Anonymous wrote:I bet OP is a SJW who keeps voting for the far left socialists in DC and then wonders why nothing is working.

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Anonymous wrote:Authoritarian societies where everyone is forcefully held to a certain standard of behavior are often used as backdrops to dystopian novels, and obviously real-life attempts have never been good. Yet the more time I spend in DC, the more a zero-tolerance approach to decorum seems appealing. Imagine a world with no crime, no nuisance, no break-ins, no package thefts, no litter, no panhandlers, no encampments, no one hurtling obscenities at you while you're walking down the street. In exchange, all you have to do is not be a criminal or nuisance yourself. Those who abide by the rules experience a comfortable and prosperous life. Those who don't are swiftly dealt with. Where do the noncompliant people go? Not sure. Rounded up and relocated to a commune where they could be reeducated or permanently quarantined from law-abiding members of society?

This is just a small fantasy I have as I go about my daily life in DC. Someone broke into a car in front of my house in the middle of the afternoon. WTF.

The people who propose these things, always assume that the zero-tolerance would be aimed at OTHER people.

This! Go live in China as a Uighur if you're so enlightened.

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And by the way... do you really think it is appropriate to judge an 18th century man by 21st century standards?

Yes, yes it is appropriate. I don't know where the myth that the founding fathers didn't know any better came from. Even during the 1700s, there were abolitionists and people advocating for better treatment of women. The slaveowners and other white men of the time did not realize that owning and abusing people was wrong; they just accepted it as something one did to maintain his position at the top of the social and economic power hierarchy.

So yes, I judge them harshly.

But then why does DC turn around 250 years later and erect, with public funds no less, a statute of a modem-day racist and misogynist, Marion Barry?! That’s f’cked up.

Anonymous wrote:I bet OP is a SJW who keeps voting for the far left socialists in DC and then wonders why nothing is working.

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Anonymous wrote:They should give people a tent, or a shipping container, or a shed from Home Depot -- something cheap that can give them some privacy and a shred of dignity.

I don’t want to live in a place where homeless and crazy people have tents and shacks strewn about all over public property and parks. Look at what L.A. is dealing with right now. You want that for dc?

No thanks.

You'd prefer they be more visible?

No I'd prefer they be given one-way bus tickets to Kentucky or Iowa or Alabama or some other red state. Just get rid of them, far enough that they can't come back. Send them to some state filled with rethuglicans, they created the homeless problem with their shitty economy, killing jobs and taxes, let them deal with the consequences of that. Get them out of here.

Isnt the economy better now than under Obama?

Obama CREATED this economy, not trump.

Uh, no.

Bush pushed us to the point of economic catastrophe, and Obama saved us from going over the edge. I worked at the International Monetary Fund right before 2008 and people were writing memos about "The impending financial world collapse." It was dire. So then Obama absolutely came up with economic policies that saved us.

So there's a Democrat sandwiched between a disastrous Republican president (who also dragged us into an endless war...) and this one. I haven't seen any benefit of the "roaring economy" that was posted in another thread but I'm pretty sure Trump is going to ruin the economy just like he's bankrupted all of his businesses so far....

Presidents alone don’t save or destroy the country’s economy.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry. I left out a word in my quote of Ben Franklin.

The correct quote reads as follows:

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

That’s a false dichotomy written by a misogynistic slave owner.

How do you know that Ben Franklin was a misogynist?

You're pretty quick to throw that word around

And by the way... do you really think it is appropriate to judge an 18th century man by 21st century standards?

Yes, yes it is appropriate. I don't know where the myth that the founding fathers didn't know any better came from. Even during the 1700s, there were abolitionists and people advocating for better treatment of women. The slaveowners and other white men of the time did not realize that owning and abusing people was wrong; they just accepted it as something one did to maintain his position at the top of the social and economic power hierarchy.

So yes, I judge them harshly.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry. I left out a word in my quote of Ben Franklin.

The correct quote reads as follows:

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

That’s a false dichotomy written by a misogynistic slave owner.

Don't know much about history, eh?

I’ll put my education up against yours any day.

If I were you, I’d be more concerned about my critical thinking and analytical skills...

Racist says what?

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry. I left out a word in my quote of Ben Franklin.

The correct quote reads as follows:

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

That’s a false dichotomy written by a misogynistic slave owner.

Don't know much about history, eh?

I’ll put my education up against yours any day.

If I were you, I’d be more concerned about my critical thinking and analytical skills...

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Anonymous wrote:They should give people a tent, or a shipping container, or a shed from Home Depot -- something cheap that can give them some privacy and a shred of dignity.

I don’t want to live in a place where homeless and crazy people have tents and shacks strewn about all over public property and parks. Look at what L.A. is dealing with right now. You want that for dc?

No thanks.

You'd prefer they be more visible?

No I'd prefer they be given one-way bus tickets to Kentucky or Iowa or Alabama or some other red state. Just get rid of them, far enough that they can't come back. Send them to some state filled with rethuglicans, they created the homeless problem with their shitty economy, killing jobs and taxes, let them deal with the consequences of that. Get them out of here.

Isnt the economy better now than under Obama?

Obama CREATED this economy, not trump.

Uh, no.

Bush pushed us to the point of economic catastrophe, and Obama saved us from going over the edge. I worked at the International Monetary Fund right before 2008 and people were writing memos about "The impending financial world collapse." It was dire. So then Obama absolutely came up with economic policies that saved us.

So there's a Democrat sandwiched between a disastrous Republican president (who also dragged us into an endless war...) and this one. I haven't seen any benefit of the "roaring economy" that was posted in another thread but I'm pretty sure Trump is going to ruin the economy just like he's bankrupted all of his businesses so far....

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry. I left out a word in my quote of Ben Franklin.

The correct quote reads as follows:

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

That’s a false dichotomy written by a misogynistic slave owner.

How do you know that Ben Franklin was a misogynist?

You're pretty quick to throw that word around

And by the way... do you really think it is appropriate to judge an 18th century man by 21st century standards?

Yes, yes it is appropriate. I don't know where the myth that the founding fathers didn't know any better came from. Even during the 1700s, there were abolitionists and people advocating for better treatment of women. The slaveowners and other white men of the time did not realize that owning and abusing people was wrong; they just accepted it as something one did to maintain his position at the top of the social and economic power hierarchy.

So yes, I judge them harshly.

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Anonymous wrote:They should give people a tent, or a shipping container, or a shed from Home Depot -- something cheap that can give them some privacy and a shred of dignity.

I don’t want to live in a place where homeless and crazy people have tents and shacks strewn about all over public property and parks. Look at what L.A. is dealing with right now. You want that for dc?

No thanks.

You'd prefer they be more visible?

No I'd prefer they be given one-way bus tickets to Kentucky or Iowa or Alabama or some other red state. Just get rid of them, far enough that they can't come back. Send them to some state filled with rethuglicans, they created the homeless problem with their shitty economy, killing jobs and taxes, let them deal with the consequences of that. Get them out of here.

Isnt the economy better now than under Obama?

Obama CREATED this economy, not trump.

Uh, no.

Bush pushed us to the point of economic catastrophe, and Obama saved us from going over the edge. I worked at the International Monetary Fund right before 2008 and people were writing memos about "The impending financial world collapse." It was dire. So then Obama absolutely came up with economic policies that saved us.

So there's a Democrat sandwiched between a disastrous Republican president (who also dragged us into an endless war...) and this one. I haven't seen any benefit of the "roaring economy" that was posted in another thread but I'm pretty sure Trump is going to ruin the economy just like he's bankrupted all of his businesses so far....