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Anonymous wrote:Teachers and kids can wear masks but I have trouble wearing one for more than 15 minutes. Teachers are special and want to scream low pay when here they are paid more than most. They need to do a better curriculum if this continues online.

So does everyone doctor and nurse I know. Do you think anyone likes wearing a mask? NO. but they suck and up and do it for their job.

Nurses and doctors are health care professionals. I dont think just because you do it should make teachers do it.

And i am so sick of the phase suck it up. No, I will NOT.

I feel badly for the situation teachers are facing, but unfortunately, they just aren’t living in reality. A world where school administrations won’t protect teachers from out-of-control children isn’t about to shut down schools so that teachers won’t be exposed to the same germs the rest of the public will get upon reopening. They’re just going to replace the teachers who won’t suck it up with all the graduates who need work. It sucks but that’s life in a pandemic with broke economy.

You think people are going to flock to fill open teacher jobs? Lol! lol! lol!! lol!!!

Not the PP, but, yes, I think many many many new graduates would love to land a teaching job. With the contraction of the economy, 2020 college graduates are going to have a damn hard time getting a job, let alone one that actually starts them on a legit career path.

+1 My background is in finance and the employment market is plummeting. Young graduates, who are also the least at-risk CV group, will definitely be taking jobs others don’t want.

Sure.....they are going to go BACK to school to acquire MORE debt for ANOTHER degree to teach. Young graduates cannot just be teachers. They actually need a teaching degree. Now, I could see licensing standards loosened allowing those unqualified people to substitute long term. (In my state, in order to do long term subbing, you MUST have a teaching degree). But, they ain't gonna pay them 50K a year to start. Those "young grads" are going to make $100 a day. And I guarantee, in a month or less, they're going to run screaming from the job.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you give speeches in mask?

Yes, we do patient rounds on them every day.

That’s very different. Patient rounds involves asking questions and listening. Teachers are constantly talking.

Huh? I'm a teacher, I do plenty of asking questions and listening.

I think that OP is nuts, but she's not wrong about that.

I think PP means talking to someone for 15-20 min in a 12 inch voice rather than 40-45 in a room-sized voice. Think about how your throat feels at the end of the first week of school.

My child’s teacher wears an amplifier for the hearing impaired students, she never raises her voice. It’s pretty cool! They could probably do that when the schools reopen.

You realize that the amplifier doesn't make the teacher's voice more clear or loud for the rest of the class right? The amplifier only "projects" the teacher's voice straight into a hearing aid device the kids with hearing impairments wear. It doesn't work for the general population.

Anonymous wrote:I'm a nurse married to a doctor and we've been working in the hospitals since this began. I work on a Covid unit and my husband works in the ER.
Most of our coworkers have kids as we do too. Many of us do have various health concerns.

We have worn masks religiously since this started. Sometimes we wear a N95 and more recently we wear surgical masks. We wear them non-stop for 12 hour shifts.

It's not fun (the masks are hot, it's a pain) but we've worn them each and every day for almost 2 months. Why can't teachers do this?

I guess after reading this we know why you're not a doctor.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers and kids can wear masks but I have trouble wearing one for more than 15 minutes. Teachers are special and want to scream low pay when here they are paid more than most. They need to do a better curriculum if this continues online.

So does everyone doctor and nurse I know. Do you think anyone likes wearing a mask? NO. but they suck and up and do it for their job.

Nurses and doctors are health care professionals. I dont think just because you do it should make teachers do it.

And i am so sick of the phase suck it up. No, I will NOT.

I feel badly for the situation teachers are facing, but unfortunately, they just aren’t living in reality. A world where school administrations won’t protect teachers from out-of-control children isn’t about to shut down schools so that teachers won’t be exposed to the same germs the rest of the public will get upon reopening. They’re just going to replace the teachers who won’t suck it up with all the graduates who need work. It sucks but that’s life in a pandemic with broke economy.

You think people are going to flock to fill open teacher jobs? Lol! lol! lol!! lol!!!

Not the PP, but, yes, I think many many many new graduates would love to land a teaching job. With the contraction of the economy, 2020 college graduates are going to have a damn hard time getting a job, let alone one that actually starts them on a legit career path.

+1 My background is in finance and the employment market is plummeting. Young graduates, who are also the least at-risk CV group, will definitely be taking jobs others don’t want.

Based on past collision between teacher shortages and bad economies, they will take those positions but not stay in them for long. You can look at the first couple years of the Great Recession.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a nurse married to a doctor and we've been working in the hospitals since this began. I work on a Covid unit and my husband works in the ER.
Most of our coworkers have kids as we do too. Many of us do have various health concerns.

We have worn masks religiously since this started. Sometimes we wear a N95 and more recently we wear surgical masks. We wear them non-stop for 12 hour shifts.

It's not fun (the masks are hot, it's a pain) but we've worn them each and every day for almost 2 months. Why can't teachers do this?

We can. Who said teachers can't wear masks in the fall?

I think the OP’s point is that there is no reason for schools to be shut down now. Teachers could wear masks and be teaching with low risk.

Kids abs staff can bring in the virus and it can spread like wildfire. Kids sit close and share supplies and desks. Then they bring it home to their families. I’ll pass.

Anonymous wrote:...I doubt you are a nurse. Seriously. Are you proposing that the teachers wear masks and the little ones will just do as usual..rubbing boogers all over each other to bring it home to mom, dad and grandma?

There are people amazingly in all professions lacking critical thinking skills.

Anonymous wrote:I’m assuming all of the medical providers who have DIED were wearing at least surgical masks...

