Anonymous
06/10/2020 08:46
Subject: How Technical are the Girls?
Coach here:
Players are as technical as their coaching environment demands them to be.
The younger they start the easier it is of course and it does take time. That being said a lot can be done in just a couple years if hard work is put in.
Having coached both boys and girls I'd say the main difference is just speed and power. In fact due to the slower nature of the womens game I would say it's even more important to be technical for them, despite what the top 1% of teams can get away with.
Players are as technical as their coaching environment demands them to be.
The younger they start the easier it is of course and it does take time. That being said a lot can be done in just a couple years if hard work is put in.
Having coached both boys and girls I'd say the main difference is just speed and power. In fact due to the slower nature of the womens game I would say it's even more important to be technical for them, despite what the top 1% of teams can get away with.
Anonymous
06/10/2020 08:03
Subject: How Technical are the Girls?
When my DD joined a travel team several years ago, the girls on the team did not welcome her and made her feel uncomfortable. While she was the most technical girl on the team, I noticed her aggressiveness dropped. After 1 season, she her technical skills continued to increase and her aggressiveness returned as she got comfortable with the girls/team.
I told her when new girls join the team, please make sure you welcome them because you don’t want the new girls to feel the way they other girls made you feel when you first joined. She did exactly that. Hence, all of the new girls really liked and got along very well with my DD. I’m a very proud Dad because of her personality. We will be joining a new team this upcoming Fall season. I hope that she’s a lot more mature now (U13) that any unwelcoming girls on the team won’t affect her play/aggressiveness. I don’t know if this type of toxicity is more with girls compared to boys or not.
I told her when new girls join the team, please make sure you welcome them because you don’t want the new girls to feel the way they other girls made you feel when you first joined. She did exactly that. Hence, all of the new girls really liked and got along very well with my DD. I’m a very proud Dad because of her personality. We will be joining a new team this upcoming Fall season. I hope that she’s a lot more mature now (U13) that any unwelcoming girls on the team won’t affect her play/aggressiveness. I don’t know if this type of toxicity is more with girls compared to boys or not.
Anonymous
06/09/2020 17:26
Subject: How Technical are the Girls?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It you have 4 or more technical players it really gives you a lot of options in terms of style of play and tactics. You can change style of play and tactic in a 1/2. If you have one or two technical players it really limits style of play options and tactics.
+1. And If you have 4 technical players, depending on the coach and Team, they can raise the Technical level and motivation to be technical for the rest of the team. We saw that happen. They really all developed that mindset to be better technically and worked outside of practice to do that.
Good luck with your business if your mission is to focus and promote only 4 players while the other 75% are ignored. As a club you may not get that far in recognition. While this approach may work for clubs with pro teams in a pro league for which costumers are fans, it will not when your costumers are players/parents (each and all looking for the same ROI).
Remove the top 4 girls(technical or just very athletic) and see how well you team does. It’s always about the top four girls. The coaches always spend the vast majority of their time and energy with the top girls.
Oftentimes those 4 girls leave out of frustration anyways. 4 technical kids on a team is just not enough. One or two kids who just don’t know what they are doing can cause more damage than 4 girls that know what they are doing can help. There really is no place to hide in 11v11.
I agree.
But on a typical EDP team, how many girls are technical? (Please note I’m not asking about ECNL/GA players as it could start a war.)
Technical is relative. There may be many technical kids on a EDP team but they may lack elite athleticism.
I’m really not sure what you are trying to ask or hope to hear. But being a technical player is a personal journey and it never really ends as long as you are playing. Most of the technical foundation is laid by 13 and most of the dye is cast by that point. This doesn’t mean that at 13 you can’t improve anymore, it just means the ease at which one can improve becomes harder. Social, academic, other interests all play a role in time dedicated to improving overall.
Past 14 soccer begins to resemble kids when they where 6-8 years old again. Some take it very seriously and others simply enjoy the game with friends. This is when a huge talent gap simply grows. Some kids see playing beyond HS as a real possibility and others know it isn’t and are just playing to play without a dedicated effort to improve beyond the club or HS team they are currently on.
You have a few good and interesting points in your post especially the dye is cast by 13 and the past 14.
As for 4 technical girls. It really depends on the team. Sometimes it just takes a few technical girls with good personalities that can elevate, motivate and bring the entire team together. On the other hand, a few technical girls with toxic personalities can destroy a good team.
+1
Anonymous
06/09/2020 14:21
Subject: How Technical are the Girls?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It you have 4 or more technical players it really gives you a lot of options in terms of style of play and tactics. You can change style of play and tactic in a 1/2. If you have one or two technical players it really limits style of play options and tactics.
