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Post 03/10/2020 08:30     Subject: Arlington Tournament Seeding-Rant

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Anonymous wrote:How did the seeding match up with the results? Any surprises?


For U11s, probably should have put a few second division teams in the first division (and moved some of the first divisions down). Odd to see Richmond Strikers Elite and Arlington White in a second division in a fairly weak field. NLS Ajax also could have been in top division.
Otherwise, top teams were pretty much as predicted. PWSI looked good - that team has looked strong for a few years and they really did well in this particular tourney.


The parents of the U11 Arlington White were griping that Richmond should have been in the top Bracket...which they should have been.
But they weren't complaining when they beat Bethesda's 4th team.


They will complain about anything.


I think they probably should. This weekend, U11 White just beat PWSI 4-3, which beat U11 Red last week 3-0.


Did the U11s lose some players? They had been one of the best teams in the area over the last few years, and seem to be having a lot of trouble this year.




They have a great white team so players are not the problem. Development is an issue. Kick and run is harder in 9 v 9. Throw and run is harder when you lose a goalkeeper with a cannon. All those years spent doing both means your defenders and midfielders have a tough time retaining possession. And playing a lot of weak opponents in the CCL does not help.


Who is weak at that age in CCL?


SYC is not in it right now, which does not help. I am not going to throw specific CCL teams at this age under the bus. Instead, I'll point you to a lot of good boys teams playing outside CCL and of course get heckled for doing so. VPL has a number of really good teams at this age - Richmond Kickers are probably the best team at this age in state, the Strikers are good, PWSI is really good, GFR Napoli is really good, and VYS is not bad at all. SYC is playing EDP against absolutely first rate teams from Maryland, including Pipeline (which destroyed everybody in U11 top bracket at Jeff Cup), Achilles, Bethesda, Total Futbol. The latter four teams are heads and shoulders above anybody in CCL or in VA right now. And there is another team (SAC/Baltimore Armour Pre-DA) which just played top division U12 in EDP. And of course Arlington White is now playing in the NCSL. So perhaps the CCL can improve a little over time, but right now, there are a lot of good teams outside of it.


Maybe that's Arlington's problem...they don't try challenging themselves.
U11 White is an excellent team, but they're in a NCSL group with a bunch if teams that they should crush in their sleep. How does that help them?


NCSL > CCL2 (where ASA White was in Fall)


ha ha ha ha!


why laugh? hes not wrong. even NCSL > CCL is correct.


At U9/U10 probably. Harder argument beyond that on the boys side because you lose a lot of good clubs to VPL. Just play EDP as in MD. NCSL has the right idea but the clubs keep switching between CCL and NCSL. I think CCL continues to exist simply because coaches love scheduling convenience. I don't really see how the kids or clubs are benefiting, and a lot of the best teams within clubs are already playing outside CCL or other leagues in addition to CCL on the boys side.
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Post 03/10/2020 07:28     Subject: Arlington Tournament Seeding-Rant

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Anonymous wrote:How did the seeding match up with the results? Any surprises?


For U11s, probably should have put a few second division teams in the first division (and moved some of the first divisions down). Odd to see Richmond Strikers Elite and Arlington White in a second division in a fairly weak field. NLS Ajax also could have been in top division.
Otherwise, top teams were pretty much as predicted. PWSI looked good - that team has looked strong for a few years and they really did well in this particular tourney.


The parents of the U11 Arlington White were griping that Richmond should have been in the top Bracket...which they should have been.
But they weren't complaining when they beat Bethesda's 4th team.


They will complain about anything.


I think they probably should. This weekend, U11 White just beat PWSI 4-3, which beat U11 Red last week 3-0.


Did the U11s lose some players? They had been one of the best teams in the area over the last few years, and seem to be having a lot of trouble this year.


They have a great white team so players are not the problem. Development is an issue. Kick and run is harder in 9 v 9. Throw and run is harder when you lose a goalkeeper with a cannon. All those years spent doing both means your defenders and midfielders have a tough time retaining possession. And playing a lot of weak opponents in the CCL does not help.


Who is weak at that age in CCL?


