Anonymous
05/24/2020 17:50
Subject: Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And if people can eat in restaurants, we should be able to go to the playground! Ridiculous.
How can you not get this?
At restaurants, they can easily remove tables or leave tables empty. Patrons are pretty immobile once they are seated. Employees can wipe all surfaces in between patrons. You’re in a small group (table) at a restaurant, usually with people from the same household.
At a playground, people are running around, touching the same surfaces. Those same people (kids) are the worst at not touching their eyes, nose and mouth, not keeping masks on or having ill fitting masks. Kids fail to correctly cover sneezes. Kids can’t appropriately keep 6’ apart from others. There is usually no water and soap to wash for 20 seconds.
It is 100% appropriate to open a restaurant before a park.
Except restaurants are inside and playgrounds are outside and the CDC has now said that covid-19 does not actually spread easily on surfaces.
+1. Outdoor is safer and less disease-spreading than indoor.
And kids need to move. Adults don't need to stuff their faces indoors at a restaurant. There is documented spread of COVID in restaurants. There is no evidence of it spreading AT ALL outdoors.
I generally agree with you that outdoors is SAFER, and it won’t prevent me from enjoying the outdoors, I don’t think the chances of transmission outside is zero. For example:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/23/us/arkansas-swim-party-coronavirus/index.html
Anonymous
05/24/2020 17:12
Subject: Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)
Anonymous wrote:For example, Arlington’s percent positive 7 day average has gone from 20.5% on May 12 to 16.4% today. Fairfax has gone from 24.3% to 20.5%. Alexandria from 25.1% to 20.4%.
I’ll add those second numbers were from 5 days ago.
Anonymous
05/24/2020 17:10
Subject: Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)
For example, Arlington’s percent positive 7 day average has gone from 20.5% on May 12 to 16.4% today. Fairfax has gone from 24.3% to 20.5%. Alexandria from 25.1% to 20.4%.
Anonymous
05/24/2020 16:47
Subject: Re:Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)
Anonymous wrote:It makes me so sad that kids are going to lose out the most in all this. No library visits, no playgrounds, no pools, no camps, probably no school in fall. But adults will be able to get their haircuts, workouts, pedicures, and get drunk outside and be too close to each other. It has been 11 weeks at home. We have done everything we can to try to make the most of it and are just running out of options. And soon there will be no online school for at least a bit of structure. Areas like ours are really not getting better and we get to watch kids in less dense regions have an almost normal summer and return to school in the fall. It’s incredibly frustrating. I can feel the depression setting in. Our national and local leaders have failed our children.
I agree to a point. Things are getting better and you still might be able to get to the pool, just not yet.
Anonymous
05/24/2020 14:18
Subject: Re:Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)
It makes me so sad that kids are going to lose out the most in all this. No library visits, no playgrounds, no pools, no camps, probably no school in fall. But adults will be able to get their haircuts, workouts, pedicures, and get drunk outside and be too close to each other. It has been 11 weeks at home. We have done everything we can to try to make the most of it and are just running out of options. And soon there will be no online school for at least a bit of structure. Areas like ours are really not getting better and we get to watch kids in less dense regions have an almost normal summer and return to school in the fall. It’s incredibly frustrating. I can feel the depression setting in. Our national and local leaders have failed our children.
Anonymous
05/24/2020 13:46
Subject: Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And if people can eat in restaurants, we should be able to go to the playground! Ridiculous.
How can you not get this?
At restaurants, they can easily remove tables or leave tables empty. Patrons are pretty immobile once they are seated. Employees can wipe all surfaces in between patrons. You’re in a small group (table) at a restaurant, usually with people from the same household.
At a playground, people are running around, touching the same surfaces. Those same people (kids) are the worst at not touching their eyes, nose and mouth, not keeping masks on or having ill fitting masks. Kids fail to correctly cover sneezes. Kids can’t appropriately keep 6’ apart from others. There is usually no water and soap to wash for 20 seconds.
It is 100% appropriate to open a restaurant before a park.
Except restaurants are inside and playgrounds are outside and the CDC has now said that covid-19 does not actually spread easily on surfaces.
+1. Outdoor is safer and less disease-spreading than indoor.
And kids need to move. Adults don't need to stuff their faces indoors at a restaurant. There is documented spread of COVID in restaurants. There is no evidence of it spreading AT ALL outdoors.
Anonymous
05/24/2020 12:32
Subject: Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And if people can eat in restaurants, we should be able to go to the playground! Ridiculous.
How can you not get this?
At restaurants, they can easily remove tables or leave tables empty. Patrons are pretty immobile once they are seated. Employees can wipe all surfaces in between patrons. You’re in a small group (table) at a restaurant, usually with people from the same household.
At a playground, people are running around, touching the same surfaces. Those same people (kids) are the worst at not touching their eyes, nose and mouth, not keeping masks on or having ill fitting masks. Kids fail to correctly cover sneezes. Kids can’t appropriately keep 6’ apart from others. There is usually no water and soap to wash for 20 seconds.
It is 100% appropriate to open a restaurant before a park.
I can see your point for a playground, but not an outdoor pool. Plenty of states are letting the private pools open.
Anonymous
05/24/2020 11:00
Subject: Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And if people can eat in restaurants, we should be able to go to the playground! Ridiculous.
How can you not get this?
At restaurants, they can easily remove tables or leave tables empty. Patrons are pretty immobile once they are seated. Employees can wipe all surfaces in between patrons. You’re in a small group (table) at a restaurant, usually with people from the same household.
