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Post 01/29/2020 14:00     Subject: Re:New poll says Bloomberg is in 4th place

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Anonymous wrote:I highly doubt Bloomberg will get the D nomination, but I am concerned (despite what he has said) that he will stage a third-party run if he doesn't get the nom. I think in that scenario he is more likely to capture Is and draw from center Ds than draw from Trump's support. Hoping to be wrong about that.


Bloomberg is the wild card if he goes independent. He won't win as a third party but no one knows what the outcome will be. He will attract independents, moderate dems and moderate Reps. But who loses the least to Bloomberg, Bernie or Trump? Very, very hard to tell right now. If I had to gamble on anything today, it's that polls will show moderate Republicans and Independents flirting with Bloomberg, but when they see it potentially handing a victory to Bernie they flock to Trump to keep Bernie out.


This right here is why he should be president. The president of the country should not subscribe to the ideology of either far side.


Bloomberg is as far left as any other Dem. Possibly more so in a few ways, as I've yet to hear from Biden or Sanders or Warren if I'm allowed to consume more than 12oz of Pepsi at a time.

I already know Bloomberg says I shouldn't be allowed to.

Will he put me in jail if I drink two sodas in one day?

The fact that he hasn't said he won't is very, very troubling.

Man, you are super upset about soda. But hey I'm with you -- instead let's make a law that says people who drink soda aren't allowed to use our healthcare system unless they pay full price for their healthcare directly OOP without pooled insurance.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2020 13:56     Subject: Re:New poll says Bloomberg is in 4th place

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Anonymous wrote:I highly doubt Bloomberg will get the D nomination, but I am concerned (despite what he has said) that he will stage a third-party run if he doesn't get the nom. I think in that scenario he is more likely to capture Is and draw from center Ds than draw from Trump's support. Hoping to be wrong about that.


Bloomberg is the wild card if he goes independent. He won't win as a third party but no one knows what the outcome will be. He will attract independents, moderate dems and moderate Reps. But who loses the least to Bloomberg, Bernie or Trump? Very, very hard to tell right now. If I had to gamble on anything today, it's that polls will show moderate Republicans and Independents flirting with Bloomberg, but when they see it potentially handing a victory to Bernie they flock to Trump to keep Bernie out.


This right here is why he should be president. The president of the country should not subscribe to the ideology of either far side.


Bloomberg is as far left as any other Dem. Possibly more so in a few ways, as I've yet to hear from Biden or Sanders or Warren if I'm allowed to consume more than 12oz of Pepsi at a time.

I already know Bloomberg says I shouldn't be allowed to.

Will he put me in jail if I drink two sodas in one day?

The fact that he hasn't said he won't is very, very troubling.


Let me say this clearly so you understand it: you are retarded.

Bloomberg levied a tax on large sodas because soda disproportionately contributes to obesity and rising health care costs. Soda drinkers should pre-pay for their health care costs. This is exactly how a free market, Adam Smith-style economy should operate: you pay upfront for the externality costs you impose on the rest of society. This is why heavy taxes are levied on cigarettes. This is the same concept.

You can drink all the damn soda you want. In fact, I would prefer if you waterboard yourself with with Coca-Cola. But in the meantime, you better pay for your diabetes. I'm sick of paying for your gluttonous decision making.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2020 13:52     Subject: Re:New poll says Bloomberg is in 4th place

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I highly doubt Bloomberg will get the D nomination, but I am concerned (despite what he has said) that he will stage a third-party run if he doesn't get the nom. I think in that scenario he is more likely to capture Is and draw from center Ds than draw from Trump's support. Hoping to be wrong about that.


Bloomberg is the wild card if he goes independent. He won't win as a third party but no one knows what the outcome will be. He will attract independents, moderate dems and moderate Reps. But who loses the least to Bloomberg, Bernie or Trump? Very, very hard to tell right now. If I had to gamble on anything today, it's that polls will show moderate Republicans and Independents flirting with Bloomberg, but when they see it potentially handing a victory to Bernie they flock to Trump to keep Bernie out.


This right here is why he should be president. The president of the country should not subscribe to the ideology of either far side.