+1. And If you have 4 technical players, depending on the coach and Team, they can raise the Technical level and motivation to be technical for the rest of the team. We saw that happen. They really all developed that mindset to be better technically and worked outside of practice to do that.
Good luck with your business if your mission is to focus and promote only 4 players while the other 75% are ignored. As a club you may not get that far in recognition. While this approach may work for clubs with pro teams in a pro league for which costumers are fans, it will not when your costumers are players/parents (each and all looking for the same ROI).
Remove the top 4 girls(technical or just very athletic) and see how well you team does. It’s always about the top four girls. The coaches always spend the vast majority of their time and energy with the top girls.
Oftentimes those 4 girls leave out of frustration anyways. 4 technical kids on a team is just not enough. One or two kids who just don’t know what they are doing can cause more damage than 4 girls that know what they are doing can help. There really is no place to hide in 11v11.
I agree.
But on a typical EDP team, how many girls are technical? (Please note I’m not asking about ECNL/GA players as it could start a war.)
Technical is relative. There may be many technical kids on a EDP team but they may lack elite athleticism.
I’m really not sure what you are trying to ask or hope to hear. But being a technical player is a personal journey and it never really ends as long as you are playing. Most of the technical foundation is laid by 13 and most of the dye is cast by that point. This doesn’t mean that at 13 you can’t improve anymore, it just means the ease at which one can improve becomes harder. Social, academic, other interests all play a role in time dedicated to improving overall.
Past 14 soccer begins to resemble kids when they where 6-8 years old again. Some take it very seriously and others simply enjoy the game with friends. This is when a huge talent gap simply grows. Some kids see playing beyond HS as a real possibility and others know it isn’t and are just playing to play without a dedicated effort to improve beyond the club or HS team they are currently on.
You have a few good and interesting points in your post especially the dye is cast by 13 and the past 14.
As for 4 technical girls. It really depends on the team. Sometimes it just takes a few technical girls with good personalities that can elevate, motivate and bring the entire team together. On the other hand, a few technical girls with toxic personalities can destroy a good team.
Anonymous
06/09/2020 08:52
Subject: How Technical are the Girls?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It you have 4 or more technical players it really gives you a lot of options in terms of style of play and tactics. You can change style of play and tactic in a 1/2. If you have one or two technical players it really limits style of play options and tactics.
+1. And If you have 4 technical players, depending on the coach and Team, they can raise the Technical level and motivation to be technical for the rest of the team. We saw that happen. They really all developed that mindset to be better technically and worked outside of practice to do that.
Good luck with your business if your mission is to focus and promote only 4 players while the other 75% are ignored. As a club you may not get that far in recognition. While this approach may work for clubs with pro teams in a pro league for which costumers are fans, it will not when your costumers are players/parents (each and all looking for the same ROI).
Remove the top 4 girls(technical or just very athletic) and see how well you team does. It’s always about the top four girls. The coaches always spend the vast majority of their time and energy with the top girls.
Oftentimes those 4 girls leave out of frustration anyways. 4 technical kids on a team is just not enough. One or two kids who just don’t know what they are doing can cause more damage than 4 girls that know what they are doing can help. There really is no place to hide in 11v11.
I agree.
But on a typical EDP team, how many girls are technical? (Please note I’m not asking about ECNL/GA players as it could start a war.)
Technical is relative. There may be many technical kids on a EDP team but they may lack elite athleticism.
I’m really not sure what you are trying to ask or hope to hear. But being a technical player is a personal journey and it never really ends as long as you are playing. Most of the technical foundation is laid by 13 and most of the dye is cast by that point. This doesn’t mean that at 13 you can’t improve anymore, it just means the ease at which one can improve becomes harder. Social, academic, other interests all play a role in time dedicated to improving overall.
Past 14 soccer begins to resemble kids when they where 6-8 years old again. Some take it very seriously and others simply enjoy the game with friends. This is when a huge talent gap simply grows. Some kids see playing beyond HS as a real possibility and others know it isn’t and are just playing to play without a dedicated effort to improve beyond the club or HS team they are currently on.
Anonymous
06/09/2020 08:24
Subject: How Technical are the Girls?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It you have 4 or more technical players it really gives you a lot of options in terms of style of play and tactics. You can change style of play and tactic in a 1/2. If you have one or two technical players it really limits style of play options and tactics.
