Anonymous wrote:Ours is too. I’m really upset. Fairly certain none of the parents are considered essential. We are not sending our child back in. It’s an enormous financial hardship for us too as one of us is out of work entirely until this is over. I’m hoping to appeal for 50-75% fee. It a pandemic for the sake of Pete.

And you know that for sure?

You’ve surveyed all the parents and you know their professions?

Ridiculous.

Anonymous wrote:I think some need to be open, and essential workers who need care should be directed there, but it seems like many are trying to open for economic reasons which could be disastrous.

Agree.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not essential service employee, but if my daycare/preschool is open, I will send my kids there. It’s hell working with a 4 and 2 year old. The school does extensive cleaning and sanitizing and I will take my chance. If they are not open, they should not charge us. Simple.

I sympathize with the in home provider who posted and understand that she’s in a tough situation. She needs the money and so she stays open. Parents are not going to willingly pay her if she closes.

Finally someone else has the balls to say what so many of us are thinking but face mutiny if we say a word.

Oh we know you’re saying it. Our school to survey to see if parents wanted it opened or not. I hope your balls are as smug when this goes sideways.

Anonymous wrote:I’m not essential service employee, but if my daycare/preschool is open, I will send my kids there. It’s hell working with a 4 and 2 year old. The school does extensive cleaning and sanitizing and I will take my chance. If they are not open, they should not charge us. Simple.

I sympathize with the in home provider who posted and understand that she’s in a tough situation. She needs the money and so she stays open. Parents are not going to willingly pay her if she closes.

Finally someone else has the balls to say what so many of us are thinking but face mutiny if we say a word.

I think some need to be open, and essential workers who need care should be directed there, but it seems like many are trying to open for economic reasons which could be disastrous.

Anonymous wrote:Ours is too. I’m really upset. Fairly certain none of the parents are considered essential. We are not sending our child back in. It’s an enormous financial hardship for us too as one of us is out of work entirely until this is over. I’m hoping to appeal for 50-75% fee. It a pandemic for the sake of Pete.

Though my post may seem like it’s about our bottom line, I’m mostly concerned for the health of the staff and kids. We’re still in the upswing with covid and asymptomatic spreading seems highly likely.

Ours is too. I’m really upset. Fairly certain none of the parents are considered essential. We are not sending our child back in. It’s an enormous financial hardship for us too as one of us is out of work entirely until this is over. I’m hoping to appeal for 50-75% fee. It a pandemic for the sake of Pete.

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Anonymous wrote:County schools need to do this. Preschool through grade school for essential workers. They have the facilities and the license.

No they don't. MD schools aren't licensed to accommodate kids under 3 years old.

Kids under 3 can’t follow the social distancing guidelines they’re asking childcare facilities to enforce anyway. In my opinion, children under 3 should be with a parent or relative right now if they have an essential worker parent.

And what are single parents who are essential workers supposed to do?

The lack of logical thinking on this board is galling sometimes.

Or kids of two essential workers. My moms neighbor back home is a firefighter in Los Angeles and his wife is a nurse at a major hospital--a lot of firefighters marry nurses, in nromal times they can stagger their shifts/schedules to be around for kids but now they can't. I also have a friend whose husband is military and she works as a home health nurse.

This is rare and can be dealt with on a case by case basis. Most, not all, but most children have two parents who share custody, even if they live in two different households.

I'm not sure what you mean by this- so the parents decide which one of them is "more" essential while the other stays home? There's no one at the county "dealing" with these cases.

If somebody works in an office and can telework, or can take paid or unpaid leave, they’re not essential. Everyone is home with their kids right now. Literally everyone. Needing to work to make money does not make your position into an essential position.

I see. So the grocery clerk who has no paid leave is supposed to take unpaid leave to stay home with his/her kid? Then what happens when he/she can't pay the bills or gets fired because he/she didn't show up to work?

That isn’t just happening to grocery workers. It’s happening to everyone. Federal contractors, general office staffers, childcare workers, retail workers, literally everyone.

No one can pay their bills right now. That doesn’t mean that anyone should be thrown into the line of fire. Especially children.

I get that. However, there are still workers who have to go in and have no other childcare option. That’s why in every state that has done a stay at home order, childcare facilities are considered essential.

Think about this for a minute. I work at a Virginia childcare. We had a zoom staff meeting on Monday. All but two teachers have elementary aged kids at home who will now be there for the remainder of the school year. The two that don’t are older. Who do you propose should go back to work?

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Anonymous wrote:County schools need to do this. Preschool through grade school for essential workers. They have the facilities and the license.

No they don't. MD schools aren't licensed to accommodate kids under 3 years old.

Kids under 3 can’t follow the social distancing guidelines they’re asking childcare facilities to enforce anyway. In my opinion, children under 3 should be with a parent or relative right now if they have an essential worker parent.

And what are single parents who are essential workers supposed to do?

The lack of logical thinking on this board is galling sometimes.

Or kids of two essential workers. My moms neighbor back home is a firefighter in Los Angeles and his wife is a nurse at a major hospital--a lot of firefighters marry nurses, in nromal times they can stagger their shifts/schedules to be around for kids but now they can't. I also have a friend whose husband is military and she works as a home health nurse.

This is rare and can be dealt with on a case by case basis. Most, not all, but most children have two parents who share custody, even if they live in two different households.

I'm not sure what you mean by this- so the parents decide which one of them is "more" essential while the other stays home? There's no one at the county "dealing" with these cases.

If somebody works in an office and can telework, or can take paid or unpaid leave, they’re not essential. Everyone is home with their kids right now. Literally everyone. Needing to work to make money does not make your position into an essential position.

