Anonymous wrote:^ I don’t know about that. I see plenty of men post. I mean isn’t it worth it to exchange ideas even if we don’t agree?

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Anonymous wrote:You're an abject failure if you've made it to adulthood and believe that men don't need emotional support or close bonds.

I believe many men would say I can get that from somebody other than a wife or a significant other.

But why? I can have a close bond with a pet dog but that's not the same as having one with a spouse, either. Having a close bond with a spouse is way, way better than having a close bond with anyone else. If you haven't experienced that yet then keep trying.

Don't make me choose between my dog and my spouse.

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Anonymous wrote:They want one thing, which is to be satisfied by someone else - through sex, food, attention/caring. Women do not have the same drive for any of that.

yes, we do.

I have a secret for the men who think women aren't into sex: It's not that we're not into sex. It's that we're not into sex with YOU.

you realize that you're mostly a bunch of women talking about what men want, and you're arguing with each other

So why don’t you post?

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I’m not the OP but this really does come down to sex. It sounds like sex is the most important thing for a man. Good to know for advice to next generation of women. It sounds like you can give on other things if sex is good.

Riiight, because sex being important has been such a secret up till now.

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Anonymous wrote:You're an abject failure if you've made it to adulthood and believe that men don't need emotional support or close bonds.

I believe many men would say I can get that from somebody other than a wife or a significant other.

But why? I can have a close bond with a pet dog but that's not the same as having one with a spouse, either. Having a close bond with a spouse is way, way better than having a close bond with anyone else. If you haven't experienced that yet then keep trying.

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Anonymous wrote:Sex is like money. When you have lots of it, its 10% of the relationship. When you have none, its 90%.

Those diminishing the power of sex, the glue, are those in the 10% category. I am rich, and I don't pretend to know what it's like to be poor.

So sex is the most important thing.

It’s a required thing for a happy relationship.

I’m not the OP but this really does come down to sex. It sounds like sex is the most important thing for a man. Good to know for advice to next generation of women. It sounds like you can give on other things if sex is good.

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Anonymous wrote:Sex is like money. When you have lots of it, its 10% of the relationship. When you have none, its 90%.

Those diminishing the power of sex, the glue, are those in the 10% category. I am rich, and I don't pretend to know what it's like to be poor.

So sex is the most important thing.

It’s a required thing for a happy relationship.

Anonymous wrote:I want an exclusive, serious relationship with a woman. And I want lots of sex in that relationship.

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Anonymous wrote:As a male married 22 years I’m happy to have sex 2-3 times a week and that takes up about 1 or 2 hours in a week. There are 168 hours in a week, less 50 hours for sleeping for a net of 118 hours less 60 hours for working/commuting for a net, net of 58 hours. So I’ve got 58 hours of available family time and sex only takes up 1-2 hours. There is a ton I want in the other 56 hours - if I’m not happy and enjoying myself with my wife and children for many of those hours sex for 1-2 hours is not going to make up for it. Yes, those 2 hours are great but if the other 54 hours suck my life will not be good. Fortunately I have a wonderful wife and great but at times challenging children so those other hours make for a very happy life. And, those happy other hours make the 1-2 hours of sex even better.

So no, men do not only want one thing.

I think you’re a unicorn on this site.

I typically hear the opposite on this forum: sex makes those other 50 something hours better. Conclusion is that sex is the most important for men. I also hear that most men cheat, regardless of whether he has sex at home. Again, conclusion is that sex is the most important thing to a man.

Most of what you hear on this site about men comes from women. If you read on reddit - that has a mostly male audience, you get a very different perspective. Not that sex isn't important but that life and success and happiness and meaning is about a lot more than sex.

The above male poster sounds like my husband and we’ve been married 34 years. I know sex is very important to him but it is not the only thing that matters. There is a lot more to him than just a very nice penis.

Stop giving him sex and see if he's OK with it because "it's not the only thing that matters".

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Anonymous wrote:Sex is like money. When you have lots of it, its 10% of the relationship. When you have none, its 90%.

Those diminishing the power of sex, the glue, are those in the 10% category. I am rich, and I don't pretend to know what it's like to be poor.

So sex is the most important thing.

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Anonymous wrote:You're an abject failure if you've made it to adulthood and believe that men don't need emotional support or close bonds.

I believe many men would say I can get that from somebody other than a wife or a significant other.

Anonymous wrote:Sex is like money. When you have lots of it, its 10% of the relationship. When you have none, its 90%.

Those diminishing the power of sex, the glue, are those in the 10% category. I am rich, and I don't pretend to know what it's like to be poor.

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Anonymous wrote:As a male married 22 years I’m happy to have sex 2-3 times a week and that takes up about 1 or 2 hours in a week. There are 168 hours in a week, less 50 hours for sleeping for a net of 118 hours less 60 hours for working/commuting for a net, net of 58 hours. So I’ve got 58 hours of available family time and sex only takes up 1-2 hours. There is a ton I want in the other 56 hours - if I’m not happy and enjoying myself with my wife and children for many of those hours sex for 1-2 hours is not going to make up for it. Yes, those 2 hours are great but if the other 54 hours suck my life will not be good. Fortunately I have a wonderful wife and great but at times challenging children so those other hours make for a very happy life. And, those happy other hours make the 1-2 hours of sex even better.

So no, men do not only want one thing.

LOL! You’re going to get shredded for this by most of the women on this thread because it’s logical and not emotional.

LOL! It's lack logic. or intelligence

Mostly because he has 58... FIFTY EIGHT ... hours of FREE TIME.

OTOH .... His wife has 30 minutes of free time.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a woman but I know my husband would say it's false. He and his brothers also want somebody to talk to, an equal partner in a relationship, somebody they can admire as far as work and ambition (even if that's just being a stay at home mom), somebody who is a good enough mom to their kids, and of course they want to be good people themselves and provide their wives with what their wives need need. And of course they want financial success, fun hobbies, kids, friends, all that. Yes, lots of sex is something they want but it's just one of many things.

I think men who think that men only want one thing and that's sex are emotionally stunted and need therapy.

If he's not getting sex, all those other good things are going to pale into insignificance, and yes, he will start looking for ways to get sex elsewhere.

Women who think sex is not necessary to a successful marriage are stunted and need therapy.

That's fine. He'll be paying me for many years after the divorce!