Republicans are banking on people desperately wanting to believe that it will not happen to them. They are playing into find an "other" to blame and believe that it won't happen to you. Its a hoax. Its China's fault. Its only happening in urban areas like NY. Who cares if New Yorkers or Californians die they aren't you, just get the economy back and your 401K back now because it will hurt them and help you. It goes away in hot weather you are fine. Someone else will sacrifice.

They will cling to this until they are dead which sadly is how it is playing out now.

Anonymous wrote:Yeah because Dems have never been accused of ageism
Dems contradict themselves way too much. They say all Republicans are old white males now say they want all old people to die. They say they didn't want coronavirus to expand in the US yet opposed travel bans in January.

Republicans business interest opposed international and domestic air travel shut down. Stop trying to rewrite history. Only the winner can do not you loser.

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Ugh. If they were just going to kill themselves this way, fine, do what you morons like. But they’ll hold this, get sick and spread their germs everywhere, and then when the going gets rough they won’t go out into a field to die, they’ll suck up more medical services and endanger all those medical workers. That takes it from suicide to murder.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah because Dems have never been accused of ageism
Dems contradict themselves way too much. They say all Republicans are old white males now say they want all old people to die. They say they didn't want coronavirus to expand in the US yet opposed travel bans in January.

The “travel ban” you keep talking about is imaginary.

DP. Yes, it never happened because of the obvious fallout had it been (wisely) implemented. You know - the one where liberals call Trump and anyone who supports said travel ban, "racists."

So Trump, the supposedly strong leader who came to fix Washington sacrificed thousands of lives to prevent Democrats from calling him a name.

Maybe if Biden threatens to call him "loser," he'll resign

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah because Dems have never been accused of ageism
Dems contradict themselves way too much. They say all Republicans are old white males now say they want all old people to die. They say they didn't want coronavirus to expand in the US yet opposed travel bans in January.

The “travel ban” you keep talking about is imaginary.

DP. Yes, it never happened because of the obvious fallout had it been (wisely) implemented. You know - the one where liberals call Trump and anyone who supports said travel ban, "racists."

Anonymous wrote:Yeah because Dems have never been accused of ageism
Dems contradict themselves way too much. They say all Republicans are old white males now say they want all old people to die. They say they didn't want coronavirus to expand in the US yet opposed travel bans in January.

The “travel ban” you keep talking about is imaginary.

Yeah because Dems have never been accused of ageism
Dems contradict themselves way too much. They say all Republicans are old white males now say they want all old people to die. They say they didn't want coronavirus to expand in the US yet opposed travel bans in January.

I would not be shocked if many members of the GOP looked at a million 65- to 95-yo Americans dying as something that would help balance social security, pension system and medicare. That creep Paul Ryan comes to mind.

Yes, many of them literally are.
Yes, in part, they're a death cult.

Many of them are premilennial dispensationalists. The former means that they believe that the end-times, including the rapture and a 1,000 year earth-bound reign of Christ, is beginning now and is appropriate, Biblically pre-ordained destiny. As dispensationalists, they typically believe that the eternal fate of every individual has already been decided.

PmD is particularly common among certain protestant faiths, and is especially common among "independent" protestant denominations. But not all PmD believers are protestant. Some very conservative Catholics are also PmD (especially common among those who reject the current Roman reign). And there are some hyper-orthodox Jews who have adopted a version of PmD that, basically, doesn't have the Jesus parts in their version.

No, you will not commonly find PmDs among Democrats.

Because PmDs believe that the proper, appropriate, ordained, destiny of everyone on earth is to die to be judged, and the death of both believers and unbelievers will cause the believers to be called to an eternal reward either at once (in the rapture) or later (during or after the 1,000 year reign), and promoting these events is inherently good and faithful, it would be perfectly fair to say that the Republican party is in fact a religious death cult.

Repubs are the fu cult.

Nature selection will work its way.

Yes the Republican party is a death cult.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, let’s say you magically were given the power to prevent all about 40,000 traffic related data lies a year simply by preventing the use of motorized transport (public and private). This will make people significantly less mobile and reduce economic output.

What do you do with your powers?

I'm not interested in playing your "but you can ALSO die from THIS thing" games. I'm saying this whole attitude of "heck, let's just YOLO our way through a fcking pandemic because WOO HOO" is deeply, deeply, disturbing. Especially coming from the folks famous for being pro-life, and being All Life Matters fanatics. Who now seem to be accepting - even welcoming - preventable deaths with what seems to be a big old sht eating grin.

As someone who loves life, and loves other people having the opportunity to live, I find it fcking disturbing. Chilling, in fact. Almost like you're ready to ship old people and the injured and disabled to the crematories before they have even succumbed to your blessed disease.

That's a strawman position. I don't know anyone here who is arguing that we should not consider the risks or act in a responsible manner. We just don't think it is helpful to live on the constant edge of paranoia.

Some of us value our sanity even if you don't.

Really? You don't know ANYONE?

How about this guy, who you elected president: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/25/opinion/coronavirus-trump-reopen-america.html

Orrrr how about this: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/older-americans-work-coronavirus-151240

Or this one: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/03/24/covid-19-texas-official-suggests-elderly-willing-die-economy/2905990001/

What about this? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/27/trump-ventilators-coronavirus-cuomo-new-york

It goes on and on and on and on and on. And I can't see how ANYONE feels they are going about a rational life while we have this nihilistic yahoo apparently wiping his butt and calling the smears official policy - we don't have adequate testing, we don't have adequate equipment, we don't have adequate hospital beds, we have almost zero plan or coordination, and we have this orange faced JOKER in the white house looking for all the world like an ACTUAL comic book villain who is telling people to go back to work, go back to school, go back to church.

The rational response is to hide out at home until you feel like the outside world is less hostile - and perhaps, maybe, someone who isn't a malicious criminal with the attention span of a gnat is helping guide the federal response to a PANDEMIC. A PANDEMIC. You can be in the stage of grief where you deny that this is a pandemic. I just saw a news story about a cruise ship with four dead elderly people and a couple hundred sick ones just floating around at sea because there's nowhere they can dock and get treatment for the people who are still alive.

As far as your attachments, to each their own. If someone wants to risk what’s out in the world could potentially kill them then that’s on them. If you want to sit in your house and never do anything, then that’s fine too. If you want to sign up and risk your life for your country so that everyone can be free and live the American dream, then that’s fine too. If you want to jump out of a plane and skydive to the ground, cool. If you want to open your business back up when the president or states allow you cool. If you want to them go to the bar, gym?, store, soccer practice or whatever, cool. Everything has risks. Just hope you don’t die getting there. It is what is is and we all take the risk.

Yes exactly. Closing the world down is ludicrous.

So in cases where your behavior affects my health, what's an acceptable amount of risk I should take before I stop you from doing something?