+1. And If you have 4 technical players, depending on the coach and Team, they can raise the Technical level and motivation to be technical for the rest of the team. We saw that happen. They really all developed that mindset to be better technically and worked outside of practice to do that.
Good luck with your business if your mission is to focus and promote only 4 players while the other 75% are ignored. As a club you may not get that far in recognition. While this approach may work for clubs with pro teams in a pro league for which costumers are fans, it will not when your costumers are players/parents (each and all looking for the same ROI).
Remove the top 4 girls(technical or just very athletic) and see how well you team does. It’s always about the top four girls. The coaches always spend the vast majority of their time and energy with the top girls.
Oftentimes those 4 girls leave out of frustration anyways. 4 technical kids on a team is just not enough. One or two kids who just don’t know what they are doing can cause more damage than 4 girls that know what they are doing can help. There really is no place to hide in 11v11.
I agree.
But on a typical EDP team, how many girls are technical? (Please note I’m not asking about ECNL/GA players as it could start a war.)
Anonymous
06/09/2020 08:16
Subject: How Technical are the Girls?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It you have 4 or more technical players it really gives you a lot of options in terms of style of play and tactics. You can change style of play and tactic in a 1/2. If you have one or two technical players it really limits style of play options and tactics.
+1. And If you have 4 technical players, depending on the coach and Team, they can raise the Technical level and motivation to be technical for the rest of the team. We saw that happen. They really all developed that mindset to be better technically and worked outside of practice to do that.
Good luck with your business if your mission is to focus and promote only 4 players while the other 75% are ignored. As a club you may not get that far in recognition. While this approach may work for clubs with pro teams in a pro league for which costumers are fans, it will not when your costumers are players/parents (each and all looking for the same ROI).
Remove the top 4 girls(technical or just very athletic) and see how well you team does. It’s always about the top four girls. The coaches always spend the vast majority of their time and energy with the top girls.
Oftentimes those 4 girls leave out of frustration anyways. 4 technical kids on a team is just not enough. One or two kids who just don’t know what they are doing can cause more damage than 4 girls that know what they are doing can help. There really is no place to hide in 11v11.
Anonymous
06/08/2020 12:53
Subject: How Technical are the Girls?
Anonymous wrote:With coaches not emphasizing technical skills and at the same time favoring the big/fast/aggressive girls, what makes a player spend a large amount of time practicing foot skills?
I guess it have to be experienced/astute parents.
I think it really depends on the environment and coaching staff. Some value a well rounded player, others athleticism, still others, although a much smaller subset purely technical.
On the four player discussion, I'd say more top two thirds (6-8) are focused on and needed to really succeed. Four girls will not sway the team completely unless they are beasts in 11 v 11 play.
Anonymous
06/08/2020 12:08
Subject: How Technical are the Girls?
With coaches not emphasizing technical skills and at the same time favoring the big/fast/aggressive girls, what makes a player spend a large amount of time practicing foot skills?
I guess it have to be experienced/astute parents.
I guess it have to be experienced/astute parents.
Anonymous
06/07/2020 22:28
Subject: How Technical are the Girls?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It you have 4 or more technical players it really gives you a lot of options in terms of style of play and tactics. You can change style of play and tactic in a 1/2. If you have one or two technical players it really limits style of play options and tactics.
+1. And If you have 4 technical players, depending on the coach and Team, they can raise the Technical level and motivation to be technical for the rest of the team. We saw that happen. They really all developed that mindset to be better technically and worked outside of practice to do that.
Does it matter which position these 4 technical players play? I assume that one position that must have a technical player is Center Midfielder.
Having a technical mid is great if you use them. If you have a technical center mid but they rarely get touches it’s does not help. If the teams style of play is direct from the back having two technical fullbacks and two technical strikers work really well. You want the technical players getting the majority of the touches.
Or say someone once said...
We must make sure their worst players get the ball the most. You’ll get it back in no time.
+1 and this type of play makes the coach look good till the day the team that meets a good team with a good goalie. Then the coach will look horrible because he is not teaching any tactics.
Omg stfu u talk as if u know something. Just zip it clown.
Anonymous
06/07/2020 16:41
Subject: How Technical are the Girls?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It you have 4 or more technical players it really gives you a lot of options in terms of style of play and tactics. You can change style of play and tactic in a 1/2. If you have one or two technical players it really limits style of play options and tactics.
+1. And If you have 4 technical players, depending on the coach and Team, they can raise the Technical level and motivation to be technical for the rest of the team. We saw that happen. They really all developed that mindset to be better technically and worked outside of practice to do that.
