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Anonymous wrote:The authorities need to clear this out, pronto.

+2, it's disgusting what those people are doing to the environment. Look at all the trash. Where are they going to the bathroom? That camp is basically a hazmat site. It'll cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to clean it up and mitigate all the environmental damage.

I’d bet your environmental damage footprint is way bigger than theirs.

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Anonymous wrote:The authorities need to clear this out, pronto.

+2, it's disgusting what those people are doing to the environment. Look at all the trash. Where are they going to the bathroom? That camp is basically a hazmat site. It'll cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to clean it up and mitigate all the environmental damage.

I’d bet your environmental damage footprint is way bigger than theirs.

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Anonymous wrote:The authorities need to clear this out, pronto.

+2, it's disgusting what those people are doing to the environment. Look at all the trash. Where are they going to the bathroom? That camp is basically a hazmat site. It'll cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to clean it up and mitigate all the environmental damage.

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Anonymous wrote:The encampments are a public health disaster waiting to happen.

How so?

Seriously?

Go visit a country like India with people living and defecating in the streets. Open, raw sewage. Do you not see how that leads to health problems? TB is just one issue.

Cities in India are actually trying to clean up these settlements and you want them to flourish here in the US?

No one wants them to flourish here. Obviously. The point is that these are human beings who will continue to need to defecate wherever you send them. Clearing out an encampment like this is not going to stop them from shitting on a daily basis. Come up with a civilized alternative for them.

Is caring for someone who demonstrably can't care for themselves unconstitutional? Is foster care unconstitutional?

Then those people need to be removed from the societal context and locked up. Forcibly and indefinitely.
Federal work camps

I’m the person who said it was a public health disaster waiting to happen. Government-run “work camps“ are also notorious for epidemics. This is what my undergrad degree focused on.

The government needs to build CCC-like camps for chronically homeless adults. They should be compulsory. The campers can rebuild national park infrastructure and trails or retrofit affordable homes with solar panel. Government should provide medical care, including mental health care as necessary, plus three squares a day and training. Once government meets those obligations, no one should have the right to beg, sleep and defecate on the street.

Chronically homeless adults have severe mental health or substance abuse problems. They are not able to do the type of work you mention. They will still defecate in the wrong places because they are very ill. Do you really want to give pickaxes to the same people you are afraid to ride the Metro with?

Then those people need to be removed from the societal context and locked up. Forcibly and indefinitely.

well that's unconstitutional. do you have any actual ideas?

Is caring for someone who demonstrably can't care for themselves unconstitutional? Is foster care unconstitutional?

Yes, it actually is. You can't hold someone against their will even if they are mentally ill. You would need to prove they are a danger to self or others and the burden is fairly high.

Minors are incompetent in the eyes of the law simply due to their age, different issue.

Isnt being unable to care for yourself being a danger to yourself? If you are asking for free food and land, wrapped in multiple blankets in summer, tick or flea ridden and filth encrusted and delusional, what's the difference between being in an institution where you can get actual care?

There is a very high bar for danger to self and it typically involves immediate threats to harm yourself. Neglect usually doesn't count.

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Anonymous wrote:The encampments are a public health disaster waiting to happen.

How so?

Seriously?

Go visit a country like India with people living and defecating in the streets. Open, raw sewage. Do you not see how that leads to health problems? TB is just one issue.

Cities in India are actually trying to clean up these settlements and you want them to flourish here in the US?

No one wants them to flourish here. Obviously. The point is that these are human beings who will continue to need to defecate wherever you send them. Clearing out an encampment like this is not going to stop them from shitting on a daily basis. Come up with a civilized alternative for them.

Is caring for someone who demonstrably can't care for themselves unconstitutional? Is foster care unconstitutional?

Then those people need to be removed from the societal context and locked up. Forcibly and indefinitely.
Federal work camps

I’m the person who said it was a public health disaster waiting to happen. Government-run “work camps“ are also notorious for epidemics. This is what my undergrad degree focused on.

The government needs to build CCC-like camps for chronically homeless adults. They should be compulsory. The campers can rebuild national park infrastructure and trails or retrofit affordable homes with solar panel. Government should provide medical care, including mental health care as necessary, plus three squares a day and training. Once government meets those obligations, no one should have the right to beg, sleep and defecate on the street.

Chronically homeless adults have severe mental health or substance abuse problems. They are not able to do the type of work you mention. They will still defecate in the wrong places because they are very ill. Do you really want to give pickaxes to the same people you are afraid to ride the Metro with?