Bloomberg is as far left as any other Dem tw. Possibly more so in a few ways, as I've yet to hear from Biden or Sanders or Warren if I'm allowed to consume more than 12oz of Pepsi at a time.

I already know Bloomberg says I shouldn't be allowed to.

Will he put me in jail if I drink two sodas in one day?

The fact that he hasn't said he won't is very, very troubling.


Bloomberg has tens of billions in wealth, he’s more right-wing than any Republican, including Trump!

Yes, he’s an nanny state Ivy League grad, but that is not at all about unseating the wealthy+powerful.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2020 13:50     Subject: Re:New poll says Bloomberg is in 4th place

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I highly doubt Bloomberg will get the D nomination, but I am concerned (despite what he has said) that he will stage a third-party run if he doesn't get the nom. I think in that scenario he is more likely to capture Is and draw from center Ds than draw from Trump's support. Hoping to be wrong about that.


Bloomberg is the wild card if he goes independent. He won't win as a third party but no one knows what the outcome will be. He will attract independents, moderate dems and moderate Reps. But who loses the least to Bloomberg, Bernie or Trump? Very, very hard to tell right now. If I had to gamble on anything today, it's that polls will show moderate Republicans and Independents flirting with Bloomberg, but when they see it potentially handing a victory to Bernie they flock to Trump to keep Bernie out.


This right here is why he should be president. The president of the country should not subscribe to the ideology of either far side.


DP: I agree. I think Bloomberg is the only "Dem" who can beat Trump.

But I don't see Dems electing him.


Immediate PP, why on earth do you think that? He’s painfully out of touch!
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2020 13:48     Subject: Re:New poll says Bloomberg is in 4th place

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Anonymous wrote:I highly doubt Bloomberg will get the D nomination, but I am concerned (despite what he has said) that he will stage a third-party run if he doesn't get the nom. I think in that scenario he is more likely to capture Is and draw from center Ds than draw from Trump's support. Hoping to be wrong about that.


Bloomberg is the wild card if he goes independent. He won't win as a third party but no one knows what the outcome will be. He will attract independents, moderate dems and moderate Reps. But who loses the least to Bloomberg, Bernie or Trump? Very, very hard to tell right now. If I had to gamble on anything today, it's that polls will show moderate Republicans and Independents flirting with Bloomberg, but when they see it potentially handing a victory to Bernie they flock to Trump to keep Bernie out.


This right here is why he should be president. The president of the country should not subscribe to the ideology of either far side.


Bloomberg is as far left as any other Dem. Possibly more so in a few ways, as I've yet to hear from Biden or Sanders or Warren if I'm allowed to consume more than 12oz of Pepsi at a time.

I already know Bloomberg says I shouldn't be allowed to.

Will he put me in jail if I drink two sodas in one day?

The fact that he hasn't said he won't is very, very troubling.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2020 13:44     Subject: Re:New poll says Bloomberg is in 4th place

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I highly doubt Bloomberg will get the D nomination, but I am concerned (despite what he has said) that he will stage a third-party run if he doesn't get the nom. I think in that scenario he is more likely to capture Is and draw from center Ds than draw from Trump's support. Hoping to be wrong about that.


Bloomberg is the wild card if he goes independent. He won't win as a third party but no one knows what the outcome will be. He will attract independents, moderate dems and moderate Reps. But who loses the least to Bloomberg, Bernie or Trump? Very, very hard to tell right now. If I had to gamble on anything today, it's that polls will show moderate Republicans and Independents flirting with Bloomberg, but when they see it potentially handing a victory to Bernie they flock to Trump to keep Bernie out.


This right here is why he should be president. The president of the country should not subscribe to the ideology of either far side.

I hate Bernie and even I can’t pretend with a straight face that the extreme sides of the aisle are remotely comparable. There are about seven extremely liberal democrats (and old socialist independent Bernie isn’t one) and the entire goddamn GOP. Maybe they could find it in their misguided little hearts to vote outside their comfort zone. Trump didn’t come from nowhere - he’s the next natural Republican in a crap progression.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2020 13:43     Subject: Re:New poll says Bloomberg is in 4th place

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I highly doubt Bloomberg will get the D nomination, but I am concerned (despite what he has said) that he will stage a third-party run if he doesn't get the nom. I think in that scenario he is more likely to capture Is and draw from center Ds than draw from Trump's support. Hoping to be wrong about that.


