Anonymous
Post 12/13/2019 18:08     Subject: MCPS nxt Boundary Analysis December 14 at White Oak Middle Oak,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh no, so many tired racists of being called racist!


Look I get it. Your mind is made up. You think MoCo is segregated and THE ONLY solution is busing. My mind is not made up and I’d like to hear what others have to say. You calling them racists and/or segregationists silences some people, just as those who booed or heckled at the meeting silenced people. Both are power plays and not helpful if you want a solution people will buy into.


They need to be silenced. I am tired of white people privilege and narrative. I am tired of African Americans being told to get over it and it is their fault they are still poor and uneducated and can't afford a place in a better school. Same goes for Hispanic population. It is more their country than white peoples! None of the "get over narrative" has a spec of truth in it! Imagine if in 1600 you arrived here and you were shackled for the next 450 years? Even when you got your "freedom" white people would not provide buses for AA kids and did provide for white kids. Imagine schools teaching you(as recent California standard tried to put in) that only those AAs who didn't observe the societal norms of racial behavior got lunched! Oh, if only they obeyed, they would be fine! Now, imagine the whole society that has put negative images of AA males who are dangerous and women who speak their mind are called hysterical? Imagine walking into a store, and someone following you the whole time? Even though you earn more than the guard at the store? Racists need to shut up or get educated. AA people only got a chance to walk, to walk a few decades ago due to persistent racism in this country. And I am not even AA! So, quite frankly, white people in the U.S. need to start acknowledging that even those that claim are enlightened propagate racism and are racist. You are all in favor of no racism as long as your witness is not touched.


Silenced? Wow.

Then the African American parents who spoke at the meeting? Watch the video before you stick your foot in your mouth again.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2019 18:01     Subject: MCPS nxt Boundary Analysis December 14 at White Oak Middle Oak,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh no, so many tired racists of being called racist!


Look I get it. Your mind is made up. You think MoCo is segregated and THE ONLY solution is busing. My mind is not made up and I’d like to hear what others have to say. You calling them racists and/or segregationists silences some people, just as those who booed or heckled at the meeting silenced people. Both are power plays and not helpful if you want a solution people will buy into.


They need to be silenced. I am tired of white people privilege and narrative. I am tired of African Americans being told to get over it and it is their fault they are still poor and uneducated and can't afford a place in a better school. Same goes for Hispanic population. It is more their country than white peoples! None of the "get over narrative" has a spec of truth in it! Imagine if in 1600 you arrived here and you were shackled for the next 450 years? Even when you got your "freedom" white people would not provide buses for AA kids and did provide for white kids. Imagine schools teaching you(as recent California standard tried to put in) that only those AAs who didn't observe the societal norms of racial behavior got lunched! Oh, if only they obeyed, they would be fine! Now, imagine the whole society that has put negative images of AA males who are dangerous and women who speak their mind are called hysterical? Imagine walking into a store, and someone following you the whole time? Even though you earn more than the guard at the store? Racists need to shut up or get educated. AA people only got a chance to walk, to walk a few decades ago due to persistent racism in this country. And I am not even AA! So, quite frankly, white people in the U.S. need to start acknowledging that even those that claim are enlightened propagate racism and are racist. You are all in favor of no racism as long as your witness is not touched.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2019 17:53     Subject: MCPS nxt Boundary Analysis December 14 at White Oak Middle Oak,
Well, maybe it would help if you gave them some examples and constructive ideas. People are listening and learning.

(Also, you’re never going to help some people but the vast majority will be open to your suggestions.)
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2019 17:52     Subject: Re:MCPS nxt Boundary Analysis December 14 at White Oak Middle Oak,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When Silver Creek was going through the assessment of which students would attend, the lower income families in Rock Creek area wanted to go there over Westland. They did not want to sit on a bus as long as it took to get to Westland. Now Silver Creek is high FARMS and Westland is overly white. Are those in favor of redistributing students thinking it’s better for some to go to Westland over Silver Creek because of diversity. And same for sending Westland students to Silver Creek? Despite the long bus rides. Which means if that happens the same voices will complain about lengthy bus rides a couple years later. All so odd how opinions change from one extreme to another and back in the theory of its the right thing now.

How long would the bus ride be? Westland is over capacity. More like, some from Westland would go to Silver Creek.

But, I'm confused. I am looking at Silver Creek At a glance, and there doesn't seem to be any 8th graders. Where did the 8th graders go?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/03835.pdf


They hadn't gotten there yet.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2019 17:51     Subject: MCPS nxt Boundary Analysis December 14 at White Oak Middle Oak,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh no, so many tired racists of being called racist!


Look I get it. Your mind is made up. You think MoCo is segregated and THE ONLY solution is busing. My mind is not made up and I’d like to hear what others have to say. You calling them racists and/or segregationists silences some people, just as those who booed or heckled at the meeting silenced people. Both are power plays and not helpful if you want a solution people will buy into.



Nobody is calling ALL opponents racists and segregationists. But the fact is: some of the opponents are espousing racist and segregationist beliefs. And calling them racists/segregationists sure doesn't seem to be silencing them. I wish it did, but it doesn't.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2019 17:48     Subject: MCPS nxt Boundary Analysis December 14 at White Oak Middle Oak,
Anonymous wrote:Oh no, so many tired racists of being called racist!


