fools in Minnie. I used to think they had more common sense, work ethic, Scandinavia blood, and DIY nature. Clearly not.
Anonymous
06/12/2020 15:31
Subject: Christopher Columbus statues
Dude, revisionalist history is a unit in AP U.S. history for decades. This all ebbs and flows, you keep things there, and add your 2020 viewpoint to the history book after the other 10 viewpoints and the original one.
That’s history. Study of the past, all info and stats, events. Your opinion of matters is for your blog or your term paper, assuming it uses many sides and facts.
Anthro and sociology is another class.
That’s history. Study of the past, all info and stats, events. Your opinion of matters is for your blog or your term paper, assuming it uses many sides and facts.
Anthro and sociology is another class.
Anonymous
Anonymous
06/12/2020 15:27
Subject: Re:Christopher Columbus statues
Anonymous wrote:Quite remarkable that people are so keen on removing statues of people who lived centuries ago......
Yet, there are statues of the Democratic Senator who was a member of the KKK in both W VA and Richmond, VA. And, numerous places, streets, buildings, and rooms names for him......
No effort to make any changes to these, it seems.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/amid-outcry-over-confederate-monuments-little-outrage-over-robert-byrds-namesakes-scattered-across-home-state
I’m not clicking a Fox link. Either put up a credible source for the same story, or admit its not a legitimate story. Your choice.
Anonymous
06/12/2020 15:25
Subject: Re:Christopher Columbus statues
Anonymous wrote:Quite remarkable that people are so keen on removing statues of people who lived centuries ago......
Yet, there are statues of the Democratic Senator who was a member of the KKK in both W VA and Richmond, VA. And, numerous places, streets, buildings, and rooms names for him......
No effort to make any changes to these, it seems.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/amid-outcry-over-confederate-monuments-little-outrage-over-robert-byrds-namesakes-scattered-across-home-state
Sounds made-up to me.
Anonymous
06/12/2020 15:03
Subject: Christopher Columbus statues
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I will celebrate exploring a new frontier and discovering new places. That was a big endeavor back then and an amazing risk that the finders, sailors, countries took for economic trade route exploration.
What were other societies doing that that point in time?
Frankly I don’t think any protestor could even survive on a tall ship for more than a week before they’d perish from lack of survival skills or work ethic. Much easier to just sit around and shout.
Let’s stick them on the Oregon Trail too, with a covered wagon and five objects from the 1800s of their choosing.
I’ll give them 5 days.
You're generous.
I'd give them five hours.
Because that's about how long you'd last.
Anonymous
06/12/2020 14:52
Subject: Christopher Columbus statues
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are there any white men left that are allowed to have statues?
Serious question.
No, this isn't a serious question.
Why, because you don't like it?
Because it reveals that you only care about one thing.