Anonymous
12/27/2019 11:10
Subject: Re:We “cured” DD’s childhood obesity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, this is probably the most helpful and common-sense post I’ve ever seen about childhood obesity. I come from a family of eating disorder sufferers and your post doesn’t have that tone to me at all. Hope the backlash you’re getting isn’t stinging too bad. OPs get attacked on virtually any topic on this site for some reason. Best wishes to you and your child. Great work.
Can you share a bit more regarding how long it took, how you explained it to your child, etc? This is such great info about a problem that is really common.
It took about 2 years to get outside the “obese” range. The goal was not for DD to lose weight, just to maintain while growing taller. As for telling DD, the MD didn’t pull us aside to discuss it. Basically everything in the OP, MD said in front of DD. So we have told her that the MD felt she wasn’t getting enough fruit and veg (and we still pull that out as needed, “remember Dr. Larlo said you need to eat all your veggies”). But always a focus on health. The sport part, I told her she doesn’t have to do anything she doesn’t want to, but does have to do something, again, because Dr. Larlo said she needs it for her health. And that was a difficult and expensive process. But now that she has her preferred sports it’s a breeze. She totally sees herself as an athlete and supplements at home without being prompted to (eg stretching or doing a yoga video). That’s also been naturally reinforcing. DD gets external praise for her athletic improvement so she wants to keep investing in it.
Honestly this still seems like an eating disorder in progress. Hopefully not, but keep an eye out for it.
To eat more fruits and veggies is an eating disorder? To move more? She is adopting a healthy lifestyle.
Anonymous
12/27/2019 11:09
Subject: Re:We “cured” DD’s childhood obesity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, this is probably the most helpful and common-sense post I’ve ever seen about childhood obesity. I come from a family of eating disorder sufferers and your post doesn’t have that tone to me at all. Hope the backlash you’re getting isn’t stinging too bad. OPs get attacked on virtually any topic on this site for some reason. Best wishes to you and your child. Great work.
Can you share a bit more regarding how long it took, how you explained it to your child, etc? This is such great info about a problem that is really common.
It took about 2 years to get outside the “obese” range. The goal was not for DD to lose weight, just to maintain while growing taller. As for telling DD, the MD didn’t pull us aside to discuss it. Basically everything in the OP, MD said in front of DD. So we have told her that the MD felt she wasn’t getting enough fruit and veg (and we still pull that out as needed, “remember Dr. Larlo said you need to eat all your veggies”). But always a focus on health. The sport part, I told her she doesn’t have to do anything she doesn’t want to, but does have to do something, again, because Dr. Larlo said she needs it for her health. And that was a difficult and expensive process. But now that she has her preferred sports it’s a breeze. She totally sees herself as an athlete and supplements at home without being prompted to (eg stretching or doing a yoga video). That’s also been naturally reinforcing. DD gets external praise for her athletic improvement so she wants to keep investing in it.
Great update and it sounds like this is sustainable as a routine.
Anonymous
12/27/2019 11:08
Subject: Re:We “cured” DD’s childhood obesity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, this is probably the most helpful and common-sense post I’ve ever seen about childhood obesity. I come from a family of eating disorder sufferers and your post doesn’t have that tone to me at all. Hope the backlash you’re getting isn’t stinging too bad. OPs get attacked on virtually any topic on this site for some reason. Best wishes to you and your child. Great work.
Can you share a bit more regarding how long it took, how you explained it to your child, etc? This is such great info about a problem that is really common.
It took about 2 years to get outside the “obese” range. The goal was not for DD to lose weight, just to maintain while growing taller. As for telling DD, the MD didn’t pull us aside to discuss it. Basically everything in the OP, MD said in front of DD. So we have told her that the MD felt she wasn’t getting enough fruit and veg (and we still pull that out as needed, “remember Dr. Larlo said you need to eat all your veggies”). But always a focus on health. The sport part, I told her she doesn’t have to do anything she doesn’t want to, but does have to do something, again, because Dr. Larlo said she needs it for her health. And that was a difficult and expensive process. But now that she has her preferred sports it’s a breeze. She totally sees herself as an athlete and supplements at home without being prompted to (eg stretching or doing a yoga video). That’s also been naturally reinforcing. DD gets external praise for her athletic improvement so she wants to keep investing in it.
Honestly this still seems like an eating disorder in progress. Hopefully not, but keep an eye out for it.
Anonymous
12/27/2019 11:08
Subject: Re:We “cured” DD’s childhood obesity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you have worked in your own disordered view of eating, which is great. Your DD has probably developed some similar patterns given how much energy you seem to have focused on her food choices since babyhood (no puffs?!) so hopefully you continue to work on yourself.
NP. Eating more fruits and vegetables and exercising is not disordered eating. What an odd thing to say.
Dp - Not that. The idea that certain fruits were bad or that puffs were junk food etc. Setting up a lifetime of disordered eating in this child.
Puffs are junk food.
