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Anonymous wrote:I've been thinking about a moment in the last episode of Season 2. It's the scene where pregnant Love and her mother are waving to Joe from the front door of the house as he walks up on the sidewalk. The camera then focuses on something behind Joe, like a man putting something in his truck, or someone mowing the lawn?! Even though I watched this scene twice I couldn't decipher what was happening in that moment. What was the camera focusing on, what was Joe supposed to be looking at? It seemed important enough for the camera to shift focus, but I couldn't figure it out. It appeared that Joe looked back at something, but it was lost on me. Anyone know?

I was curious so I rewatched this part. Joe isn’t looking at anything in particular. He glances at the movers loading boxes, then at a couple pushing a baby stroller. As he looks around the pretty neighborhood, he ruminates that “not every Siberia is cold.” By the look on his face, and those words, my take is that even though he’s thrilled to be a father (soon), he’s also depressed by all the awful things he and Love have done and will have to live with.

My take is that he was depressed because he's realized that Love isn't the perfect woman he thought she was. He idealizes perfect, untarnished, and innocent women - even though they usually aren't really like that in reality, he projects his need for a perfect little woman on them anyways. He did this with both Beck and Love. Thus, it was a horrifying shock for him to find out that Love isn't the perfect woman he imagined her to be - she's a murderer, a liar, etc. She's thus "tarnished goods" to him even though she's tarnished because she's done the EXACT things that he himself has done. And now, he is trapped in this harsh reality of imperfection with seemingly no escape. This is why he's depressed and already eying the next "perfect" woman.

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Anonymous wrote:I've been thinking about a moment in the last episode of Season 2. It's the scene where pregnant Love and her mother are waving to Joe from the front door of the house as he walks up on the sidewalk. The camera then focuses on something behind Joe, like a man putting something in his truck, or someone mowing the lawn?! Even though I watched this scene twice I couldn't decipher what was happening in that moment. What was the camera focusing on, what was Joe supposed to be looking at? It seemed important enough for the camera to shift focus, but I couldn't figure it out. It appeared that Joe looked back at something, but it was lost on me. Anyone know?

I was curious so I rewatched this part. Joe isn’t looking at anything in particular. He glances at the movers loading boxes, then at a couple pushing a baby stroller. As he looks around the pretty neighborhood, he ruminates that “not every Siberia is cold.” By the look on his face, and those words, my take is that even though he’s thrilled to be a father (soon), he’s also depressed by all the awful things he and Love have done and will have to live with.

I thought he was mostly depressed by the thought of living in the soulless suburbs. But maybe I'm projecting.

Anonymous wrote:I have so many questions.

Is Love really pregnant?

What's in it for her? She knows Joe wants to off her.

Did she kill her first husband?

Forty was the best part of the second season. Without him, there's no dramatic tension with Love.

Are they living in Pasadena? What's up with the random suburban setting?

Is Candice back?

I think she is really pregnant.

Crazy wants crazy.

It was hinted he died of an illness. However, that idea will make a good plot for next season.

Agree. But he was also so annoying. I didn’t want him to die.

Don’t know if that’s Pasadena but with a family on the way Love’s family probably moved them to a safe neighborhood with good schools.

Candace is dead. She was stabbed with a glass bottle right in the neck. No way she could survive that.

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Anonymous wrote:Penn Badgley is so hot in this show. If I met him on the street I'd think he was a dork but as a stalker, he's so sexy. I might need a therapist.

REALLY? I don’t find him sexy at all. He’s way too skinny and looks sickly.

Ew same agreed and so nerdy and unattractive. I can’t stand him. Beck would’ve never wanted him in real life

I have so many questions.

Is Love really pregnant?

What's in it for her? She knows Joe wants to off her.

Did she kill her first husband?

Forty was the best part of the second season. Without him, there's no dramatic tension with Love.

Are they living in Pasadena? What's up with the random suburban setting?

Is Candice back?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did Love's husband die?

He was sick (cancer?).

