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Anonymous wrote:If this came as a surprise to you I have to ask:

Where the fvck were you the last 17 years?

I think OP said she wasn't exactly surprised. Whatever her reasoning for not being surprised, it doesn't matter. She still had something in the back of her mind.

We're waiting for DS to come out as gay. He's only 8 so we'll probably have a longish wait. We've known since he was maybe 5. If he doesn't come out, we'll be surprised.

Yup. We’re gay and I’ll be stunned if DS isn’t straight. Sometimes you just know.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Invite your husband to think about whether or not he would like his daughter to kill herself or leave your house and never EVER have anything to do with him ever again. Because that's what he's putting in motion by storming out.

Now, maybe he needed a while to wrap his head around this, but he just rejected his child in a huge way.

I'm reminded of back in the day when my teen cousin declared she was bisexual and had kissed a girl, and my aunt said "how nice" and not another word, and the cousin is now happily married with children.

That's teenagers for you.

Surely you don't think that means she's not bisexual now? Uhm....

Most bisexual women I know ended up with men, but some sure did bang a lot of women on the way...

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FTM or MTF? I know there are some who don’t want to hear it, but this is a trending thing among teenagers. For girls, it’s replaced the cutting and anorexia of past decades as a way of dealing with the pain and anxiety of puberty. I would do what you can to avoid any permanent changes or medical/surgical treatments.

I agree. Some people are very quick to jump on the transgender bandwagon because they see something virtuous and woke in it, but it's only damaging. Odds are the daughter is just using it as an excuse to seek attention or address some internal frustration.

I would suggest the best approach is to simply back out and see how it plays out. If the daughter genuinely thinks she is transgender it will manifest itself in other ways rather than just declaring herself a transgender. "Real" transgenderism is a serious neurosis condition. If she doesn't do anything beyond calling herself a transgender, then she's just seeking attention for other reasons and it will fade away in due time.

Uhhh, WTF?
Closed minded much?
Did you really just say that transgenderism is a serious neurosis condition??

You do know that neurosis is by definition a mental illness, correct??

God, you narrow minded, small people are what's wrong with the world today.

Science and medical issues, my friend, have nothing to do with whether or not one is "closed minded."

No, but your ignorance of both has a lot to do with your close mindedness. Several physicians on this thread have already explained to you that you totally misunderstand the medical terms that you are trying to use, and to the extent that you believe that gender or even biological sex are binary, you don't know much about science.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a tween girl right now and she came out trans I would accept the child, love the child and support the child any which way can and I be happy I have a son.

But, how anyone can say there is no medical/mental condition present when a person's brain does not match the body is beyond me and totally defies any sense of logic. Biology is biology to me and having a mental/medical condition is no judgment about the person. Alas, I will be called transphobic, ignorant, a bully, bad parent, and bigot.

Where exactly did you get your degree in psychology again?

I don't need a psychology degree to use basic logic. I dare to say that many in the medical community think that psychology isn't science at all. These are all excuses to make people feel like rejecting your gender is normal. Come on, we all know "scientific" conclusions can be determined to reach a certain outcome. Happens everyday...

I dare say that a large portion of my patients are MDs, their spouses, and children.

Stop proclaiming things that you know nothing about or at least state: it is my opinion that...

And no, contrary to your belief, scientific conclusions are not just made willy-nilly to fit a scientist's narrative. Do you have any idea how many hours of research and testing goes into proving or disproving a hypothesis?

Sure. One that the funder of the study does or does not want to see.

Yes, that's why we still live in caves and medicine focuses on rectifying the humors, bleeding and fairground patent medicines.

Oh, wait, that's not actually true. We have modern medicine, vaccinations, skyscrapers and all kinds of other good stuff because science works. It's not about "who funded the study."

But clearly education in this country isn't going as well.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Invite your husband to think about whether or not he would like his daughter to kill herself or leave your house and never EVER have anything to do with him ever again. Because that's what he's putting in motion by storming out.

Now, maybe he needed a while to wrap his head around this, but he just rejected his child in a huge way.