I'm a PP who works in healthcare (and I do not understand OP's question at all), but sadly, at the start of this there were many in healthcare who could not get even a surgical mask. Of course some who died had adequate PPE but I would not assume all.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers and kids can wear masks but I have trouble wearing one for more than 15 minutes. Teachers are special and want to scream low pay when here they are paid more than most. They need to do a better curriculum if this continues online.

So does everyone doctor and nurse I know. Do you think anyone likes wearing a mask? NO. but they suck and up and do it for their job.

Nurses and doctors are health care professionals. I dont think just because you do it should make teachers do it.

And i am so sick of the phase suck it up. No, I will NOT.

I feel badly for the situation teachers are facing, but unfortunately, they just aren’t living in reality. A world where school administrations won’t protect teachers from out-of-control children isn’t about to shut down schools so that teachers won’t be exposed to the same germs the rest of the public will get upon reopening. They’re just going to replace the teachers who won’t suck it up with all the graduates who need work. It sucks but that’s life in a pandemic with broke economy.

You think people are going to flock to fill open teacher jobs? Lol! lol! lol!! lol!!!

Not the PP, but, yes, I think many many many new graduates would love to land a teaching job. With the contraction of the economy, 2020 college graduates are going to have a damn hard time getting a job, let alone one that actually starts them on a legit career path.

+1 My background is in finance and the employment market is plummeting. Young graduates, who are also the least at-risk CV group, will definitely be taking jobs others don’t want.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you give speeches in mask?

Yes, we do patient rounds on them every day.

That’s very different. Patient rounds involves asking questions and listening. Teachers are constantly talking.

Huh? I'm a teacher, I do plenty of asking questions and listening.

I think that OP is nuts, but she's not wrong about that.

I think PP means talking to someone for 15-20 min in a 12 inch voice rather than 40-45 in a room-sized voice. Think about how your throat feels at the end of the first week of school.

You must teach really differently than I do. Talking straight at the whole group of kids for 45 minutes? That's terrible instructional practice. I've never noticed my throat getting sore.

You've also been in different hospital rooms that I have. Certainly when we've been in the hospital with my son, the doctor is talking to the entire room,. And yes he/she talks to us for 20 minutes, and then goes next door and does it again, adding up to similar amounts.

I agree that this is a ridiculous solution. I am happy to wear a mask, if evidence shows that it will protect my students, but there's no way that it alone will be enough. Getting us back to school will involve many creative solutions.

But I can argue that a mask isn't enough, without denigrating the front line health care provides, and making it sound like my job is harder than theirs. Healthcare providers are working on their feet all day in masks. And yes, they're talking while they're doing it. Should it be that way? No, they should have enough masks to go see a patient (masked) and then take it off in the hallway and get a break because a new one is available. It would be more comfortable for them, and safer for the patients.

I’m assuming all of the medical providers who have DIED were wearing at least surgical masks...

Anonymous wrote:...I doubt you are a nurse. Seriously. Are you proposing that the teachers wear masks and the little ones will just do as usual..rubbing boogers all over each other to bring it home to mom, dad and grandma?

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It doesn’t even make sense to have only teachers wear a mask.

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Anonymous wrote:Because we need to be maximally hysterical and blow up civilization as we know it.

You're accusing other people of being maximally hysterical?

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers and kids can wear masks but I have trouble wearing one for more than 15 minutes. Teachers are special and want to scream low pay when here they are paid more than most. They need to do a better curriculum if this continues online.

So does everyone doctor and nurse I know. Do you think anyone likes wearing a mask? NO. but they suck and up and do it for their job.

Nurses and doctors are health care professionals. I dont think just because you do it should make teachers do it.

And i am so sick of the phase suck it up. No, I will NOT.

I feel badly for the situation teachers are facing, but unfortunately, they just aren’t living in reality. A world where school administrations won’t protect teachers from out-of-control children isn’t about to shut down schools so that teachers won’t be exposed to the same germs the rest of the public will get upon reopening. They’re just going to replace the teachers who won’t suck it up with all the graduates who need work. It sucks but that’s life in a pandemic with broke economy.

You think people are going to flock to fill open teacher jobs? Lol! lol! lol!! lol!!!

Not the PP, but, yes, I think many many many new graduates would love to land a teaching job. With the contraction of the economy, 2020 college graduates are going to have a damn hard time getting a job, let alone one that actually starts them on a legit career path.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you give speeches in mask?

Yes, we do patient rounds on them every day.

That’s very different. Patient rounds involves asking questions and listening. Teachers are constantly talking.

Huh? I'm a teacher, I do plenty of asking questions and listening.

I think that OP is nuts, but she's not wrong about that.

I think PP means talking to someone for 15-20 min in a 12 inch voice rather than 40-45 in a room-sized voice. Think about how your throat feels at the end of the first week of school.

My child’s teacher wears an amplifier for the hearing impaired students, she never raises her voice. It’s pretty cool! They could probably do that when the schools reopen.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers and kids can wear masks but I have trouble wearing one for more than 15 minutes. Teachers are special and want to scream low pay when here they are paid more than most. They need to do a better curriculum if this continues online.

So does everyone doctor and nurse I know. Do you think anyone likes wearing a mask? NO. but they suck and up and do it for their job.

Nurses and doctors are health care professionals. I dont think just because you do it should make teachers do it.

And i am so sick of the phase suck it up. No, I will NOT.

I feel badly for the situation teachers are facing, but unfortunately, they just aren’t living in reality. A world where school administrations won’t protect teachers from out-of-control children isn’t about to shut down schools so that teachers won’t be exposed to the same germs the rest of the public will get upon reopening. They’re just going to replace the teachers who won’t suck it up with all the graduates who need work. It sucks but that’s life in a pandemic with broke economy.

You think people are going to flock to fill open teacher jobs? Lol! lol! lol!! lol!!!