Then those people need to be removed from the societal context and locked up. Forcibly and indefinitely.

well that's unconstitutional. do you have any actual ideas?

Is caring for someone who demonstrably can't care for themselves unconstitutional? Is foster care unconstitutional?

Yes, it actually is. You can't hold someone against their will even if they are mentally ill. You would need to prove they are a danger to self or others and the burden is fairly high.

Minors are incompetent in the eyes of the law simply due to their age, different issue.

Isnt being unable to care for yourself being a danger to yourself? If you are asking for free food and land, wrapped in multiple blankets in summer, tick or flea ridden and filth encrusted and delusional, what's the difference between being in an institution where you can get actual care?

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Anonymous wrote:The encampments are a public health disaster waiting to happen.

How so?

Seriously?

Go visit a country like India with people living and defecating in the streets. Open, raw sewage. Do you not see how that leads to health problems? TB is just one issue.

Cities in India are actually trying to clean up these settlements and you want them to flourish here in the US?

No one wants them to flourish here. Obviously. The point is that these are human beings who will continue to need to defecate wherever you send them. Clearing out an encampment like this is not going to stop them from shitting on a daily basis. Come up with a civilized alternative for them.

Is caring for someone who demonstrably can't care for themselves unconstitutional? Is foster care unconstitutional?

Then those people need to be removed from the societal context and locked up. Forcibly and indefinitely.
Federal work camps

I’m the person who said it was a public health disaster waiting to happen. Government-run “work camps“ are also notorious for epidemics. This is what my undergrad degree focused on.

The government needs to build CCC-like camps for chronically homeless adults. They should be compulsory. The campers can rebuild national park infrastructure and trails or retrofit affordable homes with solar panel. Government should provide medical care, including mental health care as necessary, plus three squares a day and training. Once government meets those obligations, no one should have the right to beg, sleep and defecate on the street.

Chronically homeless adults have severe mental health or substance abuse problems. They are not able to do the type of work you mention. They will still defecate in the wrong places because they are very ill. Do you really want to give pickaxes to the same people you are afraid to ride the Metro with?

Then those people need to be removed from the societal context and locked up. Forcibly and indefinitely.

well that's unconstitutional. do you have any actual ideas?

Is caring for someone who demonstrably can't care for themselves unconstitutional? Is foster care unconstitutional?

Yes, it actually is. You can't hold someone against their will even if they are mentally ill. You would need to prove they are a danger to self or others and the burden is fairly high.

Minors are incompetent in the eyes of the law simply due to their age, different issue.

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Anonymous wrote:The encampments are a public health disaster waiting to happen.

How so?

Seriously?

Go visit a country like India with people living and defecating in the streets. Open, raw sewage. Do you not see how that leads to health problems? TB is just one issue.

Cities in India are actually trying to clean up these settlements and you want them to flourish here in the US?

No one wants them to flourish here. Obviously. The point is that these are human beings who will continue to need to defecate wherever you send them. Clearing out an encampment like this is not going to stop them from shitting on a daily basis. Come up with a civilized alternative for them.

Is caring for someone who demonstrably can't care for themselves unconstitutional? Is foster care unconstitutional?

Then those people need to be removed from the societal context and locked up. Forcibly and indefinitely.
Federal work camps

I’m the person who said it was a public health disaster waiting to happen. Government-run “work camps“ are also notorious for epidemics. This is what my undergrad degree focused on.

The government needs to build CCC-like camps for chronically homeless adults. They should be compulsory. The campers can rebuild national park infrastructure and trails or retrofit affordable homes with solar panel. Government should provide medical care, including mental health care as necessary, plus three squares a day and training. Once government meets those obligations, no one should have the right to beg, sleep and defecate on the street.

Chronically homeless adults have severe mental health or substance abuse problems. They are not able to do the type of work you mention. They will still defecate in the wrong places because they are very ill. Do you really want to give pickaxes to the same people you are afraid to ride the Metro with?

Then those people need to be removed from the societal context and locked up. Forcibly and indefinitely.

well that's unconstitutional. do you have any actual ideas?

Is caring for someone who demonstrably can't care for themselves unconstitutional? Is foster care unconstitutional?

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Anonymous wrote:Gotta love democratics and their governing practices.

What have the Republicans done to help the mentally ill and homeless?

Can't get much done when either party wants to do ANYTHING but govern, term limits is the only way.

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Anonymous wrote:Gotta love democratics and their governing practices.