I'm reminded of back in the day when my teen cousin declared she was bisexual and had kissed a girl, and my aunt said "how nice" and not another word, and the cousin is now happily married with children.

That's teenagers for you.

Surely you don't think that means she's not bisexual now? Uhm....

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a tween girl right now and she came out trans I would accept the child, love the child and support the child any which way can and I be happy I have a son.

But, how anyone can say there is no medical/mental condition present when a person's brain does not match the body is beyond me and totally defies any sense of logic. Biology is biology to me and having a mental/medical condition is no judgment about the person. Alas, I will be called transphobic, ignorant, a bully, bad parent, and bigot.

Where exactly did you get your degree in psychology again?

I don't need a psychology degree to use basic logic. I dare to say that many in the medical community think that psychology isn't science at all. These are all excuses to make people feel like rejecting your gender is normal. Come on, we all know "scientific" conclusions can be determined to reach a certain outcome. Happens everyday...

I dare say that a large portion of my patients are MDs, their spouses, and children.

Stop proclaiming things that you know nothing about or at least state: it is my opinion that...

And no, contrary to your belief, scientific conclusions are not just made willy-nilly to fit a scientist's narrative. Do you have any idea how many hours of research and testing goes into proving or disproving a hypothesis?

Sure. One that the funder of the study does or does not want to see.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FTM or MTF? I know there are some who don’t want to hear it, but this is a trending thing among teenagers. For girls, it’s replaced the cutting and anorexia of past decades as a way of dealing with the pain and anxiety of puberty. I would do what you can to avoid any permanent changes or medical/surgical treatments.

I agree. Some people are very quick to jump on the transgender bandwagon because they see something virtuous and woke in it, but it's only damaging. Odds are the daughter is just using it as an excuse to seek attention or address some internal frustration.

I would suggest the best approach is to simply back out and see how it plays out. If the daughter genuinely thinks she is transgender it will manifest itself in other ways rather than just declaring herself a transgender. "Real" transgenderism is a serious neurosis condition. If she doesn't do anything beyond calling herself a transgender, then she's just seeking attention for other reasons and it will fade away in due time.

Uhhh, WTF?
Closed minded much?
Did you really just say that transgenderism is a serious neurosis condition??

You do know that neurosis is by definition a mental illness, correct??

God, you narrow minded, small people are what's wrong with the world today.

Science and medical issues, my friend, have nothing to do with whether or not one is "closed minded."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Invite your husband to think about whether or not he would like his daughter to kill herself or leave your house and never EVER have anything to do with him ever again. Because that's what he's putting in motion by storming out.

Now, maybe he needed a while to wrap his head around this, but he just rejected his child in a huge way.

He’s human. He reacted, but give him half a second.

Op, fortunately there are lots of support groups out there for parents and kids. Changing genders is a process. Your DC will probably have their own thoughts on what it means and what steps to take.

Still the same person regardless of pronoun or clothes. Your husband will realize this.

Let your kid know you are there for them no matter what.

I'm human too. And if my DD came to me and announced she was actually a boy, I'd hug her and tell her I love her, whatever gender she feels like she is, and ask what I can do to help her be comfortable in our house.

Sorry, but that's not what I'd tell my DD. And I love her too, more than just about anyone on earth.

Signed, another human

Anonymous wrote:ROGD theory is absolute garbage.

Except that it's happening more and more, now that being transgendered is acceptable in some circles.

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Anonymous wrote:FTM or MTF? I know there are some who don’t want to hear it, but this is a trending thing among teenagers. For girls, it’s replaced the cutting and anorexia of past decades as a way of dealing with the pain and anxiety of puberty. I would do what you can to avoid any permanent changes or medical/surgical treatments.

I agree. Some people are very quick to jump on the transgender bandwagon because they see something virtuous and woke in it, but it's only damaging. Odds are the daughter is just using it as an excuse to seek attention or address some internal frustration.

I would suggest the best approach is to simply back out and see how it plays out. If the daughter genuinely thinks she is transgender it will manifest itself in other ways rather than just declaring herself a transgender. "Real" transgenderism is a serious neurosis condition. If she doesn't do anything beyond calling herself a transgender, then she's just seeking attention for other reasons and it will fade away in due time.

