Anonymous
Post 01/02/2020 09:15     Subject: What’s wrong with William & Mary?
Williamsburg and Charlottesville were voted most beautiful cities in Va. W&M campus is beautiful. Freshman housing isn’t great but improving. Other housing was great and the Greek houses are really nice. Mild climate. It’s an academic school but my DC doesn’t find it hard or think pressure cooker. VA beach is an hour away. There is also a sailing club as Williamsburg is on the James River which is very wide at that point. The campus is large and adjoins the CW area. It’s a State school with a SLAC feeling. But if you want NYU campus of course that’s not happening.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2020 08:24     Subject: Re:What’s wrong with William & Mary?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As Lou Holtz said he he left the W&M football program in the early 70’s, “too many Mary’s and not enough William’s.”


That was his joke. He said he was happiest there in his autobiography and he would have gladly stayed if W&M had not decided to go Division I-AA.



I think that Coach London is absolutely going to get the team back on track.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2020 08:23     Subject: What’s wrong with William & Mary?
Anonymous wrote:Apart from having a racist and discriminatory history and policies? Apart from slave labour? But, let's name a hall after a former slave and all if good now? I think not.


The efforts to make amends go well beyond that.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2020 05:18     Subject: What’s wrong with William & Mary?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Apart from having a racist and discriminatory history and policies? Apart from slave labour? But, let's name a hall after a former slave and all if good now? I think not.


Take a deep breath. It’s going to be okay.


Yes, and this isn’t England, Canada, or some other land over which Britain had lengthy dominion: it’s “labor” and not “labour.”
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2020 01:45     Subject: Re:What’s wrong with William & Mary?
Anonymous wrote:As Lou Holtz said he he left the W&M football program in the early 70’s, “too many Mary’s and not enough William’s.”


That was his joke. He said he was happiest there in his autobiography and he would have gladly stayed if W&M had not decided to go Division I-AA.

Anonymous
Post 01/01/2020 23:12     Subject: Re:What’s wrong with William & Mary?
As Lou Holtz said he he left the W&M football program in the early 70’s, “too many Mary’s and not enough William’s.”
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2020 22:57     Subject: Re:What’s wrong with William & Mary?
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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious about people who say they wished they went to school in a city. I did. I didn’t do anything off campus, really, because I had no money to do anything. Unless you are in DC, everything costs $$. What would have been different if you were in a city? Truly curious.


Well for starters there are more places to get a part-time job and earn money. There are also more opportunities for internships. My kid takes advantage of the free days or evenings at museums, has volunteered as an usher to see plays or concerts for free. But obviously that stuff doesn't appeal to every college student.


Makes sense. I had a work-study job, then an on-campus job. I can see how fewer off-campus opportunities could make finding a job a problem. Also- do you mean internships during the school year or in the summer? My kids is applying for an in-school internship and is also trying to line something up for the summer after freshman year. He seems to think the opportunities are pretty good?

Thanks for answering- I appreciate the input.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2020 16:27     Subject: Re:What’s wrong with William & Mary?
Anonymous wrote:I’m curious about people who say they wished they went to school in a city. I did. I didn’t do anything off campus, really, because I had no money to do anything. Unless you are in DC, everything costs $$. What would have been different if you were in a city? Truly curious.


Well for starters there are more places to get a part-time job and earn money. There are also more opportunities for internships. My kid takes advantage of the free days or evenings at museums, has volunteered as an usher to see plays or concerts for free. But obviously that stuff doesn't appeal to every college student.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2020 16:19     Subject: What’s wrong with William & Mary?
Anonymous wrote:Apart from having a racist and discriminatory history and policies? Apart from slave labour? But, let's name a hall after a former slave and all if good now? I think not.[/quote. Almist all east coast, older schools have some issue with slavery. Harvard, Yale and Georgetown in particular
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2020 16:13     Subject: What’s wrong with William & Mary?
Anonymous wrote:Apart from having a racist and discriminatory history and policies? Apart from slave labour? But, let's name a hall after a former slave and all if good now? I think not.


Take a deep breath. It’s going to be okay.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2020 16:04     Subject: Re:What’s wrong with William & Mary?
I’m curious about people who say they wished they went to school in a city. I did. I didn’t do anything off campus, really, because I had no money to do anything. Unless you are in DC, everything costs $$. What would have been different if you were in a city? Truly curious.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2020 16:00     Subject: What’s wrong with William & Mary?
Apart from having a racist and discriminatory history and policies? Apart from slave labour? But, let's name a hall after a former slave and all if good now? I think not.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2020 15:52     Subject: Re:What’s wrong with William & Mary?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m an outlier, but I absolutely loved Williamsburg as a student.


I did as well.


I’m an alum and I have to say.... I did not. If I could go back in time and choose a college again I would prioritize an urban or at least large college town location.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2020 15:47     Subject: What’s wrong with William & Mary?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s ok that your kid didn’t get accepted. They wouldn’t have liked it anyway. Anyways.


Spot on, I went there years ago and regret not choosing a different school w/ more social outlets. It’s a pressure cooker for. no. Reason.. like on Friday night no one wants to go out because they are studying.


My freshman at W&M denies that it is a pressure cooker. He says the pre- meds, esp females, seem stressed.... but I think that is true anywhere. He says other kids are stressed, but they probably showed up that way. I think the pressure cooker rep is no longer valid.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2020 04:02     Subject: What’s wrong with William & Mary?
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Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that it doesn’t really have a bright future as a public school. In a time of increased popularity for many Virginia public universities, William & Mary seems to be caught in a downward spiral. Its application numbers are stagnant, its female-male ratio is ridiculous, its acceptance rate has increased to almost 40 percent, its yield rate is terrible, it’s poorly positioned in terms of tech growth, it’s very expensive, and it’s now looking to increase (?) enrollment because it needs the bucks. Discouraging my kid from applying. Is it time for the school to consider becoming a private college or to affiliate with Tech or something?


UNC and Emory have the same gender balance.


For 2018 entering class, UVA was 57% female, VCU 64%, JMU 59%, Longwood 69%, CNU 56%, MWU 66%, Radford 59%, ODU 53%. Only male majority were VT at 55% male and VMI at 83% male. GMU was 50/50. UNC-CH was 59% female. National is close to 58 percent.



VCU is 64%? That’s insane!



Not really. Colleges are now 60% female on average— or more. VCU is known for fine arts and health sciences. Women are more than half of men school admits and much higher than that at the nursing and other lower level health sciences. They also dominate fine arts. Just like no one should be shocked VT has more me. Supply and demand.


For some reason, W&M is often the one cited for gender imbalance. Gender imbalance is the new norm. W&M is right at the national average, is only 2 points from UVA, and is below a number of the other schools in the state.