Bloomberg is the wild card if he goes independent. He won't win as a third party but no one knows what the outcome will be. He will attract independents, moderate dems and moderate Reps. But who loses the least to Bloomberg, Bernie or Trump? Very, very hard to tell right now. If I had to gamble on anything today, it's that polls will show moderate Republicans and Independents flirting with Bloomberg, but when they see it potentially handing a victory to Bernie they flock to Trump to keep Bernie out.


This right here is why he should be president. The president of the country should not subscribe to the ideology of either far side.


DP: I agree. I think Bloomberg is the only "Dem" who can beat Trump.

But I don't see Dems electing him.

In head-to-head polling in multiple states, multiple of the possible Dems are beating Trump. In many other states it's close enough to be within the margin of error. Bloomberg is most certainly not the only Democrat who can beat Trump. Obviously that doesn't factor in a third-party candidate, but nonetheless.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2020 13:25     Subject: Re:New poll says Bloomberg is in 4th place

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I highly doubt Bloomberg will get the D nomination, but I am concerned (despite what he has said) that he will stage a third-party run if he doesn't get the nom. I think in that scenario he is more likely to capture Is and draw from center Ds than draw from Trump's support. Hoping to be wrong about that.


Bloomberg is the wild card if he goes independent. He won't win as a third party but no one knows what the outcome will be. He will attract independents, moderate dems and moderate Reps. But who loses the least to Bloomberg, Bernie or Trump? Very, very hard to tell right now. If I had to gamble on anything today, it's that polls will show moderate Republicans and Independents flirting with Bloomberg, but when they see it potentially handing a victory to Bernie they flock to Trump to keep Bernie out.


This right here is why he should be president. The president of the country should not subscribe to the ideology of either far side.


DP: I agree. I think Bloomberg is the only "Dem" who can beat Trump.

But I don't see Dems electing him.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2020 12:36     Subject: Re:New poll says Bloomberg is in 4th place

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I highly doubt Bloomberg will get the D nomination, but I am concerned (despite what he has said) that he will stage a third-party run if he doesn't get the nom. I think in that scenario he is more likely to capture Is and draw from center Ds than draw from Trump's support. Hoping to be wrong about that.


Bloomberg is the wild card if he goes independent. He won't win as a third party but no one knows what the outcome will be. He will attract independents, moderate dems and moderate Reps. But who loses the least to Bloomberg, Bernie or Trump? Very, very hard to tell right now. If I had to gamble on anything today, it's that polls will show moderate Republicans and Independents flirting with Bloomberg, but when they see it potentially handing a victory to Bernie they flock to Trump to keep Bernie out.


This right here is why he should be president. The president of the country should not subscribe to the ideology of either far side.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2020 12:33     Subject: Re:New poll says Bloomberg is in 4th place

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I highly doubt Bloomberg will get the D nomination, but I am concerned (despite what he has said) that he will stage a third-party run if he doesn't get the nom. I think in that scenario he is more likely to capture Is and draw from center Ds than draw from Trump's support. Hoping to be wrong about that.


Bloomberg is the wild card if he goes independent. He won't win as a third party but no one knows what the outcome will be. He will attract independents, moderate dems and moderate Reps. But who loses the least to Bloomberg, Bernie or Trump? Very, very hard to tell right now. If I had to gamble on anything today, it's that polls will show moderate Republicans and Independents flirting with Bloomberg, but when they see it potentially handing a victory to Bernie they flock to Trump to keep Bernie out.

Agree its impossible to tell.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2020 12:32     Subject: Re:New poll says Bloomberg is in 4th place

Anonymous wrote:I highly doubt Bloomberg will get the D nomination, but I am concerned (despite what he has said) that he will stage a third-party run if he doesn't get the nom. I think in that scenario he is more likely to capture Is and draw from center Ds than draw from Trump's support. Hoping to be wrong about that.


