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If you’re going to be judgey about everyone’s degree of social distancing, then you need to do a lot better. No takeouts, no walks, and your husband needs to work in a hazmat suit. Otherwise stfu about other people going to the store once a week instead of once every other week.

We're supposed to take walks.

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Anonymous wrote:We have been getting together with one other family and my parents. Two of us have been going to stores (one from each family). We are all aware of the risk and willing to undertake it. For us the risk reduced social contact and support outweighs the virus risk. If anyone wasn't comfortable we would stop.

This makes sense - pairing up with one other family.

Yeah, except she mentioned three families - hers, her parents, and friends. But only two of them have been going to stores? And how often? And how do you know how many packages the other family has gotten? Or your parents? Or how many times someone from one of those families has stopped to chat with a neighbor while grabbing mail, etc. Look, everyone is going to slip up at some point, whether it's getting close to other people, making an unnecessary trip to the store, forgetting to wash their hands after bringing in the mail. Those are acceptable risks within a family because they kind of have to be. But when you triple the number of families you're coming into contact with, you're also tripling the number of contacts you are all having. You say you are all aware of the risk but I don't think you're calculating it correctly. Ask yourself how you would really feel if your parents got sick. You can't backpedal much at that point because it's too late.

My parents have had no contact except with my family. They live way out in the countryside and haven't left their property since March 12th. They don't get deliveries and don't have neighbors close enough that they would ever run into. We have also had zero deliveries in the last month. We go to the store once every two weeks. Our friends also go once every two weeks alternating with us - we pick up some things for the other family if they are low and I do all the shopping for my parents. I wear a mask to the store and change clothes and shower when I get home - mostly to protect my parents. Our friend doesn't do that and she has more contact with neighbors than we do as they live in a very high density area but she isn't in direct contact with my parents. It works for us. We are careful and know the risk. My parents would gladly be out seeing others, they are the least concerned about risk of any of us!

I really don’t think you understand how this all works. You are hanging out with a family that is also going to the store AND not taking a ton of precautions AND is having contact with their other neighbors. It doesn’t matter that your parents don’t go anywhere or don’t have direct contact with your friends, because they are being potentially exposed to the virus through you. You are not being careful or protecting your parents, since you are spending time with them while also spending time with people who are spending time with other people and not being careful. You aren’t actually social distancing, and your risks aren’t minimal. How do you not understand this?

It totally matters that her parents aren't seeing anyone else. They're not a closed network, but they've reduced contact to almost nothing.

It's stupid that people think there's no difference between hanging out with 2 people vs 100 people. There's a massive difference!

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Anonymous wrote:We have been getting together with one other family and my parents. Two of us have been going to stores (one from each family). We are all aware of the risk and willing to undertake it. For us the risk reduced social contact and support outweighs the virus risk. If anyone wasn't comfortable we would stop.

This makes sense - pairing up with one other family.

Yeah, except she mentioned three families - hers, her parents, and friends. But only two of them have been going to stores? And how often? And how do you know how many packages the other family has gotten? Or your parents? Or how many times someone from one of those families has stopped to chat with a neighbor while grabbing mail, etc. Look, everyone is going to slip up at some point, whether it's getting close to other people, making an unnecessary trip to the store, forgetting to wash their hands after bringing in the mail. Those are acceptable risks within a family because they kind of have to be. But when you triple the number of families you're coming into contact with, you're also tripling the number of contacts you are all having. You say you are all aware of the risk but I don't think you're calculating it correctly. Ask yourself how you would really feel if your parents got sick. You can't backpedal much at that point because it's too late.

My parents have had no contact except with my family. They live way out in the countryside and haven't left their property since March 12th. They don't get deliveries and don't have neighbors close enough that they would ever run into. We have also had zero deliveries in the last month. We go to the store once every two weeks. Our friends also go once every two weeks alternating with us - we pick up some things for the other family if they are low and I do all the shopping for my parents. I wear a mask to the store and change clothes and shower when I get home - mostly to protect my parents. Our friend doesn't do that and she has more contact with neighbors than we do as they live in a very high density area but she isn't in direct contact with my parents. It works for us. We are careful and know the risk. My parents would gladly be out seeing others, they are the least concerned about risk of any of us!

