Anonymous
12/10/2019 12:50
Subject: Re:Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:I'm probably taking this conversation off its course, but for anyone who does intermittent fasting: do you drink coffee during your fast time and if so, do you add milk/ cream to it? I have been doing a combo of IF and weight watchers and it has been working. I've found IF to be pretty easy, EXCEPT that I need a splash of milk (not cream) in my morning coffee. And I need my coffee. Am I undoing the effectiveness of IF? I'm losing weight (slowly), but I'm curious to know if its just the WW plan and I've rendered my IF efforts ineffective from my tablespoon of 2% during fasting hours.
The common consensus is that anything under 50 calories is still considered fasting. So it all depends on how much milk you add. One tablespoon is nothing.
Anonymous
12/10/2019 12:35
Subject: Re:Just came off a 48 hour fast
I'm probably taking this conversation off its course, but for anyone who does intermittent fasting: do you drink coffee during your fast time and if so, do you add milk/ cream to it? I have been doing a combo of IF and weight watchers and it has been working. I've found IF to be pretty easy, EXCEPT that I need a splash of milk (not cream) in my morning coffee. And I need my coffee. Am I undoing the effectiveness of IF? I'm losing weight (slowly), but I'm curious to know if its just the WW plan and I've rendered my IF efforts ineffective from my tablespoon of 2% during fasting hours.
Anonymous
12/10/2019 12:34
Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Back in the day in the diet world you always heard about messing up your metabolism if you fasted and about losing weight too quickly. Is that not a concern any longer with IF?
There really is no evidence that the speed at which you lose weight, or how you do it, has anything to do with messing your metabolism. What DOES change your metabolism is getting fat, and staying fat. Gaining and losing the same 10 pounds on 6 monthly cycle is probably fine, but gaining 30 lbs and keeping it on for 10 years and then trying to lose it is going to be hard, because your metabolism had adjusted to the weight. As you try to lose weight your metabolism slows to hold on to the fat. The more you lose, the more your body slows. This is what happens to all people who lose a significant amount of weight after being heavy for a time. But it has nothing to do with fasting or losing too quickly. In fact, there is evidence that you should lose quickly because people lose motivation to lose slowly, and give up. There are long term studies of people who have maintained weight loss (I am in one of those studies) and they find that losing weight isn't really the issue - any diet that works for you is fine - the issue is maintaining. That is even harder.
Yes to all of that. You clearly know what you are saying.
What struck me is that even when people lose weight their fat cells remain, they just shrink. So that's may be why it is so hard for people not to gain weight - because their fat cells are just waiting to expand again. That's very motivating, I keep reminding myself about those fat cells )))
Anonymous
12/10/2019 12:24
Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Back in the day in the diet world you always heard about messing up your metabolism if you fasted and about losing weight too quickly. Is that not a concern any longer with IF?
There really is no evidence that the speed at which you lose weight, or how you do it, has anything to do with messing your metabolism. What DOES change your metabolism is getting fat, and staying fat. Gaining and losing the same 10 pounds on 6 monthly cycle is probably fine, but gaining 30 lbs and keeping it on for 10 years and then trying to lose it is going to be hard, because your metabolism had adjusted to the weight. As you try to lose weight your metabolism slows to hold on to the fat. The more you lose, the more your body slows. This is what happens to all people who lose a significant amount of weight after being heavy for a time. But it has nothing to do with fasting or losing too quickly. In fact, there is evidence that you should lose quickly because people lose motivation to lose slowly, and give up. There are long term studies of people who have maintained weight loss (I am in one of those studies) and they find that losing weight isn't really the issue - any diet that works for you is fine - the issue is maintaining. That is even harder.
eh, there's more to it than that. Women tend to gain weight around certain ages because their hormones change and their body tries to fatten up in order to keep estrogen levels elevated which, in turn, keeps their periods going.
Some body types have a higher propensity towards this type of weight gain. Fasting can help limit the amount you gain.
Anonymous
12/10/2019 12:16
Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:Back in the day in the diet world you always heard about messing up your metabolism if you fasted and about losing weight too quickly. Is that not a concern any longer with IF?
There really is no evidence that the speed at which you lose weight, or how you do it, has anything to do with messing your metabolism. What DOES change your metabolism is getting fat, and staying fat. Gaining and losing the same 10 pounds on 6 monthly cycle is probably fine, but gaining 30 lbs and keeping it on for 10 years and then trying to lose it is going to be hard, because your metabolism had adjusted to the weight. As you try to lose weight your metabolism slows to hold on to the fat. The more you lose, the more your body slows. This is what happens to all people who lose a significant amount of weight after being heavy for a time. But it has nothing to do with fasting or losing too quickly. In fact, there is evidence that you should lose quickly because people lose motivation to lose slowly, and give up. There are long term studies of people who have maintained weight loss (I am in one of those studies) and they find that losing weight isn't really the issue - any diet that works for you is fine - the issue is maintaining. That is even harder.
Anonymous
12/10/2019 09:09
Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Our bodies are designed to put on fat when we feast. When food gets scarce (famine, winter) our bodies burn our fat stores. It's a totally normal and natural process.