At a playground, people are running around, touching the same surfaces. Those same people (kids) are the worst at not touching their eyes, nose and mouth, not keeping masks on or having ill fitting masks. Kids fail to correctly cover sneezes. Kids can’t appropriately keep 6’ apart from others. There is usually no water and soap to wash for 20 seconds.
It is 100% appropriate to open a restaurant before a park.
Except restaurants are inside and playgrounds are outside and the CDC has now said that covid-19 does not actually spread easily on surfaces.
Anonymous
05/23/2020 18:02
Subject: Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)
Anonymous wrote:And if people can eat in restaurants, we should be able to go to the playground! Ridiculous.
How can you not get this?
At restaurants, they can easily remove tables or leave tables empty. Patrons are pretty immobile once they are seated. Employees can wipe all surfaces in between patrons. You’re in a small group (table) at a restaurant, usually with people from the same household.
At a playground, people are running around, touching the same surfaces. Those same people (kids) are the worst at not touching their eyes, nose and mouth, not keeping masks on or having ill fitting masks. Kids fail to correctly cover sneezes. Kids can’t appropriately keep 6’ apart from others. There is usually no water and soap to wash for 20 seconds.
It is 100% appropriate to open a restaurant before a park.
Anonymous
05/23/2020 17:29
Subject: Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)
And if people can eat in restaurants, we should be able to go to the playground! Ridiculous.
Anonymous
05/23/2020 17:29
Subject: Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)
If outdoor gyms can open, private swimming pools should be able to open.
Anonymous
05/23/2020 17:22
Subject: Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our HOA pool is ready to open. They are going to take reservations for lap swimming for phase 1 and have lifeguards and staff hired and ready for Phase 2.
Same with ours. I’ve already signed up the kids for lap swimming the first week.
Nice. Thumbs up!
Fairfax County Supervisor Herrity posted this tonight. I wonder if it applies to outdoor pools? It seems to me like it should, but will it?
Emergency Proposal to Enter Phase One
GOOD NEWS: On Thursday, The Board will consider an Emergency Ordinance proposal that would permit restaurants and exercise facilities to open outdoors pursuant to Phase One Guidelines. This proposal would allow outdoor dining and fitness and exercise activities at 50% of the permitted interior occupancy. More information to come soon.
I love how they ask to delay and now want to open restaurants and gyms. This week PW supervisors voted 5-3 and asked to open restaurants before moving into Place 1.
Guess what? This isn’t a birthday party. You can’t have cake offered to you, say “no thanks” and then say, “Well, just a small piece please”.
Are you kidding me? Dining in restaurants and gym workouts are not essential. If we are moving into phase 1, then great. F!ck all this.
Anonymous
05/23/2020 16:41
Subject: Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our HOA pool is ready to open. They are going to take reservations for lap swimming for phase 1 and have lifeguards and staff hired and ready for Phase 2.
Same with ours. I’ve already signed up the kids for lap swimming the first week.
Nice. Thumbs up!
Fairfax County Supervisor Herrity posted this tonight. I wonder if it applies to outdoor pools? It seems to me like it should, but will it?
Emergency Proposal to Enter Phase One
GOOD NEWS: On Thursday, The Board will consider an Emergency Ordinance proposal that would permit restaurants and exercise facilities to open outdoors pursuant to Phase One Guidelines. This proposal would allow outdoor dining and fitness and exercise activities at 50% of the permitted interior occupancy. More information to come soon.
I love how they ask to delay and now want to open restaurants and gyms. This week PW supervisors voted 5-3 and asked to open restaurants before moving into Place 1.
Guess what? This isn’t a birthday party. You can’t have cake offered to you, say “no thanks” and then say, “Well, just a small piece please”.
Anonymous
05/23/2020 16:37
Subject: Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our HOA pool is ready to open. They are going to take reservations for lap swimming for phase 1 and have lifeguards and staff hired and ready for Phase 2.
Same with ours. I’ve already signed up the kids for lap swimming the first week.
Nice. Thumbs up!
Fairfax County Supervisor Herrity posted this tonight. I wonder if it applies to outdoor pools? It seems to me like it should, but will it?
Emergency Proposal to Enter Phase One
GOOD NEWS: On Thursday, The Board will consider an Emergency Ordinance proposal that would permit restaurants and exercise facilities to open outdoors pursuant to Phase One Guidelines. This proposal would allow outdoor dining and fitness and exercise activities at 50% of the permitted interior occupancy. More information to come soon.
but isn't NOVA supposed to enter Phase 1 Friday anyway? So this is just one day earlier, hard to see how it makes any difference.
No. NoVA can enter a Phase 1 no earlier than May 29. There is no “supposed to”. The decision hasn’t been made yet (or at least, we have not been told).
Anonymous
05/23/2020 15:43
Subject: Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our HOA pool is ready to open. They are going to take reservations for lap swimming for phase 1 and have lifeguards and staff hired and ready for Phase 2.
Same with ours. I’ve already signed up the kids for lap swimming the first week.
Nice. Thumbs up!
Fairfax County Supervisor Herrity posted this tonight. I wonder if it applies to outdoor pools? It seems to me like it should, but will it?
Emergency Proposal to Enter Phase One
GOOD NEWS: On Thursday, The Board will consider an Emergency Ordinance proposal that would permit restaurants and exercise facilities to open outdoors pursuant to Phase One Guidelines. This proposal would allow outdoor dining and fitness and exercise activities at 50% of the permitted interior occupancy. More information to come soon.
but isn't NOVA supposed to enter Phase 1 Friday anyway? So this is just one day earlier, hard to see how it makes any difference.
Gov. Northam will take the decision, not the Fairfax Board of Supervisors.