Anonymous
12/27/2019 11:04
Subject: Re:We “cured” DD’s childhood obesity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, this is probably the most helpful and common-sense post I’ve ever seen about childhood obesity. I come from a family of eating disorder sufferers and your post doesn’t have that tone to me at all. Hope the backlash you’re getting isn’t stinging too bad. OPs get attacked on virtually any topic on this site for some reason. Best wishes to you and your child. Great work.
Can you share a bit more regarding how long it took, how you explained it to your child, etc? This is such great info about a problem that is really common.
I'm sorry she seriously lead with her infant sucked down every drop. Well, that's what some infants do. It's obviously she is the one with the disassociation to reality in terms of her child's eating habits. 90 minutes of exercise daily sure, wonderful and obsessive. Her description of apples or grapes prior to her discovering they are good foods?
This will not turn out well.
I mention that only because I think people assume parents do/don’t do something that “causes” a child to become obese (I probably thought that). There was no point where my child changed and started to gain weight more quickly. She always was the way she was.
Anonymous
12/27/2019 11:03
Subject: Re:We “cured” DD’s childhood obesity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, this is probably the most helpful and common-sense post I’ve ever seen about childhood obesity. I come from a family of eating disorder sufferers and your post doesn’t have that tone to me at all. Hope the backlash you’re getting isn’t stinging too bad. OPs get attacked on virtually any topic on this site for some reason. Best wishes to you and your child. Great work.
Can you share a bit more regarding how long it took, how you explained it to your child, etc? This is such great info about a problem that is really common.
It took about 2 years to get outside the “obese” range. The goal was not for DD to lose weight, just to maintain while growing taller. As for telling DD, the MD didn’t pull us aside to discuss it. Basically everything in the OP, MD said in front of DD. So we have told her that the MD felt she wasn’t getting enough fruit and veg (and we still pull that out as needed, “remember Dr. Larlo said you need to eat all your veggies”). But always a focus on health. The sport part, I told her she doesn’t have to do anything she doesn’t want to, but does have to do something, again, because Dr. Larlo said she needs it for her health. And that was a difficult and expensive process. But now that she has her preferred sports it’s a breeze. She totally sees herself as an athlete and supplements at home without being prompted to (eg stretching or doing a yoga video). That’s also been naturally reinforcing. DD gets external praise for her athletic improvement so she wants to keep investing in it.
Good job, good post. A lot of adults would be well served by eating more veggies and moving more too!
Anonymous
12/27/2019 11:01
Subject: We “cured” DD’s childhood obesity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cured????
Your poor child.
OP took action to address her child's obesity. That's better than denial. Right?
No not really when she thinks she "cured" her child.
She's obsessed with how much her child weighs, how she looks to others. 90 minutes of exercise every day? Seriously something wrong with her thought process. Of course we all want our children at a healthy weight. Of course we all want our children to be healthy eaters. Who starts out thinking an apple or grape is bad? Sorry not buying her post as being healthy for her child. This will backfire later for sure.
No way is 90 minutes of exercise too much. It was not too long ago that kids had hours of exercise each day from riding their bikes all over town and also doing physical yard work
for their families and/or working on the farm.
Good job good post.
Anonymous
12/27/2019 11:01
Subject: We “cured” DD’s childhood obesity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why did you think bananas and apples and grapes aren't healthy?
Np. Because they are full of sugar. Most endocrinologists (diabetes experts) will tell you to limit high-sugar fruits like banana and grapes.
No, they won't, not unless you have diabetes or are eating 12 bananas a day. Bananas and grapes in a normal amount are perfectly fine.
I can totally see how a normal person would view grapes and apples that way. I grew up watching Oprah deal with her weight. The big weight loss via protein shakes and then seeing her regain it all. Finally she got a nutritionist who helped her lose a reasonable amount in a supposedly healthy way. I distinctly remember her recalling how she'd keep a bowl of grapes on the kitchen counter and whenever she passed through the kitchen, she'd pop one in her mouth. Her nutritionist taught her that grapes were akin to candy-- lots of sugar and relatively free of nutrients. This was a big lesson for her. And for those of us who grew up watching her.
Likewise, have you ever read a DCUM thread about apple juice? The horror! Yes, juice is different from fresh apples, but if you're poised to view some fruits as candy-ish, then it's not hard to see apples as having less nutrition as well.
Anonymous
12/27/2019 11:00
Subject: Re:We “cured” DD’s childhood obesity
Anonymous wrote:OP, this is probably the most helpful and common-sense post I’ve ever seen about childhood obesity. I come from a family of eating disorder sufferers and your post doesn’t have that tone to me at all. Hope the backlash you’re getting isn’t stinging too bad. OPs get attacked on virtually any topic on this site for some reason. Best wishes to you and your child. Great work.
Can you share a bit more regarding how long it took, how you explained it to your child, etc? This is such great info about a problem that is really common.