I really don’t think you understand how this all works. You are hanging out with a family that is also going to the store AND not taking a ton of precautions AND is having contact with their other neighbors. It doesn’t matter that your parents don’t go anywhere or don’t have direct contact with your friends, because they are being potentially exposed to the virus through you. You are not being careful or protecting your parents, since you are spending time with them while also spending time with people who are spending time with other people and not being careful. You aren’t actually social distancing, and your risks aren’t minimal. How do you not understand this?

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Anonymous wrote:I have been on walks in my neighborhood and out once to do a curbside pick up- where I said my name and they put groceries in my trunk- in the last two and a half weeks. My kids go on walks, play in our driveway/yard, and only see other kids on Zoom. My husband goes to work but sees no one because only a handful of essential people go in. He picks up the take out twice a week and has been to the grocery store once in the past two weeks. It really surprises me how many people aren't doing this. Stay home should mean stay home.

Lol! Case in point. I'm doing it right and don't understand why everyone else is not doing as good as I am at this, meanwhile one of us still goes to work and gets take out.

Haha! That post is amazing.

+1000

We haven't left the house at all! Well, except for my husband who goes to work every day and gets takeout multiple times a week and I still go to the grocery store. But other than that!

Just adding on--that is hilarious. I actually feel badly sometimes that I'm not doing it right, because one of us goes to the store once a week and I run outside without a mask at 6 am everyday (I know, pile on..), and because of this, I do not judge. This lady? Too much!

So I, this lady, go to the store less than you because if you read what I wrote I haven't been to one store in over two weeks. My husband is an essential worker so he is our person who leaves the house and so he goes to the store, and less than you, because as I wrote he went once in the last two weeks- we are leaving the grocery delivery slots for other people in need and I trust my husband in his N95 mask more than other people. We are eating our canned food and not going anywhere except on a walk. We have been encouraged by FFX County to get take out because they have curbside service, it keeps people in need of jobs working, and has been deemed safe because you are very unlikely to spread the virus through food contamination. Again, he is an essential worker, so twice a week he picks up dinner on the way home (usually pizza one night). So, this lady, hasn't been to a store in over two weeks. And my kids haven't interacted with one kid other than themselves. That is social distancing.

If you’re going to be judgey about everyone’s degree of social distancing, then you need to do a lot better. No takeouts, no walks, and your husband needs to work in a hazmat suit. Otherwise stfu about other people going to the store once a week instead of once every other week.

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Anonymous wrote:We have been getting together with one other family and my parents. Two of us have been going to stores (one from each family). We are all aware of the risk and willing to undertake it. For us the risk reduced social contact and support outweighs the virus risk. If anyone wasn't comfortable we would stop.

This makes sense - pairing up with one other family.

Yeah, except she mentioned three families - hers, her parents, and friends. But only two of them have been going to stores? And how often? And how do you know how many packages the other family has gotten? Or your parents? Or how many times someone from one of those families has stopped to chat with a neighbor while grabbing mail, etc. Look, everyone is going to slip up at some point, whether it's getting close to other people, making an unnecessary trip to the store, forgetting to wash their hands after bringing in the mail. Those are acceptable risks within a family because they kind of have to be. But when you triple the number of families you're coming into contact with, you're also tripling the number of contacts you are all having. You say you are all aware of the risk but I don't think you're calculating it correctly. Ask yourself how you would really feel if your parents got sick. You can't backpedal much at that point because it's too late.

My parents have had no contact except with my family. They live way out in the countryside and haven't left their property since March 12th. They don't get deliveries and don't have neighbors close enough that they would ever run into. We have also had zero deliveries in the last month. We go to the store once every two weeks. Our friends also go once every two weeks alternating with us - we pick up some things for the other family if they are low and I do all the shopping for my parents. I wear a mask to the store and change clothes and shower when I get home - mostly to protect my parents. Our friend doesn't do that and she has more contact with neighbors than we do as they live in a very high density area but she isn't in direct contact with my parents. It works for us. We are careful and know the risk. My parents would gladly be out seeing others, they are the least concerned about risk of any of us!