This is what I assumed.

Anonymous wrote:I've been thinking about a moment in the last episode of Season 2. It's the scene where pregnant Love and her mother are waving to Joe from the front door of the house as he walks up on the sidewalk. The camera then focuses on something behind Joe, like a man putting something in his truck, or someone mowing the lawn?! Even though I watched this scene twice I couldn't decipher what was happening in that moment. What was the camera focusing on, what was Joe supposed to be looking at? It seemed important enough for the camera to shift focus, but I couldn't figure it out. It appeared that Joe looked back at something, but it was lost on me. Anyone know?

I was curious so I rewatched this part. Joe isn’t looking at anything in particular. He glances at the movers loading boxes, then at a couple pushing a baby stroller. As he looks around the pretty neighborhood, he ruminates that “not every Siberia is cold.” By the look on his face, and those words, my take is that even though he’s thrilled to be a father (soon), he’s also depressed by all the awful things he and Love have done and will have to live with.

Anonymous wrote:How did Love's husband die?

He was sick (cancer?).

How did Love's husband die?

I've been thinking about a moment in the last episode of Season 2. It's the scene where pregnant Love and her mother are waving to Joe from the front door of the house as he walks up on the sidewalk. The camera then focuses on something behind Joe, like a man putting something in his truck, or someone mowing the lawn?! Even though I watched this scene twice I couldn't decipher what was happening in that moment. What was the camera focusing on, what was Joe supposed to be looking at? It seemed important enough for the camera to shift focus, but I couldn't figure it out. It appeared that Joe looked back at something, but it was lost on me. Anyone know?

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Anonymous wrote:While I didn’t hate this season, I felt the flow, pace and characters were all better in season one. The characters in season two (with the exception of Joe and Ellie) just didn’t make sense. I was really disappointed with how they did Delilah.

Delilah may have been smart, but her vocal fry and Valley Girl persona was a HUGE turnoff.

She was smart and the way they had her die was out of character. I was really disappointed. I was also fine with her persona.

I agree. Everything about her character said she was a survivor, or at least wouldn’t go down without a fight, and then they just off’ed her.

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Anonymous wrote:While I didn’t hate this season, I felt the flow, pace and characters were all better in season one. The characters in season two (with the exception of Joe and Ellie) just didn’t make sense. I was really disappointed with how they did Delilah.

Delilah may have been smart, but her vocal fry and Valley Girl persona was a HUGE turnoff.

She was smart and the way they had her die was out of character. I was really disappointed. I was also fine with her persona.

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Anonymous wrote:How could anyone think it’s his mom next door? The woman has young looking skin and is clearly reader. Joe’s mom wasn’t a reader and she’d be at least late 50s/60 by now. I would like to see where she wound up though. Maybe Joe killed her?

Why do you say the mom was clearly not a reader? Because she was sleeping around? The most promiscuous girls I knew in college were the lit majors!

Not PP but when she tells him to pack she says something like, "and don't bring any of those silly books you like so much". A fellow book lover wouldn't say that, at least not the way she said it

Good point.
-DP

Anonymous wrote:While I didn’t hate this season, I felt the flow, pace and characters were all better in season one. The characters in season two (with the exception of Joe and Ellie) just didn’t make sense. I was really disappointed with how they did Delilah.

Delilah may have been smart, but her vocal fry and Valley Girl persona was a HUGE turnoff.

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Anonymous wrote:How could anyone think it’s his mom next door? The woman has young looking skin and is clearly reader. Joe’s mom wasn’t a reader and she’d be at least late 50s/60 by now. I would like to see where she wound up though. Maybe Joe killed her?

Why do you say the mom was clearly not a reader? Because she was sleeping around? The most promiscuous girls I knew in college were the lit majors!

Um, ok. I said that because nothing in Joe’s flashbacks indicate his mother was a reader or interested in anything but the wrong men. It would make more sense if he attributed his love of reading to his mom, but nothing of that kind has ever even been hinted at.