Bloomberg is the wild card if he goes independent. He won't win as a third party but no one knows what the outcome will be. He will attract independents, moderate dems and moderate Reps. But who loses the least to Bloomberg, Bernie or Trump? Very, very hard to tell right now. If I had to gamble on anything today, it's that polls will show moderate Republicans and Independents flirting with Bloomberg, but when they see it potentially handing a victory to Bernie they flock to Trump to keep Bernie out.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2020 12:18     Subject: Re:New poll says Bloomberg is in 4th place

I highly doubt Bloomberg will get the D nomination, but I am concerned (despite what he has said) that he will stage a third-party run if he doesn't get the nom. I think in that scenario he is more likely to capture Is and draw from center Ds than draw from Trump's support. Hoping to be wrong about that.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2020 11:55     Subject: Re:New poll says Bloomberg is in 4th place

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Anonymous wrote:You leftists need to get out of the city more. You all are clueless!!


It's bubble-vision. Totally prevents them from seeing the world outside the beltway.

eh.. I can say the same to rural people who have never left their tiny little insular towns. Maybe it would open up their eyes. Certainly, many have left those areas to never return. Why do you think that is if rural areas are so wonderful?


I'll agree with you the small town bubble is as isolated as the liberal urban bubble is. The vast majority live in neither. But in ordinary suburbs and ordinary cities.

Define “ordinary city.”


Tampa, Dallas, Kansas City, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Columbus, Denver, Charlotte, Atlanta, Raleigh, Jacksonville, Phoenix, Indianapolis, you get it.

Even in the DC area outside the beltway can fall into this category.


I live just outside Tampa, and grew up in another "ordinary" city, and can tell you that the people I know here share sensibilities with the people on DCUM. I don't doubt there are people who don't share those sensibilities here as well - but my friends, my cohort, are not so different. You have your stereotypes, and they're dumb.


I can look at the voting patterns and statistics to show how wrong you are.

Yes, there are left wing Democrats everywhere, just as there are even Republican and Trump voters in DC. So when people talk about moderate or middle ground or Republican leaning or mildly Democratic leaning districts and regions, just because there's a neighborhood of left wing Bernie supporters doesn't disprove the larger point. Hillsborough County, home to Tampa, was only a "light blue" in the 2016 election map. Not even the darker blue of Miami.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2020 11:25     Subject: Re:New poll says Bloomberg is in 4th place

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You leftists need to get out of the city more. You all are clueless!!


It's bubble-vision. Totally prevents them from seeing the world outside the beltway.

eh.. I can say the same to rural people who have never left their tiny little insular towns. Maybe it would open up their eyes. Certainly, many have left those areas to never return. Why do you think that is if rural areas are so wonderful?


I'll agree with you the small town bubble is as isolated as the liberal urban bubble is. The vast majority live in neither. But in ordinary suburbs and ordinary cities.

Define “ordinary city.”


Tampa, Dallas, Kansas City, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Columbus, Denver, Charlotte, Atlanta, Raleigh, Jacksonville, Phoenix, Indianapolis, you get it.

Even in the DC area outside the beltway can fall into this category.


I live just outside Tampa, and grew up in another "ordinary" city, and can tell you that the people I know here share sensibilities with the people on DCUM. I don't doubt there are people who don't share those sensibilities here as well - but my friends, my cohort, are not so different. You have your stereotypes, and they're dumb.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2020 11:05     Subject: Re:New poll says Bloomberg is in 4th place

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You leftists need to get out of the city more. You all are clueless!!


It's bubble-vision. Totally prevents them from seeing the world outside the beltway.

eh.. I can say the same to rural people who have never left their tiny little insular towns. Maybe it would open up their eyes. Certainly, many have left those areas to never return. Why do you think that is if rural areas are so wonderful?


I'll agree with you the small town bubble is as isolated as the liberal urban bubble is. The vast majority live in neither. But in ordinary suburbs and ordinary cities.

Define “ordinary city.”


Tampa, Dallas, Kansas City, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Columbus, Denver, Charlotte, Atlanta, Raleigh, Jacksonville, Phoenix, Indianapolis, you get it.

Even in the DC area outside the beltway can fall into this category.