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Anonymous wrote:You can't expect other people to make your decisions and your parenting any easier.

+1. That was true before covid and it's true now.

+2! Amen. And I'm so grateful for like-minded parents who are on the same wave length. It's all hard. Parenting is so hard and it's going to be hard forever.

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Anonymous wrote:I have been on walks in my neighborhood and out once to do a curbside pick up- where I said my name and they put groceries in my trunk- in the last two and a half weeks. My kids go on walks, play in our driveway/yard, and only see other kids on Zoom. My husband goes to work but sees no one because only a handful of essential people go in. He picks up the take out twice a week and has been to the grocery store once in the past two weeks. It really surprises me how many people aren't doing this. Stay home should mean stay home.

Lol! Case in point. I'm doing it right and don't understand why everyone else is not doing as good as I am at this, meanwhile one of us still goes to work and gets take out.

Haha! That post is amazing.

+1000

We haven't left the house at all! Well, except for my husband who goes to work every day and gets takeout multiple times a week and I still go to the grocery store. But other than that!

Just adding on--that is hilarious. I actually feel badly sometimes that I'm not doing it right, because one of us goes to the store once a week and I run outside without a mask at 6 am everyday (I know, pile on..), and because of this, I do not judge. This lady? Too much!

So I, this lady, go to the store less than you because if you read what I wrote I haven't been to one store in over two weeks. My husband is an essential worker so he is our person who leaves the house and so he goes to the store, and less than you, because as I wrote he went once in the last two weeks- we are leaving the grocery delivery slots for other people in need and I trust my husband in his N95 mask more than other people. We are eating our canned food and not going anywhere except on a walk. We have been encouraged by FFX County to get take out because they have curbside service, it keeps people in need of jobs working, and has been deemed safe because you are very unlikely to spread the virus through food contamination. Again, he is an essential worker, so twice a week he picks up dinner on the way home (usually pizza one night). So, this lady, hasn't been to a store in over two weeks. And my kids haven't interacted with one kid other than themselves. That is social distancing.

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Anonymous wrote:We have been getting together with one other family and my parents. Two of us have been going to stores (one from each family). We are all aware of the risk and willing to undertake it. For us the risk reduced social contact and support outweighs the virus risk. If anyone wasn't comfortable we would stop.

This makes sense - pairing up with one other family.

Most people in our neighborhood are doing this. I have no issue with this. It's been months with little contact to the outside world and parents changing clothes and showering after a grocery store run.

It's low risk.

Months?? Really? I count one month, if that. Mid-March.

There are large groups of teenagers walking their dogs together, holding hands and kissing in the alleys when they are far enough away from their parents' houses. These teens are not social distancing, so if your little kids' friends have older siblings, then it is not a safe bet to have those playdates. Some teens are exponentially increasing their families' exposure circles.

We have seen some kids playing together during our walks. I know that there is a group that has played together on one of the pipe stems near us, the Parents told us that they go outside and find the neighbor kids on the trampoline with their kids. The Parents don't seem to be comfortable telling the kids to go home or telling the parents that they are keeping their kids away from other kids.

The hard core distancers are free to laugh at the efforts that others are making. The reality is that many people have made massive changes to their lives and the amount of contact that they have had is a great deal less than they normally would have. DH goes grocery shopping once a week. We have food delivered from a CSA once a week. We have one meal delivered or curbside pick up. We handle the bags wearing gloves, wipe down the boxes and the like with anti bacterial wipes, empty the food from the boxes, remove the gloves, and wash our hands. Mail and Amazon deliveries hang out in the garage or on the porch for 2-3 days before we open them.

At this point, I do wonder about having play dates with friends whose parents we trust. DS is 7 and lonely. We do video chats and he has been doing a great job playing at home and enjoying walks a few times a day but he misses his friends. We have not done that yet but I can't say that I am opposed to the idea.

It might not be perfect but we are not China were the police and military were using speakers and individuals with guns to keep people inside. I just heard a report on NPR that people in China have alarms on their door that sound if they leave their apartments. People need to get food. Some people need to go to work. And yet the massive changes has led to a huge reduction in the curve. NY City is more of an exception then the rule right now. NOVA has a good number of cases but we are not close to swamping the hospitals. People have been doing a good job, even if their standards of distancing do not meet your rigid rules.