+1

I would love to see the research that transgenderism is not a psychiatric condition. Are there any links to share with peer reviewed research?

*I'm NOT trained

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a tween girl right now and she came out trans I would accept the child, love the child and support the child any which way can and I be happy I have a son.

But, how anyone can say there is no medical/mental condition present when a person's brain does not match the body is beyond me and totally defies any sense of logic. Biology is biology to me and having a mental/medical condition is no judgment about the person. Alas, I will be called transphobic, ignorant, a bully, bad parent, and bigot.

Where exactly did you get your degree in psychology again?

I don't need a psychology degree to use basic logic. I dare to say that many in the medical community think that psychology isn't science at all. These are all excuses to make people feel like rejecting your gender is normal. Come on, we all know "scientific" conclusions can be determined to reach a certain outcome. Happens everyday...

No, only people who don't know much about science believe anything similar to what you're saying. Sure, some people will fake results and make baseless claims. The scientific method has a baked-in way of dealing with that -- results must be capable of being replicated by independent research teams. It's a source of considerable joy to researchers to expose bogus results and fraud in science. This is why science has given us air travel, space travel, antibiotics, cancer treatments, vaccinations, organ transplants, advanced manufacturing, etc.

"Base logic" alone without the scientific method got us caves. And sometimes fire if we were lucky. And burning witches. And worshiping volcanoes. And human sacrifice.

I'm a trained in psychology, but it's my understanding that exactly zero reputable "people in the medical community" think that "psychology isn't science at all." They DO think that there's a crisis of replicability in modern psychology research, which is being addressed by the baked in process of the scientific method --- people are trying to reproduce claims and rejecting research that can't be reproduced.

Also, you may not be aware, but psychology is not the same as psychiatry, which I think is the field primarily concerned when PPs talk about the DSM. Because it's a medical specialty, I'm certain that no reputable physicians think that psychiatry is not a a science.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a tween girl right now and she came out trans I would accept the child, love the child and support the child any which way can and I be happy I have a son.

But, how anyone can say there is no medical/mental condition present when a person's brain does not match the body is beyond me and totally defies any sense of logic. Biology is biology to me and having a mental/medical condition is no judgment about the person. Alas, I will be called transphobic, ignorant, a bully, bad parent, and bigot.

Where exactly did you get your degree in psychology again?

I don't need a psychology degree to use basic logic. I dare to say that many in the medical community think that psychology isn't science at all. These are all excuses to make people feel like rejecting your gender is normal. Come on, we all know "scientific" conclusions can be determined to reach a certain outcome. Happens everyday...

I dare say that a large portion of my patients are MDs, their spouses, and children.

Stop proclaiming things that you know nothing about or at least state: it is my opinion that...

And no, contrary to your belief, scientific conclusions are not just made willy-nilly to fit a scientist's narrative.

Do you have any idea how many hours of research and testing goes into proving or disproving a hypothesis?

Of course she doesn't, because she uses basic logic... basic, narrow-minded, short sighted, intolerant and unsubstantiated logic.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a tween girl right now and she came out trans I would accept the child, love the child and support the child any which way can and I be happy I have a son.

But, how anyone can say there is no medical/mental condition present when a person's brain does not match the body is beyond me and totally defies any sense of logic. Biology is biology to me and having a mental/medical condition is no judgment about the person. Alas, I will be called transphobic, ignorant, a bully, bad parent, and bigot.

Where exactly did you get your degree in psychology again?

I don't need a psychology degree to use basic logic. I dare to say that many in the medical community think that psychology isn't science at all. These are all excuses to make people feel like rejecting your gender is normal. Come on, we all know "scientific" conclusions can be determined to reach a certain outcome. Happens everyday...

I dare say that a large portion of my patients are MDs, their spouses, and children.

Stop proclaiming things that you know nothing about or at least state: it is my opinion that...

And no, contrary to your belief, scientific conclusions are not just made willy-nilly to fit a scientist's narrative. Do you have any idea how many hours of research and testing goes into proving or disproving a hypothesis?