Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey guys, those wanting pools to open . Pools are not safe, according to our local Health Dep., because of fecal matter traces which may contain the virus.
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/04/23/dr-ezike-swimming-pools-are-not-safe-to-use-during-coronavirus-pandemic-because-of-fecal-shedding/

Unless you have your own pool.

That article is about indoor pools, did you even read it?

CDC:

There is no evidence that the virus that causes COVID-19 can be spread to people through the water in pools, hot tubs, spas, or water play areas. Proper operation and maintenance (including disinfection with chlorine and bromine) of these facilities should inactivate the virus in the water.

This just means they havent studied it. Thry font have an answer. I honestly dont worry about pools. The locker rooms are what will make you sick.

It's not true that it hasn't been studied. WHO and other health organizations have been reporting studies about the effect of chlorine and other routine disinfectants (used in both swimming pools and in drinking water facilities) and their effect on covid-19 and other coronaviruses (as enveloped viruses, they are sensitive to these and killed upon exposure). I agree about the risk of locker room and other human to human transmission near the water however.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what we have to look forward to if we don’t reopen. A 2 mile food line. We’re reopening.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/04/30/coronavirus-latest-news/#link-UHX22A2N25HVPN7UKRICN4SQ7U

+ this. People are going to starve because they can’t afford food anymore and the supply chain is breaking down. It was a shocker at our local grocery store (not in dmv) one onion was almost $4!!

+1

The money is going to run out. That’s when society starts to break down. The cure is about to get way worse than the disease. It is a very privileged idea that we can all just somehow stay at home for much longer.

Way more people are going to die of starvation due to everyone shutting down due to covid than the actual disease itself.

I am not a republican and I can’t stand trump by the way. I’m just seriously worried for the world if we stay shut down much longer.

You all are nuts. The SIP isn’t the main problem. Essential food supply is still open for now, they are only shutting down when too many workers get sick that they can’t operate. So a more widespread disease will actually hurt food supply more.

We are not Africa. We could increase the tax 1% on the to 10%, combined with 0% borrowing rate, provide an endless supply of UBI to those in need to get through the next two years. I think 1/3 of US is already on social security, either retirement or disability. Extending unemployment like we did in 2008 is a reasonable accommodation. We just have to have political will before we have political revolution.

Businesses that are closed now are going to struggle greatly. People are going to be wary of getting sick and customers will be thin on the ground. And employees will be compelled to return to work b/c no longer eligible for unemployment, even if they are high risk.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OPEN OPEN OPEN

I'm a 44 year old SAHM with older "kids" (including a college student.)
Dh is a 50 year old "essential employee" that has been going into the office throughout this whole thing (and taking public transport to get there.)
We haven't really been affected financially by this but our hearts break for those that have.

Not sure why someone would want to listen to a longtime SAHM’s opinion...

Seriously. If she’s 44, the kids are in colleague, and she’s still a sahm then she needs to find a job

Why?

She doesn’t need to get a job. But she should let the grown-ups talk and go do some online shopping or something

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what we have to look forward to if we don’t reopen. A 2 mile food line. We’re reopening.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/04/30/coronavirus-latest-news/#link-UHX22A2N25HVPN7UKRICN4SQ7U

+ this. People are going to starve because they can’t afford food anymore and the supply chain is breaking down. It was a shocker at our local grocery store (not in dmv) one onion was almost $4!!

+1

The money is going to run out. That’s when society starts to break down. The cure is about to get way worse than the disease. It is a very privileged idea that we can all just somehow stay at home for much longer.

Way more people are going to die of starvation due to everyone shutting down due to covid than the actual disease itself.

I am not a republican and I can’t stand trump by the way. I’m just seriously worried for the world if we stay shut down much longer.

What's the difference between indoor and outdoor pool? You think there is not, pardon me my french, fecal shedding in outdoor pools? And do you seriously believe CDC after almost 8 weeks of this? They were the ones who told us not to wear masks, they were the ones doing the "screening" of exposed cruise ship passengers just by taking temperatures upon arrival, and then releasing them into the country, with many sick but asymptomatic at the time, and some have died since?
Have a good swim.