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Anonymous wrote:I am tired of talking to people who say they are social distancing but went to Home Depot 3 times in the last 2 days for plants or went to three stores today trying to find yeast. Hold your ground OP. Every little bit counts.

Especially when they say, "OMG I've developed a low grade fever and a cough and I've been strictly socially distancing. We've only been to the grocery store twice a week."

Does your family eat? How exactly do you get food? Do you really think some stranger pawing the food in the grocery store is better? We are all doing the best we can. Get over yourself.

I think the point was that no one needs to be going to the store twice a week.

No, if you really want to do it right, you shouldn’t be going to the store at all. If you’re out of fresh food, start eating the canned food you should have stockpiled weeks ago, or starve.

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Anonymous wrote:I have been on walks in my neighborhood and out once to do a curbside pick up- where I said my name and they put groceries in my trunk- in the last two and a half weeks. My kids go on walks, play in our driveway/yard, and only see other kids on Zoom. My husband goes to work but sees no one because only a handful of essential people go in. He picks up the take out twice a week and has been to the grocery store once in the past two weeks. It really surprises me how many people aren't doing this. Stay home should mean stay home.

Lol! Case in point. I'm doing it right and don't understand why everyone else is not doing as good as I am at this, meanwhile one of us still goes to work and gets take out.

Haha! That post is amazing.

+1000

We haven't left the house at all! Well, except for my husband who goes to work every day and gets takeout multiple times a week and I still go to the grocery store. But other than that!

Just adding on--that is hilarious. I actually feel badly sometimes that I'm not doing it right, because one of us goes to the store once a week and I run outside without a mask at 6 am everyday (I know, pile on..), and because of this, I do not judge. This lady? Too much!

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Anonymous wrote:We have been getting together with one other family and my parents. Two of us have been going to stores (one from each family). We are all aware of the risk and willing to undertake it. For us the risk reduced social contact and support outweighs the virus risk. If anyone wasn't comfortable we would stop.

This makes sense - pairing up with one other family.

Yeah, except she mentioned three families - hers, her parents, and friends. But only two of them have been going to stores? And how often? And how do you know how many packages the other family has gotten? Or your parents? Or how many times someone from one of those families has stopped to chat with a neighbor while grabbing mail, etc. Look, everyone is going to slip up at some point, whether it's getting close to other people, making an unnecessary trip to the store, forgetting to wash their hands after bringing in the mail. Those are acceptable risks within a family because they kind of have to be. But when you triple the number of families you're coming into contact with, you're also tripling the number of contacts you are all having. You say you are all aware of the risk but I don't think you're calculating it correctly. Ask yourself how you would really feel if your parents got sick. You can't backpedal much at that point because it's too late.

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Anonymous wrote:We have been getting together with one other family and my parents. Two of us have been going to stores (one from each family). We are all aware of the risk and willing to undertake it. For us the risk reduced social contact and support outweighs the virus risk. If anyone wasn't comfortable we would stop.

This makes sense - pairing up with one other family.

Most people in our neighborhood are doing this. I have no issue with this. It's been months with little contact to the outside world and parents changing clothes and showering after a grocery store run.

It's low risk.

+1

We did the same. I think the kids are getting antsy playing with the same 2 kids all the time but it’s better than no one

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Anonymous wrote:I have been on walks in my neighborhood and out once to do a curbside pick up- where I said my name and they put groceries in my trunk- in the last two and a half weeks. My kids go on walks, play in our driveway/yard, and only see other kids on Zoom. My husband goes to work but sees no one because only a handful of essential people go in. He picks up the take out twice a week and has been to the grocery store once in the past two weeks. It really surprises me how many people aren't doing this. Stay home should mean stay home.

Lol! Case in point. I'm doing it right and don't understand why everyone else is not doing as good as I am at this, meanwhile one of us still goes to work and gets take out.

Haha! That post is amazing.

+1000

We haven't left the house at all! Well, except for my husband who goes to work every day and gets takeout multiple times a week and I still go to the grocery store. But other than that!