The problem these days is that there is never a scarcity of food. We are always in feasting mode and that is why people gain weight. Fasting brings your body into a more natural rhythm, it regulates hunger and blood sugar.
What destroys your metabolism is when you fast way too much and never feast. You wind up burning muscle for fuel which tanks your metabolism over time.
Fasting is not the same thing as starving yourself/never eating.
The problem these days is that there is never a scarcity of food. We are always in feasting mode and that is why people gain weight. Fasting brings your body into a more natural rhythm, it regulates hunger and blood sugar.
What destroys your metabolism is when you fast way too much and never feast. You wind up burning muscle for fuel which tanks your metabolism over time.
Fasting is not the same thing as starving yourself/never eating.
Anonymous
12/10/2019 08:10
Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Back in the day in the diet world you always heard about messing up your metabolism if you fasted and about losing weight too quickly. Is that not a concern any longer with IF?
Anonymous
12/09/2019 17:43
Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is legit research that fasting is good for authopagy, why are some pps here so resistant to even looking it up?
Fasting is currently a tech sector fad and completely out of control. People are fasting for days because tech executives post on Instagram and claim they have super powers from starving themselves.
Well, hopefully people aren't that stupid to believe that? Our brains needs sugar to function. Whether that sugar is from meat, carbs, fruit is irrelevant. Starved brain is not going to be productive!
Your brain won’t starve. The entire purpose of fat - which we all have, even thin people - is to store energy so you can function while you aren’t eating. We would have been a pretty short-lived species if we fainted and lost our ability to think when we didn’t eat for a day. Fat is meant to be used - it is short term storage. Your brain doesn’t care if it’s energy comes from food or fat. It’s all just glucose.
Anonymous
12/09/2019 16:31
Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is legit research that fasting is good for authopagy, why are some pps here so resistant to even looking it up?
Fasting is currently a tech sector fad and completely out of control. People are fasting for days because tech executives post on Instagram and claim they have super powers from starving themselves.
Well, hopefully people aren't that stupid to believe that? Our brains needs sugar to function. Whether that sugar is from meat, carbs, fruit is irrelevant. Starved brain is not going to be productive!
Why don't you read the research? You are calling other people stupid while you clearly are uneducated on this issue yourself.
Anonymous
12/09/2019 14:47
Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is legit research that fasting is good for authopagy, why are some pps here so resistant to even looking it up?
Fasting is currently a tech sector fad and completely out of control. People are fasting for days because tech executives post on Instagram and claim they have super powers from starving themselves.
Well, hopefully people aren't that stupid to believe that? Our brains needs sugar to function. Whether that sugar is from meat, carbs, fruit is irrelevant. Starved brain is not going to be productive!
Anonymous
12/09/2019 11:46
Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:There is legit research that fasting is good for authopagy, why are some pps here so resistant to even looking it up?
Fasting is currently a tech sector fad and completely out of control. People are fasting for days because tech executives post on Instagram and claim they have super powers from starving themselves.
Anonymous
12/09/2019 09:56
Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I do a 36 hour fast once a week and sometimes twice a week.
Fasting really helps to maintain my weight and it's helpful for evening out some over indulgences.
So you sometimes go 3 out of 7 days without eating?
Occasionally, yes. When I feel my weight creep up after a week of excesses I will toss in an extra fast just to even it all out.
Fasting has many benefits and as long as you are healthy and not skin and bones it is perfectly safe to do.
LMAO
The sh*t people post here.
If you’re not skin and bones is your stupid starvation diet even working?
Bones weigh so much though. I find if I go six months without eating I can lose some extra pounds there, too.
Anonymous
12/09/2019 09:38
Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
There is legit research that fasting is good for authopagy, why are some pps here so resistant to even looking it up?
Anonymous
12/09/2019 09:12
Subject: Re:Just came off a 48 hour fast
NPR has an article about fasting today - not the long fasts, but limited (10-hour) eating window. I use intermittent fasting to control my weight and from the evidence I have seen I think it has health benefits. My normal is the 10 hour eating window - I am not hungry for breakfast, so it takes no will power for me - and if I gain a few pounds I lose them by doing twice weekly 500 calorie fasts. But people are different. My DH has zero interest in fasting, adheres to the "I need to eat small snack meals all day to stave off hunger" world view. Its okay for different people to do different things without calling each other names!
[https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/12/08/785142534/eat-for-10-hours-fast-for-14-this-daily-habit-prompts-weight-loss-study-findsl]
[https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/12/08/785142534/eat-for-10-hours-fast-for-14-this-daily-habit-prompts-weight-loss-study-findsl]
Anonymous
12/09/2019 06:58
Subject: Just came off a 48 hour fast
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I do a 36 hour fast once a week and sometimes twice a week.
Fasting really helps to maintain my weight and it's helpful for evening out some over indulgences.
So you sometimes go 3 out of 7 days without eating?
Occasionally, yes. When I feel my weight creep up after a week of excesses I will toss in an extra fast just to even it all out.
Fasting has many benefits and as long as you are healthy and not skin and bones it is perfectly safe to do.
LMAO
The sh*t people post here.
If you’re not skin and bones is your stupid starvation diet even working?