SYC is not in it right now, which does not help. I am not going to throw specific CCL teams at this age under the bus. Instead, I'll point you to a lot of good boys teams playing outside CCL and of course get heckled for doing so. VPL has a number of really good teams at this age - Richmond Kickers are probably the best team at this age in state, the Strikers are good, PWSI is really good, GFR Napoli is really good, and VYS is not bad at all. SYC is playing EDP against absolutely first rate teams from Maryland, including Pipeline (which destroyed everybody in U11 top bracket at Jeff Cup), Achilles, Bethesda, Total Futbol. The latter four teams are heads and shoulders above anybody in CCL or in VA right now. And there is another team (SAC/Baltimore Armour Pre-DA) which just played top division U12 in EDP. And of course Arlington White is now playing in the NCSL. So perhaps the CCL can improve a little over time, but right now, there are a lot of good teams outside of it.


Maybe that's Arlington's problem...they don't try challenging themselves.
U11 White is an excellent team, but they're in a NCSL group with a bunch if teams that they should crush in their sleep. How does that help them?


NCSL > CCL2 (where ASA White was in Fall)


ha ha ha ha!


why laugh? hes not wrong. even NCSL > CCL is correct.
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Post 03/09/2020 21:30     Subject: Arlington Tournament Seeding-Rant

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Anonymous wrote:How did the seeding match up with the results? Any surprises?


For U11s, probably should have put a few second division teams in the first division (and moved some of the first divisions down). Odd to see Richmond Strikers Elite and Arlington White in a second division in a fairly weak field. NLS Ajax also could have been in top division.
Otherwise, top teams were pretty much as predicted. PWSI looked good - that team has looked strong for a few years and they really did well in this particular tourney.


The parents of the U11 Arlington White were griping that Richmond should have been in the top Bracket...which they should have been.
But they weren't complaining when they beat Bethesda's 4th team.


They will complain about anything.


I think they probably should. This weekend, U11 White just beat PWSI 4-3, which beat U11 Red last week 3-0.


Did the U11s lose some players? They had been one of the best teams in the area over the last few years, and seem to be having a lot of trouble this year.


They have a great white team so players are not the problem. Development is an issue. Kick and run is harder in 9 v 9. Throw and run is harder when you lose a goalkeeper with a cannon. All those years spent doing both means your defenders and midfielders have a tough time retaining possession. And playing a lot of weak opponents in the CCL does not help.


Who is weak at that age in CCL?


SYC is not in it right now, which does not help. I am not going to throw specific CCL teams at this age under the bus. Instead, I'll point you to a lot of good boys teams playing outside CCL and of course get heckled for doing so. VPL has a number of really good teams at this age - Richmond Kickers are probably the best team at this age in state, the Strikers are good, PWSI is really good, GFR Napoli is really good, and VYS is not bad at all. SYC is playing EDP against absolutely first rate teams from Maryland, including Pipeline (which destroyed everybody in U11 top bracket at Jeff Cup), Achilles, Bethesda, Total Futbol. The latter four teams are heads and shoulders above anybody in CCL or in VA right now. And there is another team (SAC/Baltimore Armour Pre-DA) which just played top division U12 in EDP. And of course Arlington White is now playing in the NCSL. So perhaps the CCL can improve a little over time, but right now, there are a lot of good teams outside of it.


Maybe that's Arlington's problem...they don't try challenging themselves.
U11 White is an excellent team, but they're in a NCSL group with a bunch if teams that they should crush in their sleep. How does that help them?


NCSL > CCL2 (where ASA White was in Fall)


ha ha ha ha!
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Post 03/09/2020 20:58     Subject: Arlington Tournament Seeding-Rant

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Anonymous wrote:How did the seeding match up with the results? Any surprises?


For U11s, probably should have put a few second division teams in the first division (and moved some of the first divisions down). Odd to see Richmond Strikers Elite and Arlington White in a second division in a fairly weak field. NLS Ajax also could have been in top division.
Otherwise, top teams were pretty much as predicted. PWSI looked good - that team has looked strong for a few years and they really did well in this particular tourney.