Look I get it. Your mind is made up. You think MoCo is segregated and THE ONLY solution is busing. My mind is not made up and I’d like to hear what others have to say. You calling them racists and/or segregationists silences some people, just as those who booed or heckled at the meeting silenced people. Both are power plays and not helpful if you want a solution people will buy into.

Anonymous
Post 12/13/2019 17:44     Subject: Re:MCPS nxt Boundary Analysis December 14 at White Oak Middle Oak,
Anonymous wrote:When Silver Creek was going through the assessment of which students would attend, the lower income families in Rock Creek area wanted to go there over Westland. They did not want to sit on a bus as long as it took to get to Westland. Now Silver Creek is high FARMS and Westland is overly white. Are those in favor of redistributing students thinking it’s better for some to go to Westland over Silver Creek because of diversity. And same for sending Westland students to Silver Creek? Despite the long bus rides. Which means if that happens the same voices will complain about lengthy bus rides a couple years later. All so odd how opinions change from one extreme to another and back in the theory of its the right thing now.

How long would the bus ride be? Westland is over capacity. More like, some from Westland would go to Silver Creek.

But, I'm confused. I am looking at Silver Creek At a glance, and there doesn't seem to be any 8th graders. Where did the 8th graders go?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/03835.pdf
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2019 17:40     Subject: Re:MCPS nxt Boundary Analysis December 14 at White Oak Middle Oak,
When Silver Creek was going through the assessment of which students would attend, the lower income families in Rock Creek area wanted to go there over Westland. They did not want to sit on a bus as long as it took to get to Westland. Now Silver Creek is high FARMS and Westland is overly white. Are those in favor of redistributing students thinking it’s better for some to go to Westland over Silver Creek because of diversity. And same for sending Westland students to Silver Creek? Despite the long bus rides. Which means if that happens the same voices will complain about lengthy bus rides a couple years later. All so odd how opinions change from one extreme to another and back in the theory of its the right thing now.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2019 17:36     Subject: MCPS nxt Boundary Analysis December 14 at White Oak Middle Oak,
Oh no, so many tired racists of being called racist!
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2019 16:34     Subject: MCPS nxt Boundary Analysis December 14 at White Oak Middle Oak,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Before coming down too hard on the parents who have the courage to speak up, you might want to Google the consultant and what they are doing in Brooklyn and Queens before attending. Parents (who want to simply provide comments) aren’t racist segregationists there either.

Is anyone other than me curious about why an architectural firm is doing the consulting? Aren’t there educational policy consultants out there who could do this (spoiler alert: yes, there are).

Wait, you think there aren’t racist segregationists in Brooklyn and Queens?


Tired of the rhetoric that anyone who wants to voice an opinion on this is a racist segregationist. Let’s debate these issues and collaborate.


Tired of the rhetoric that people are calling anyone who wants to voice an opinion on this a racist segregationist. If you want to collaborate, then stop accusing the people you want to collaborate with of unjustly accusing you.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2019 16:14     Subject: MCPS nxt Boundary Analysis December 14 at White Oak Middle Oak,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids are already going to a high school that is further than two other high schools. I think it would be good to reevaluate boundaries.

Exactly. This study isn't just about busing kids further out. It also will look at how our current boundaries are drawn, and some make no sense, like those islands.

Let's listen to what the study is about and not jump to conclusions. Will there be boundaries redrawn afterwards? Yes. Will some of us be unhappy? Yes. But first let's look at the study.


THANK YOU
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2019 15:46     Subject: MCPS nxt Boundary Analysis December 14 at White Oak Middle Oak,
Anonymous wrote:My kids are already going to a high school that is further than two other high schools. I think it would be good to reevaluate boundaries.

Exactly. This study isn't just about busing kids further out. It also will look at how our current boundaries are drawn, and some make no sense, like those islands.

Let's listen to what the study is about and not jump to conclusions. Will there be boundaries redrawn afterwards? Yes. Will some of us be unhappy? Yes. But first let's look at the study.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2019 15:06     Subject: MCPS nxt Boundary Analysis December 14 at White Oak Middle Oak,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Before coming down too hard on the parents who have the courage to speak up, you might want to Google the consultant and what they are doing in Brooklyn and Queens before attending. Parents (who want to simply provide comments) aren’t racist segregationists there either.

Is anyone other than me curious about why an architectural firm is doing the consulting? Aren’t there educational policy consultants out there who could do this (spoiler alert: yes, there are).

Wait, you think there aren’t racist segregationists in Brooklyn and Queens?




i think there are racist segregation in Manhattan and Brooklyn, why they don’t start there?


Ahm.. because MCPS does not operate there? Just a wild guess.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2019 15:05     Subject: MCPS nxt Boundary Analysis December 14 at White Oak Middle Oak,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Before coming down too hard on the parents who have the courage to speak up, you might want to Google the consultant and what they are doing in Brooklyn and Queens before attending. Parents (who want to simply provide comments) aren’t racist segregationists there either.

Is anyone other than me curious about why an architectural firm is doing the consulting? Aren’t there educational policy consultants out there who could do this (spoiler alert: yes, there are).

Wait, you think there aren’t racist segregationists in Brooklyn and Queens?




i think there are racist segregation in Manhattan and Brooklyn, why they don’t start there?
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2019 14:59     Subject: MCPS nxt Boundary Analysis December 14 at White Oak Middle Oak,
Howard got the ball rolling. Although it will take MCPS much longer to redistrict, the system will push ahead b/c of Howard.