I see. So the grocery clerk who has no paid leave is supposed to take unpaid leave to stay home with his/her kid? Then what happens when he/she can't pay the bills or gets fired because he/she didn't show up to work?

That isn’t just happening to grocery workers. It’s happening to everyone. Federal contractors, general office staffers, childcare workers, retail workers, literally everyone.

No one can pay their bills right now. That doesn’t mean that anyone should be thrown into the line of fire. Especially children.

Essential and non-essential (which aren’t even the official designations at the federal level) are somewhat not relevant here. I work in a place where telework is not possible, so we are working on a very reduced staffing with rotations, and we’re told to isolate when we are not at the office. When there was a furlough, I was non-excepted, and my office shut down entirely. Now, I’m the only person in in my division handling whatever comes along. Of course a lot of longer term projects will slip their schedules, but we’re working.

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EVERY state considers childcare an essential service.

Should you keep your kid home if you can? Yes.

But nurses, doctors, and other essential workers HAVE to have a place for their little kids to go. Many are also trying to accommodate school aged kids of essential employees.

Yes but they aren't limiting it to that. My daycare closed but is running emergency locations and transferring personnel there. They also said you can contact and request care if you are an essential employee and still need to work.

That's fine. Flat reopening is not.

I’m curious how they are treating federal employees- as I understand it, they are being treated as essential by the federal govt but not necessarily at the state level?

I'm a federal employee. It depends on how your agency classifies your job. I am an attorney and our work processing disability claim appeals submitted by individual claimants was deemed "essential" so we worked through the 5 week furlough craziness too. For COVID, we worked last week, this week, and will continue to work. The only change was expansion of telework. I have zero expectations that we will stop working under the "nonessential" classification.

So has anyone’s agency not sent anything about whether you are “essential” or “non-essential”? We were just told to telework- I think even IT staff (who I would consider pretty essential) is teleworking now.

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Anonymous wrote:How many times do I have to say this?! Ok, here goes again:

EVERY state considers childcare an essential service.

Should you keep your kid home if you can? Yes.

But nurses, doctors, and other essential workers HAVE to have a place for their little kids to go. Many are also trying to accommodate school aged kids of essential employees.

Yes but they aren't limiting it to that. My daycare closed but is running emergency locations and transferring personnel there. They also said you can contact and request care if you are an essential employee and still need to work.

That's fine. Flat reopening is not.

I’m curious how they are treating federal employees- as I understand it, they are being treated as essential by the federal govt but not necessarily at the state level?

I'm a federal employee. It depends on how your agency classifies your job. I am an attorney and our work processing disability claim appeals submitted by individual claimants was deemed "essential" so we worked through the 5 week furlough craziness too. For COVID, we worked last week, this week, and will continue to work. The only change was expansion of telework. I have zero expectations that we will stop working under the "nonessential" classification.

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Anonymous wrote:County schools need to do this. Preschool through grade school for essential workers. They have the facilities and the license.

No they don't. MD schools aren't licensed to accommodate kids under 3 years old.

Kids under 3 can’t follow the social distancing guidelines they’re asking childcare facilities to enforce anyway. In my opinion, children under 3 should be with a parent or relative right now if they have an essential worker parent.

And what are single parents who are essential workers supposed to do?

The lack of logical thinking on this board is galling sometimes.

Or kids of two essential workers. My moms neighbor back home is a firefighter in Los Angeles and his wife is a nurse at a major hospital--a lot of firefighters marry nurses, in nromal times they can stagger their shifts/schedules to be around for kids but now they can't. I also have a friend whose husband is military and she works as a home health nurse.

This is rare and can be dealt with on a case by case basis. Most, not all, but most children have two parents who share custody, even if they live in two different households.

I'm not sure what you mean by this- so the parents decide which one of them is "more" essential while the other stays home? There's no one at the county "dealing" with these cases.

If somebody works in an office and can telework, or can take paid or unpaid leave, they’re not essential. Everyone is home with their kids right now. Literally everyone. Needing to work to make money does not make your position into an essential position.

I see. So the grocery clerk who has no paid leave is supposed to take unpaid leave to stay home with his/her kid? Then what happens when he/she can't pay the bills or gets fired because he/she didn't show up to work?

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Anonymous wrote:County schools need to do this. Preschool through grade school for essential workers. They have the facilities and the license.

No they don't. MD schools aren't licensed to accommodate kids under 3 years old.

Kids under 3 can’t follow the social distancing guidelines they’re asking childcare facilities to enforce anyway. In my opinion, children under 3 should be with a parent or relative right now if they have an essential worker parent.

And what are single parents who are essential workers supposed to do?

The lack of logical thinking on this board is galling sometimes.

Or kids of two essential workers. My moms neighbor back home is a firefighter in Los Angeles and his wife is a nurse at a major hospital--a lot of firefighters marry nurses, in nromal times they can stagger their shifts/schedules to be around for kids but now they can't. I also have a friend whose husband is military and she works as a home health nurse.

This is rare and can be dealt with on a case by case basis. Most, not all, but most children have two parents who share custody, even if they live in two different households.

I'm not sure what you mean by this- so the parents decide which one of them is "more" essential while the other stays home? There's no one at the county "dealing" with these cases.

If somebody works in an office and can telework, or can take paid or unpaid leave, they’re not essential. Everyone is home with their kids right now. Literally everyone. Needing to work to make money does not make your position into an essential position.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit I see.

In your bubble it may seem like literally everyone teleworks, but nationwide it is something like 30%.