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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what daycares are doing about the PPP loans. Did any receive loans and then continue to charge parents?

I know a bunch in DC applied and if they don’t pass along a cut to parents they are basically double dipping. A requirement for the loans, which are basically grants, is that they have lost income. If they are charging parents full tuition I fail to see how they have lost income.

daycares May still expect payment, but They cannot make people pay if people don’t have the money. From the nature of the parents careers at our center, my guess is that maybe 50% of parents CAN pay because of lost wages and hours. So center has lost about half of their revenue

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what daycares are doing about the PPP loans. Did any receive loans and then continue to charge parents?

Ours applied as soon as applications opened and last I heard, they had not heard back yet. If they get the loan, they say they will use it to discount tuition so they can continue to pay the teachers

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what daycares are doing about the PPP loans. Did any receive loans and then continue to charge parents?

I know a bunch in DC applied and if they don’t pass along a cut to parents they are basically double dipping. A requirement for the loans, which are basically grants, is that they have lost income. If they are charging parents full tuition I fail to see how they have lost income.

Some preschools can't lay off their teachers because their teachers are on yearly contracts.

I'm curious what daycares are doing about the PPP loans. Did any receive loans and then continue to charge parents?

This whole discussion is pointless. Every family is going to do what they are able to, and what they believe is right. Daycare centers should release families from any obligations related to annual contracts or advance notice for disenrollment, to make the decision completely voluntary. Families should not expect to keep their spot if they decide to stop paying, since centers may have to offer those spots to people in their waitlist who may be willing and able to pay for the spot ahead of being able to use it, which happens often. The thread title asking "are we supposed to?", is a false premise. Nobody should be expected to do one thing or the other: they should do what their financial situation and individual sense of fairness dictates. Trying to make your particular circumstances and moral code apply to others is not fair to anyone. Just do your thing and don't judge those who choose to go a different route.

It’s unfair of daycares to expect working parents to pay for a service they aren’t providing and to expect them to cover the costs of teacher’s salaries who aren’t working or are working in a very reduced capacity when they could furlough employees, continue benefits, and have the government pick up the tab in the form of unemployment. The teachers would still get paid, and parents could at least get a Financial break at a time when it’s badly needed. Let the government pick up the tab.

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I realize that many preschools run on very thin margins, but so are many families. What "sacrifice" means for you, may not mean the same for others. Nobody wants their childcare providers to go out of business, but that doesn't mean that families who choose to pull their children out of should be guilted into paying outrageous amounts of money. And yes, to many many working families, $4k is outrageous. As far as established environments and familiar surroundings, perhaps your children are very different, but I can guarantee that mine will be starting over regardless what school she goes to after staying home for 3 months. I agree that paying your childcare is a kind thing to do if you can afford it, but please don't make the rest of us seem heartless because we chose our family financial survival over someone else's

If you could afford it when you were using it, you can afford it even though you're not using it.

Are you paying attention to the news? Even if you didn't lose a job, a lot has changed--salary cuts, lost work hours, *much* lower pay for people who rely primarily on commissions, profit-sharing, or other such models of compensation.

What that proves is... you actually couldn't afford it before, but you were paying for it anyway. You were living beyond your means and lacked any cushion for emergencies.

This is...exactly what everyone is saying. Daycare payments push many parents to the edge of what they can afford but it is worth it for only a few years and in exchange for getting childcare. It is not worth it if we are not getting childcare in return.

Plus, even if parents have not lost jobs yet, they might in the future- so they literally need the money they would pay daycare in order to build a cushion for emergencies.