Anonymous wrote:If during the worst period of the pandemic, people were allowed to go to grocery stores, takeout restaurants, etc., why keep the colleges closed now or in the fall?

Because hundreds of sets of 2000-40000+ people don't eat, sleep, socialize at one grocery store/takeout restaurant day in and day out for months and then spread around the country periodically and then return.

If during the worst period of the pandemic, people were allowed to go to grocery stores, takeout restaurants, etc., why keep the colleges closed now or in the fall?

Anonymous wrote:Fine. Debate the issue on the merits of the science. I was responding to the poster who "knew" the virus would kill 1% of the entire population of returning workers, a figure not envisioned in any of the worse case models.

But, you know, the "party of science" and all that happy horseshit.

One poster does not make a generalization about a poster. Clearly they were confused with the estimated 1% mortality rate for symptomatic infected and 1% of the population. That said, careful modeling of universities suggests that they even with social distancing plans in place there's likely and R of 2 and that with the degree of contacts between people on campus it goes to a 60% infection rate very rapidly. There are 20 million students enrolled in colleges and universities in the US, and then all the associated faculty, academic, food and custodial staff, local businesses that serve campus communities etc. Even with a lowest reasonable mortality rate of .2 and the relative young age of the students, we're talking a lot of deaths. Prisons are the closest similar case and there are less than 1/10 the number of total prisoners and associated staff and they have limited ability to infect outside of their institutions.

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Anonymous wrote:I have two daughters who should be going back to college in Fall. If anything them going back to college is far safer than being home virus wise. I say that as both daughters now have lost their summer jobs. Both are doing Instcart and Doordash. It seems all their friends are in gig economy. So they are in multiple supermarkets and restaurants every day. My one daughter is Mall opens will go back.

On top of that majority of older daughters friends including her are going back to college in Fall if virtual or not. My older daughter has three roomates and a lease. The school nearly all Juniors and Seniors live off campus and apartments are not refunding if no school.

So exactly how does not having a Fall session in person help? My older daughter her small college town had zero cases of COVID when she left to head back to DC area with a lot of cases. I dont see point.

Am I only one?

OP - it's simple. Colleges choosing against on-campus Fall sessions contributes to the liberal media hysteria over this virus during a presidential election year. The media's hope is that the continued hysteria will vote the current president out of office.

So Vladimir Putin cancelled MayDay and Fox News has their employees working from home. Are they in on the hysteria?

Fox new reporters are working from home while telling everyone else to go back out there and get back to life as usual. One fox new personality had to backtrack on his claim that the government was making them work from home. News is considered essential so that was totally inaccurate and fox is the one keeping their employees at home to protect them.

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Anonymous wrote:I have two daughters who should be going back to college in Fall. If anything them going back to college is far safer than being home virus wise. I say that as both daughters now have lost their summer jobs. Both are doing Instcart and Doordash. It seems all their friends are in gig economy. So they are in multiple supermarkets and restaurants every day. My one daughter is Mall opens will go back.

On top of that majority of older daughters friends including her are going back to college in Fall if virtual or not. My older daughter has three roomates and a lease. The school nearly all Juniors and Seniors live off campus and apartments are not refunding if no school.

So exactly how does not having a Fall session in person help? My older daughter her small college town had zero cases of COVID when she left to head back to DC area with a lot of cases. I dont see point.

Am I only one?

OP - it's simple. Colleges choosing against on-campus Fall sessions contributes to the liberal media hysteria over this virus during a presidential election year. The media's hope is that the continued hysteria will vote the current president out of office.

Oh yes, they're willing to shut their universities just to get Trump defeated. Mmmhmm.

Not to mention the hit endowments take when the stock market tanks.

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Anonymous wrote:My local SEC college just brought back 24,000 workers back on campus to work. This includes cleaners, landscapers, security, professors and admin.

Statistics say that 240 of them will die.

Cite please, moron. A death rate of 1% of the entire population, not an infected subset?

Serology studies suggest a mortality rate of 0.1% of all infected people, heavily skewed to an older population.

Citation?

For example, https://news.usc.edu/170565/covid-19-antibody-study-coronavirus-infections-los-angeles-county/
It's really unfortunate when science gets infected by politics. Don't think one side has the monopoly on scientific truth. Even better, just ignore people claiming it.

The average overdeath count belies this significantly/