Anonymous wrote:This is what we have to look forward to if we don’t reopen. A 2 mile food line. We’re reopening.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/04/30/coronavirus-latest-news/#link-UHX22A2N25HVPN7UKRICN4SQ7U

+ this. People are going to starve because they can’t afford food anymore and the supply chain is breaking down. It was a shocker at our local grocery store (not in dmv) one onion was almost $4!!

This whole thread is based on a false premise. A healthy (pun intended) majority of Americans support stay-at-home measures. Including a majority of Republicans.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/do-most-republicans-agree-with-people-protesting-stay-at-home-orders/

Just because there are (at least) two sides to every story, does not mean there is a 50/50 division in support.

This reminds me of an old anecdote of a producer's meeting for a nighttime infotainment show, when they were talking about a comet that was getting close to earth. One person asked, "What are the odds it will crash into us?" And another responded, "Well, it could happen or it could not happen, so... 50/50?"

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey guys, those wanting pools to open . Pools are not safe, according to our local Health Dep., because of fecal matter traces which may contain the virus.
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/04/23/dr-ezike-swimming-pools-are-not-safe-to-use-during-coronavirus-pandemic-because-of-fecal-shedding/

Unless you have your own pool.

That article is about indoor pools, did you even read it?

CDC:

There is no evidence that the virus that causes COVID-19 can be spread to people through the water in pools, hot tubs, spas, or water play areas. Proper operation and maintenance (including disinfection with chlorine and bromine) of these facilities should inactivate the virus in the water.

This just means they havent studied it. Thry font have an answer. I honestly dont worry about pools. The locker rooms are what will make you sick.

This is what we have to look forward to if we don’t reopen. A 2 mile food line. We’re reopening.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/04/30/coronavirus-latest-news/#link-UHX22A2N25HVPN7UKRICN4SQ7U

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the half that wants things opened up should be prepared to double their spending to keep the economy going. I’ll be home where it’s safe and saving my money because we are in the middle of a PANDEMIC. So please enjoy yourselves and spend, spend, spend!!!

OP is full of it. The split is more 80% stay close, 20% open — so good luck to businesses opening...

This is the split only when the question is all or nothing. If you asked whether people want a soft opening right now I’d bet at least 60 percent would say yes

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Open!!! Approximately 500 dead in VA and 500,000 unemployed. Just think about that.

What's the going exchange rate between temporary unemployment and death?

Do we ban driving because 40,000 Americans die in traffic accidents each and every year? No, we mitigate risk through safety standards, traffic laws and speed limits. The strategy for COVID is mitigation and to flatten the curve. The goal isn’t, and never was, to keep anyone from getting the virus or (very unfortunately) dying. We have to be realistic about what we can and cannot achieve.

This! Exactly! People who think that isolating for another 3 or 6 months is going to prevent them from getting the virus are delusional. Unless you are willing to wait 18 months until there is (hopefully) a vaccine, you are going to get it. Flattening the curve does not eradicate the virus, both curves have the same number of diagnoses, the only difference is the time over which they occur.

Open. The cure is WAY worse than the disease. Children in other countries are starving from the economic shut down. Huge error in judgement.

^ WHO has said the same thing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey guys, those wanting pools to open . Pools are not safe, according to our local Health Dep., because of fecal matter traces which may contain the virus.
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/04/23/dr-ezike-swimming-pools-are-not-safe-to-use-during-coronavirus-pandemic-because-of-fecal-shedding/

Unless you have your own pool.

That article is about indoor pools, did you even read it?

CDC:

There is no evidence that the virus that causes COVID-19 can be spread to people through the water in pools, hot tubs, spas, or water play areas. Proper operation and maintenance (including disinfection with chlorine and bromine) of these facilities should inactivate the virus in the water.

Anonymous wrote:Well the half that wants things opened up should be prepared to double their spending to keep the economy going. I’ll be home where it’s safe and saving my money because we are in the middle of a PANDEMIC. So please enjoy yourselves and spend, spend, spend!!!

OP is full of it. The split is more 80% stay close, 20% open — so good luck to businesses opening...