Does it matter which position these 4 technical players play? I assume that one position that must have a technical player is Center Midfielder.
Having a technical mid is great if you use them. If you have a technical center mid but they rarely get touches it’s does not help. If the teams style of play is direct from the back having two technical fullbacks and two technical strikers work really well. You want the technical players getting the majority of the touches.
Or say someone once said...
We must make sure their worst players get the ball the most. You’ll get it back in no time.
+1 and this type of play makes the coach look good till the day the team that meets a good team with a good goalie. Then the coach will look horrible because he is not teaching any tactics.
Anonymous
06/07/2020 14:19
Subject: How Technical are the Girls?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It you have 4 or more technical players it really gives you a lot of options in terms of style of play and tactics. You can change style of play and tactic in a 1/2. If you have one or two technical players it really limits style of play options and tactics.
+1. And If you have 4 technical players, depending on the coach and Team, they can raise the Technical level and motivation to be technical for the rest of the team. We saw that happen. They really all developed that mindset to be better technically and worked outside of practice to do that.
Good luck with your business if your mission is to focus and promote only 4 players while the other 75% are ignored. As a club you may not get that far in recognition. While this approach may work for clubs with pro teams in a pro league for which costumers are fans, it will not when your costumers are players/parents (each and all looking for the same ROI).
Read what the PP said carefully. He never said to focus on 4 girls. He said, if you have 4 technical girls, it elevates the entire team and motivates the others to develop their technical skills as well.
PP of original comment. correct that was my intent. A positive team environment and coach can build on 4 technical girls so that the rest Of the players - collectively as a team and individually elevate their technical skills. In a positive environment, all of the girls will be doing extra ball work to elevate their game. You may still have 4 standouts but you increase the overall play. Depending on the age, there maybe another player that may start to stand out as well.
Anonymous
06/07/2020 13:04
Subject: How Technical are the Girls?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It you have 4 or more technical players it really gives you a lot of options in terms of style of play and tactics. You can change style of play and tactic in a 1/2. If you have one or two technical players it really limits style of play options and tactics.
+1. And If you have 4 technical players, depending on the coach and Team, they can raise the Technical level and motivation to be technical for the rest of the team. We saw that happen. They really all developed that mindset to be better technically and worked outside of practice to do that.
Good luck with your business if your mission is to focus and promote only 4 players while the other 75% are ignored. As a club you may not get that far in recognition. While this approach may work for clubs with pro teams in a pro league for which costumers are fans, it will not when your costumers are players/parents (each and all looking for the same ROI).
Remove the top 4 girls(technical or just very athletic) and see how well you team does. It’s always about the top four girls. The coaches always spend the vast majority of their time and energy with the top girls.
This is unfortunate but very true. Technical girls are typically more focused and competitive and will elevate the entire team’s play.
Anonymous
06/07/2020 12:27
Subject: How Technical are the Girls?
Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It you have 4 or more technical players it really gives you a lot of options in terms of style of play and tactics. You can change style of play and tactic in a 1/2. If you have one or two technical players it really limits style of play options and tactics.
+1. And If you have 4 technical players, depending on the coach and Team, they can raise the Technical level and motivation to be technical for the rest of the team. We saw that happen. They really all developed that mindset to be better technically and worked outside of practice to do that.
Good luck with your business if your mission is to focus and promote only 4 players while the other 75% are ignored. As a club you may not get that far in recognition. While this approach may work for clubs with pro teams in a pro league for which costumers are fans, it will not when your costumers are players/parents (each and all looking for the same ROI).
Remove the top 4 girls(technical or just very athletic) and see how well you team does. It’s always about the top four girls. The coaches always spend the vast majority of their time and energy with the top girls.
Anonymous
06/07/2020 12:17
Subject: How Technical are the Girls?
Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It you have 4 or more technical players it really gives you a lot of options in terms of style of play and tactics. You can change style of play and tactic in a 1/2. If you have one or two technical players it really limits style of play options and tactics.
+1. And If you have 4 technical players, depending on the coach and Team, they can raise the Technical level and motivation to be technical for the rest of the team. We saw that happen. They really all developed that mindset to be better technically and worked outside of practice to do that.
Good luck with your business if your mission is to focus and promote only 4 players while the other 75% are ignored. As a club you may not get that far in recognition. While this approach may work for clubs with pro teams in a pro league for which costumers are fans, it will not when your costumers are players/parents (each and all looking for the same ROI).
Read what the PP said carefully. He never said to focus on 4 girls. He said, if you have 4 technical girls, it elevates the entire team and motivates the others to develop their technical skills as well.