The parents of the U11 Arlington White were griping that Richmond should have been in the top Bracket...which they should have been.
But they weren't complaining when they beat Bethesda's 4th team.


They will complain about anything.


I think they probably should. This weekend, U11 White just beat PWSI 4-3, which beat U11 Red last week 3-0.


Did the U11s lose some players? They had been one of the best teams in the area over the last few years, and seem to be having a lot of trouble this year.


They have a great white team so players are not the problem. Development is an issue. Kick and run is harder in 9 v 9. Throw and run is harder when you lose a goalkeeper with a cannon. All those years spent doing both means your defenders and midfielders have a tough time retaining possession. And playing a lot of weak opponents in the CCL does not help.


Who is weak at that age in CCL?


SYC is not in it right now, which does not help. I am not going to throw specific CCL teams at this age under the bus. Instead, I'll point you to a lot of good boys teams playing outside CCL and of course get heckled for doing so. VPL has a number of really good teams at this age - Richmond Kickers are probably the best team at this age in state, the Strikers are good, PWSI is really good, GFR Napoli is really good, and VYS is not bad at all. SYC is playing EDP against absolutely first rate teams from Maryland, including Pipeline (which destroyed everybody in U11 top bracket at Jeff Cup), Achilles, Bethesda, Total Futbol. The latter four teams are heads and shoulders above anybody in CCL or in VA right now. And there is another team (SAC/Baltimore Armour Pre-DA) which just played top division U12 in EDP. And of course Arlington White is now playing in the NCSL. So perhaps the CCL can improve a little over time, but right now, there are a lot of good teams outside of it.


Maybe that's Arlington's problem...they don't try challenging themselves.
U11 White is an excellent team, but they're in a NCSL group with a bunch if teams that they should crush in their sleep. How does that help them?


NCSL > CCL2 (where ASA White was in Fall)
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2020 15:16     Subject: Arlington Tournament Seeding-Rant

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Anonymous wrote:How did the seeding match up with the results? Any surprises?


For U11s, probably should have put a few second division teams in the first division (and moved some of the first divisions down). Odd to see Richmond Strikers Elite and Arlington White in a second division in a fairly weak field. NLS Ajax also could have been in top division.
Otherwise, top teams were pretty much as predicted. PWSI looked good - that team has looked strong for a few years and they really did well in this particular tourney.


The parents of the U11 Arlington White were griping that Richmond should have been in the top Bracket...which they should have been.
But they weren't complaining when they beat Bethesda's 4th team.


They will complain about anything.


I think they probably should. This weekend, U11 White just beat PWSI 4-3, which beat U11 Red last week 3-0.


Did the U11s lose some players? They had been one of the best teams in the area over the last few years, and seem to be having a lot of trouble this year.


They have a great white team so players are not the problem. Development is an issue. Kick and run is harder in 9 v 9. Throw and run is harder when you lose a goalkeeper with a cannon. All those years spent doing both means your defenders and midfielders have a tough time retaining possession. And playing a lot of weak opponents in the CCL does not help.


Who is weak at that age in CCL?


SYC is not in it right now, which does not help. I am not going to throw specific CCL teams at this age under the bus. Instead, I'll point you to a lot of good boys teams playing outside CCL and of course get heckled for doing so. VPL has a number of really good teams at this age - Richmond Kickers are probably the best team at this age in state, the Strikers are good, PWSI is really good, GFR Napoli is really good, and VYS is not bad at all. SYC is playing EDP against absolutely first rate teams from Maryland, including Pipeline (which destroyed everybody in U11 top bracket at Jeff Cup), Achilles, Bethesda, Total Futbol. The latter four teams are heads and shoulders above anybody in CCL or in VA right now. And there is another team (SAC/Baltimore Armour Pre-DA) which just played top division U12 in EDP. And of course Arlington White is now playing in the NCSL. So perhaps the CCL can improve a little over time, but right now, there are a lot of good teams outside of it.


Maybe that's Arlington's problem...they don't try challenging themselves.
U11 White is an excellent team, but they're in a NCSL group with a bunch if teams that they should crush in their sleep. How does that help them?