Anonymous
Post 05/30/2020 21:19     Subject: Ordering groceries when no one in your family is vulnerable
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Those of you saying you don’t do delivery/pickup because it’s one more person touching your food, do you realize your being in the store yourself is worse? You won’t get it from your food but you might get it from the guy who just coughed walking past you in the store.


Sure, its possible but reality is most people getting food delivery aren't even staying home. I'm only going out for food and prescriptions. So, the likelihood of us getting it from every 7-10 day grocery shopping (or longer) is pretty slim. Getting it from getting my prescriptions is a higher possibility. But, most people are not fully social distancing so the food issue is the least way they will get it. I think its safer to get it myself, do shelf check out and leave any non-perishables I don't need in the car or don't unpack for a few days.


But many of us are. I order grocery delivery and do contactless curbside pick up of produce. We are basically isolating. We do go on walks but give people a wide berth (more than 6 feet). So if I did go grocery shopping, that would be the biggest exposure risk in my situation.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2020 20:32     Subject: Ordering groceries when no one in your family is vulnerable
Anonymous wrote:Those of you saying you don’t do delivery/pickup because it’s one more person touching your food, do you realize your being in the store yourself is worse? You won’t get it from your food but you might get it from the guy who just coughed walking past you in the store.


Sure, its possible but reality is most people getting food delivery aren't even staying home. I'm only going out for food and prescriptions. So, the likelihood of us getting it from every 7-10 day grocery shopping (or longer) is pretty slim. Getting it from getting my prescriptions is a higher possibility. But, most people are not fully social distancing so the food issue is the least way they will get it. I think its safer to get it myself, do shelf check out and leave any non-perishables I don't need in the car or don't unpack for a few days.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2020 20:30     Subject: Ordering groceries when no one in your family is vulnerable
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tons of slots for Peapod, HT Express Lane, and Amazon Fresh, assume others too, for a long time now. Fewer people in the store is safer for everyone. We feel healthy but my husband is on active duty orders and it's been going around his office. You're welcome for us staying out of the store.


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I think it’s actually safer for everyone to do curbside or delivery through the store itself, like amazon prime now. That way the store has a limited number of people in it and they can make sure that people who are in the store are wearing masks. As opposed to when people go shopping themselves or use Instacart and therefore that leads to more members of the public going and breathing in the store which exposes the workers more. I noticed that one of the demands for the strikers a month or so ago with that Whole Foods moves to delivery only.


Have you watched some of the instacart shoppers. Some are not familiar with the products and touching and scanning everything. That isn't safe. Curbside would be safest but I'm not paying a premium for that. Some grocery stores are 24/7 or open late hours. I have gone at 8-9 PM and its pretty empty.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2020 20:23     Subject: Ordering groceries when no one in your family is vulnerable
So, where I live the Whole Foods delivery slots are plentiful. I put together an order two days and there were slots available starting 3 hours out from when I looked and available for the rest of the day and the next. My shopper started on my order immediately.

I hardly think I took some elderly person’s slot...so you people can lay off with your guilt trip.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2020 17:12     Subject: Ordering groceries when no one in your family is vulnerable
Those of you saying you don’t do delivery/pickup because it’s one more person touching your food, do you realize your being in the store yourself is worse? You won’t get it from your food but you might get it from the guy who just coughed walking past you in the store.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2020 16:46     Subject: Ordering groceries when no one in your family is vulnerable
This is the whole not seeing the forest for the trees thing, OP. When an invulnerable person doesn’t go to the store, one fewer person goes to the store to expose cashiers, other shoppers, delivery people (who are already there). This is a good thing.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2020 16:44     Subject: Re:Ordering groceries when no one in your family is vulnerable
Anonymous wrote:I hate instacart, but I use one of the many services where the driver delivers food from the warehouse directly to the home, cutting out the grocery store. As others have said, this was around long before COVID, and I don't see the point in having to go through the grocery store for every shop. We do go to Whole Foods about every two weeks and shop ourselves, but this direct to consumer delivery model is efficient and I don't think unethical in any way. The service we choose is able to give us a lot of local foods as well.


