Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is so ugly. Yes, the guy should be defeated at the ballot box. No, he won’t be in S Carolina. No, he has no spine after turning on his friend, McCain, and sucking up to Trump. Yes, he is the world’s biggest hypocrite.
But outing him like this is just ugly. I hope this story slinks back to the sewers where it belongs.
No. Honestly, it’s he and his ardent supporters who think this anything about his sexual orientation is ugly. He should not take advantage of these sex workers while supporting completely discriminatory policies in his office. The hypocrisy has to end. He and his supporters are the ones who have a problem with the truth. That’s on them.
DP. Could you list the "discriminatory policies" please. Be specific. Thanks.
Another DP.
The boldest is the most critical takeaway. You’re focusing on the wrong thing. As usual. Most people don’t GAF if he is gay. They do care if he is hypocritical. Because he had the power to oppress the very same choices that he exercises.
Mmkay, as expected, you didn't even answer the question. I have no idea what you're blabbering about, but it in no way answers the bolded question.
https://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Lindsey_Graham_Civil_Rights.htm
Even Obama himself evolved on his gay marriage stance. He was not a proponent of gay marriage until 2012. In 2008 he said, "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage." So really, stop being hypocritical about Graham's evolution on gay marriage.
From your link, Graham's most recent stances:
"But, the court has ruled, so here's where I stand. If I'm president of the United States, here's what would happen. If you have a church, a mosque, or a synagogue, and you're following your faith, and you refuse to perform a same-sex marriage, because it's outside the tenets of your faith, you will not lose your tax-exempt status. If you're a gay person or a gay couple, if I'm president of the United States, you will be able to participate in commerce and be a full member of society, consistent with the religious beliefs of others who have rights also." (2015)
"Graham says the nation should accept the Supreme Court decision on gay marriage. Speaking to the Boston Herald Radio in May, Graham said he personally believes in traditional marriage," but that America must be ready to move on following the decision of the Supreme Court on the issue." (2015)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Listen, just because you're progressive and liberal doesn't mean that you get a pass on mocking a gay man for being gay. He's probably said some unfortunate things about being gay, as have most gay people, because the world teaches them to hate themselves. But you're the one saying unfortunate things now, acting like he should be ashamed of himself for who he loves. You don't get a pass. It's wrong, full stop.
I am not sure who is mocking him- I as the OP was not trying to whatsoever, and just provided factual info about what was happening. Graham has been a major supporter of trump and it does seem he’s compromised in some way as he spoke out against trump and criticized him more before a turning point a few years ago. He supports an administration that does extreme harm to minorities and LGBTQ people. I would be happy if he’s voted out of office. Nothing wrong with him being gay, but everything else he does.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let's be liberal about this. If he paid them what they asked for and tipped nicely on top of that what he does on his own time is kind of stormy danielsy. Give Lindsey a pass here.
Were it not for the anti-LGBT policies, I would whole-heartedly agree with you! All other things being equal, we should not criticize what goes on between two consenting adults.
Anonymous wrote:Listen, just because you're progressive and liberal doesn't mean that you get a pass on mocking a gay man for being gay. He's probably said some unfortunate things about being gay, as have most gay people, because the world teaches them to hate themselves. But you're the one saying unfortunate things now, acting like he should be ashamed of himself for who he loves. You don't get a pass. It's wrong, full stop.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is so ugly. Yes, the guy should be defeated at the ballot box. No, he won’t be in S Carolina. No, he has no spine after turning on his friend, McCain, and sucking up to Trump. Yes, he is the world’s biggest hypocrite.
But outing him like this is just ugly. I hope this story slinks back to the sewers where it belongs.
No. Honestly, it’s he and his ardent supporters who think this anything about his sexual orientation is ugly. He should not take advantage of these sex workers while supporting completely discriminatory policies in his office. The hypocrisy has to end. He and his supporters are the ones who have a problem with the truth. That’s on them.
DP. Could you list the "discriminatory policies" please. Be specific. Thanks.
Another DP.
The boldest is the most critical takeaway. You’re focusing on the wrong thing. As usual. Most people don’t GAF if he is gay. They do care if he is hypocritical. Because he had the power to oppress the very same choices that he exercises.
Mmkay, as expected, you didn't even answer the question. I have no idea what you're blabbering about, but it in no way answers the bolded question.
https://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Lindsey_Graham_Civil_Rights.htm
Anonymous wrote:Listen, just because you're progressive and liberal doesn't mean that you get a pass on mocking a gay man for being gay. He's probably said some unfortunate things about being gay, as have most gay people, because the world teaches them to hate themselves. But you're the one saying unfortunate things now, acting like he should be ashamed of himself for who he loves. You don't get a pass. It's wrong, full stop.
Anonymous wrote:Let's be liberal about this. If he paid them what they asked for and tipped nicely on top of that what he does on his own time is kind of stormy danielsy. Give Lindsey a pass here.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is so ugly. Yes, the guy should be defeated at the ballot box. No, he won’t be in S Carolina. No, he has no spine after turning on his friend, McCain, and sucking up to Trump. Yes, he is the world’s biggest hypocrite.
But outing him like this is just ugly. I hope this story slinks back to the sewers where it belongs.
No. Honestly, it’s he and his ardent supporters who think this anything about his sexual orientation is ugly. He should not take advantage of these sex workers while supporting completely discriminatory policies in his office. The hypocrisy has to end. He and his supporters are the ones who have a problem with the truth. That’s on them.
DP. Could you list the "discriminatory policies" please. Be specific. Thanks.
Another DP.
The boldest is the most critical takeaway. You’re focusing on the wrong thing. As usual. Most people don’t GAF if he is gay. They do care if he is hypocritical. Because he had the power to oppress the very same choices that he exercises.
Mmkay, as expected, you didn't even answer the question. I have no idea what you're blabbering about, but it in no way answers the bolded question.
Anonymous wrote:What homophobic policies has LG supported? Everyone in the GOP knows he's gay. Everyone. But his sexual preferences aren't your business. Does he has to announce his orientation to you in order to be "really" gay? Is this like how Biden gets to decide who's black? If he slept with escorts and broke the law, fine, get him on that if you must. But he doesn't *owe* you an explanation of his sexual preferences. You don't expect straight politicians to do that and the only reason you'd expect this from a gay one is that you want to enforce a heteronormative, homophobic approach to sexual identity.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is so ugly. Yes, the guy should be defeated at the ballot box. No, he won’t be in S Carolina. No, he has no spine after turning on his friend, McCain, and sucking up to Trump. Yes, he is the world’s biggest hypocrite.
But outing him like this is just ugly. I hope this story slinks back to the sewers where it belongs.
No. Honestly, it’s he and his ardent supporters who think this anything about his sexual orientation is ugly. He should not take advantage of these sex workers while supporting completely discriminatory policies in his office. The hypocrisy has to end. He and his supporters are the ones who have a problem with the truth. That’s on them.
DP. Could you list the "discriminatory policies" please. Be specific. Thanks.
Another DP.
The boldest is the most critical takeaway. You’re focusing on the wrong thing. As usual. Most people don’t GAF if he is gay. They do care if he is hypocritical. Because he had the power to oppress the very same choices that he exercises.
Mmkay, as expected, you didn't even answer the question. I have no idea what you're blabbering about, but it in no way answers the bolded question.