It took about 2 years to get outside the “obese” range. The goal was not for DD to lose weight, just to maintain while growing taller. As for telling DD, the MD didn’t pull us aside to discuss it. Basically everything in the OP, MD said in front of DD. So we have told her that the MD felt she wasn’t getting enough fruit and veg (and we still pull that out as needed, “remember Dr. Larlo said you need to eat all your veggies”). But always a focus on health. The sport part, I told her she doesn’t have to do anything she doesn’t want to, but does have to do something, again, because Dr. Larlo said she needs it for her health. And that was a difficult and expensive process. But now that she has her preferred sports it’s a breeze. She totally sees herself as an athlete and supplements at home without being prompted to (eg stretching or doing a yoga video). That’s also been naturally reinforcing. DD gets external praise for her athletic improvement so she wants to keep investing in it.
Anonymous
12/27/2019 11:00
Subject: We “cured” DD’s childhood obesity
Thanks for sharing, OP. It sounds like a great approach.
Anonymous
12/27/2019 10:57
Subject: Re:We “cured” DD’s childhood obesity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, this is probably the most helpful and common-sense post I’ve ever seen about childhood obesity. I come from a family of eating disorder sufferers and your post doesn’t have that tone to me at all. Hope the backlash you’re getting isn’t stinging too bad. OPs get attacked on virtually any topic on this site for some reason. Best wishes to you and your child. Great work.
Can you share a bit more regarding how long it took, how you explained it to your child, etc? This is such great info about a problem that is really common.
I'm sorry she seriously lead with her infant sucked down every drop. Well, that's what some infants do. It's obviously she is the one with the disassociation to reality in terms of her child's eating habits. 90 minutes of exercise daily sure, wonderful and obsessive. Her description of apples or grapes prior to her discovering they are good foods?
This will not turn out well.
NP. Not all infants do suck down every drop! I breastfed and then almost exclusively pumped. My babies (9.5lbers) never finished their bottles. I always had way more milk than they'd drink. OP just meant that some babies are just born hungry and with bigger appetites. I have one 3 year old who will suck on a chocolate chip cookie for an hour (and probably still not finish) and my other child will eat it all and manage to steal his sister's.
Anonymous
12/27/2019 10:54
Subject: Re:We “cured” DD’s childhood obesity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with you people? Avoiding giving her child processed foods like puffs doesn't mean she's obsessed or that her eating is disordered. There is so much misinformation out there about diet and nutrition. OP admitted that had bought into some of that misinformation like believing that fruits that are higher in sugar aren't healthy. She has now changed her thinking after following the advice of her doctor. Jeez, give her a break. Good job OP. It's not easy to change habits and beliefs around diet and it sounds like you've made a lot of progress with your daughter.
Most foods are processed.
Yogurt is processed. Bread is processed. Cheese is processed. Granola is processed. Pasta is processed. Nearly everything we eat is produced using a process.
Is there nutritional value in puffs?
Oops. Or are they good because of the no choking factor?
Anonymous
12/27/2019 10:53
Subject: Re:We “cured” DD’s childhood obesity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with you people? Avoiding giving her child processed foods like puffs doesn't mean she's obsessed or that her eating is disordered. There is so much misinformation out there about diet and nutrition. OP admitted that had bought into some of that misinformation like believing that fruits that are higher in sugar aren't healthy. She has now changed her thinking after following the advice of her doctor. Jeez, give her a break. Good job OP. It's not easy to change habits and beliefs around diet and it sounds like you've made a lot of progress with your daughter.
Most foods are processed.
Yogurt is processed. Bread is processed. Cheese is processed. Granola is processed. Pasta is processed. Nearly everything we eat is produced using a process.
Is there nutritional value in puffs?
Anonymous
12/27/2019 10:53
Subject: We “cured” DD’s childhood obesity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why did you think bananas and apples and grapes aren't healthy?
Np. Because they are full of sugar. Most endocrinologists (diabetes experts) will tell you to limit high-sugar fruits like banana and grapes.
No, they won't, not unless you have diabetes or are eating 12 bananas a day. Bananas and grapes in a normal amount are perfectly fine.
Anonymous
12/27/2019 10:51
Subject: Re:We “cured” DD’s childhood obesity
Anonymous wrote:OP, this is probably the most helpful and common-sense post I’ve ever seen about childhood obesity. I come from a family of eating disorder sufferers and your post doesn’t have that tone to me at all. Hope the backlash you’re getting isn’t stinging too bad. OPs get attacked on virtually any topic on this site for some reason. Best wishes to you and your child. Great work.
Can you share a bit more regarding how long it took, how you explained it to your child, etc? This is such great info about a problem that is really common.
I'm sorry she seriously lead with her infant sucked down every drop. Well, that's what some infants do. It's obviously she is the one with the disassociation to reality in terms of her child's eating habits. 90 minutes of exercise daily sure, wonderful and obsessive. Her description of apples or grapes prior to her discovering they are good foods?
This will not turn out well.