I would be interested in hearing the names or links to the services that you discuss.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2020 16:41     Subject: Re:Ordering groceries when no one in your family is vulnerable
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The thing is, you may not know who is vulnerable. Or infected and contagious. I’m sure my neighbors are sideeyeing our porch, but I’m a slim healthy looking SAH woman in her 30s who actually has a bunch of autoimmune issues and other health concerns. I don’t look like I do and I don’t share this info with anyone apart from my husband.


This is true, but I still go when I can to the grocery store as its one of the few times I do leave. No one believes you if you have chronic pain and health issues if you look healthy so no point in sharing.


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Anonymous
Post 05/30/2020 16:40     Subject: Ordering groceries when no one in your family is vulnerable
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tons of slots for Peapod, HT Express Lane, and Amazon Fresh, assume others too, for a long time now. Fewer people in the store is safer for everyone. We feel healthy but my husband is on active duty orders and it's been going around his office. You're welcome for us staying out of the store.


This

I think it’s actually safer for everyone to do curbside or delivery through the store itself, like amazon prime now. That way the store has a limited number of people in it and they can make sure that people who are in the store are wearing masks. As opposed to when people go shopping themselves or use Instacart and therefore that leads to more members of the public going and breathing in the store which exposes the workers more. I noticed that one of the demands for the strikers a month or so ago with that Whole Foods moves to delivery only.


I should add. I don’t have a car and used grocery delivery for about 10 years before Covid. I also have an underlying condition. So I am very grateful that it exists.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2020 16:39     Subject: Ordering groceries when no one in your family is vulnerable
Anonymous wrote:Tons of slots for Peapod, HT Express Lane, and Amazon Fresh, assume others too, for a long time now. Fewer people in the store is safer for everyone. We feel healthy but my husband is on active duty orders and it's been going around his office. You're welcome for us staying out of the store.


This

I think it’s actually safer for everyone to do curbside or delivery through the store itself, like amazon prime now. That way the store has a limited number of people in it and they can make sure that people who are in the store are wearing masks. As opposed to when people go shopping themselves or use Instacart and therefore that leads to more members of the public going and breathing in the store which exposes the workers more. I noticed that one of the demands for the strikers a month or so ago with that Whole Foods moves to delivery only.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2020 16:37     Subject: Re:Ordering groceries when no one in your family is vulnerable
We're not especially vulnerable but we have small kids who can't be left alone.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2020 16:36     Subject: Ordering groceries when no one in your family is vulnerable
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think I’m a better person because I can afford grocery delivery. When I was growing up my parents always had groceries and milk and the dry cleaning delivered. We were not rich. If you look at it your way - am I entitled because someone washes my hair at a salon or opens the door at a hotel or delivers my mail or picks up my trash or checks out my book at the library. I actually serve people too. I’m a caterer. I make a lot of money essentially waiting on people. We all have jobs. Different jobs. Dentists make a lot of money but have to smell everyone’s lousy breath.


Most of us could afford it, that is not the issue. We don't do it as I don't want one more person touching my food and I'd rather leave the service for those who need it. We only shop about every 10 days either way so its not a big deal.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2020 16:34     Subject: Ordering groceries when no one in your family is vulnerable
I don’t think I’m a better person because I can afford grocery delivery. When I was growing up my parents always had groceries and milk and the dry cleaning delivered. We were not rich. If you look at it your way - am I entitled because someone washes my hair at a salon or opens the door at a hotel or delivers my mail or picks up my trash or checks out my book at the library. I actually serve people too. I’m a caterer. I make a lot of money essentially waiting on people. We all have jobs. Different jobs. Dentists make a lot of money but have to smell everyone’s lousy breath.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2020 16:18     Subject: Re:Ordering groceries when no one in your family is vulnerable
Anonymous wrote:The thing is, you may not know who is vulnerable. Or infected and contagious. I’m sure my neighbors are sideeyeing our porch, but I’m a slim healthy looking SAH woman in her 30s who actually has a bunch of autoimmune issues and other health concerns. I don’t look like I do and I don’t share this info with anyone apart from my husband.


This is true, but I still go when I can to the grocery store as its one of the few times I do leave. No one believes you if you have chronic pain and health issues if you look healthy so no point in sharing.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2020 16:16     Subject: Ordering groceries when no one in your family is vulnerable
We have always gotten our own. Its one more person touching your food. Not a risk I'd prefer except if I'm sick.