Yes, I love democrats -- normal americans with normal standards of decency, people who care about their fellow human beings, want to help those in need and want a government that reflects their normalcy and decency by taking care of those in need rather than being heartless and indifferent to them. yes, I do love democrats.

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Anonymous wrote:The authorities need to clear this out, pronto.

Leave these people alone for God's sake. Be a decent human being. No one is "choosing" to live on the streets because they're lazy. They are ill, incapable of helping themselves, incapable of following through with all the paper work or appointments necessary to get the very limited resources that are offered, that take forever to come through anyway, etc etc etc. Where are they supposed to go? I heard on the news a year ago about a man who was discovered living in a hollowed out cave-like area in -- Arlington? They arrested him. Good God, the man is living in an underground cave -- that's illegal?

Grow a heart. Be a decent human being who will make it into heaven one day.

Two solutions-
Forced hospitalization for the mentally ill chronic homeless
And opening day shelters for those down on their luck.
Camps should be razed and libraries should not be the alternative.

This.

unfortunately, there's the constitution

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Anonymous wrote:The encampments are a public health disaster waiting to happen.

How so?

Seriously?

Go visit a country like India with people living and defecating in the streets. Open, raw sewage. Do you not see how that leads to health problems? TB is just one issue.

Cities in India are actually trying to clean up these settlements and you want them to flourish here in the US?

No one wants them to flourish here. Obviously. The point is that these are human beings who will continue to need to defecate wherever you send them. Clearing out an encampment like this is not going to stop them from shitting on a daily basis. Come up with a civilized alternative for them.

Is caring for someone who demonstrably can't care for themselves unconstitutional? Is foster care unconstitutional?

Then those people need to be removed from the societal context and locked up. Forcibly and indefinitely.
Federal work camps

I’m the person who said it was a public health disaster waiting to happen. Government-run “work camps“ are also notorious for epidemics. This is what my undergrad degree focused on.

The government needs to build CCC-like camps for chronically homeless adults. They should be compulsory. The campers can rebuild national park infrastructure and trails or retrofit affordable homes with solar panel. Government should provide medical care, including mental health care as necessary, plus three squares a day and training. Once government meets those obligations, no one should have the right to beg, sleep and defecate on the street.

Chronically homeless adults have severe mental health or substance abuse problems. They are not able to do the type of work you mention. They will still defecate in the wrong places because they are very ill. Do you really want to give pickaxes to the same people you are afraid to ride the Metro with?

Then those people need to be removed from the societal context and locked up. Forcibly and indefinitely.

well that's unconstitutional. do you have any actual ideas?

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Anonymous wrote:The encampments are a public health disaster waiting to happen.

How so?

Seriously?

Go visit a country like India with people living and defecating in the streets. Open, raw sewage. Do you not see how that leads to health problems? TB is just one issue.

Cities in India are actually trying to clean up these settlements and you want them to flourish here in the US?

No one wants them to flourish here. Obviously. The point is that these are human beings who will continue to need to defecate wherever you send them. Clearing out an encampment like this is not going to stop them from shitting on a daily basis. Come up with a civilized alternative for them.

Is caring for someone who demonstrably can't care for themselves unconstitutional? Is foster care unconstitutional?

Then those people need to be removed from the societal context and locked up. Forcibly and indefinitely.
Federal work camps

I’m the person who said it was a public health disaster waiting to happen. Government-run “work camps“ are also notorious for epidemics. This is what my undergrad degree focused on.

The government needs to build CCC-like camps for chronically homeless adults. They should be compulsory. The campers can rebuild national park infrastructure and trails or retrofit affordable homes with solar panel. Government should provide medical care, including mental health care as necessary, plus three squares a day and training. Once government meets those obligations, no one should have the right to beg, sleep and defecate on the street.

Chronically homeless adults have severe mental health or substance abuse problems. They are not able to do the type of work you mention. They will still defecate in the wrong places because they are very ill. Do you really want to give pickaxes to the same people you are afraid to ride the Metro with?

Then those people need to be removed from the societal context and locked up. Forcibly and indefinitely.

well that's unconstitutional. do you have any actual ideas?

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Anonymous wrote:The encampments are a public health disaster waiting to happen.

How so?

Seriously?

Go visit a country like India with people living and defecating in the streets. Open, raw sewage. Do you not see how that leads to health problems? TB is just one issue.

Cities in India are actually trying to clean up these settlements and you want them to flourish here in the US?

No one wants them to flourish here. Obviously. The point is that these are human beings who will continue to need to defecate wherever you send them. Clearing out an encampment like this is not going to stop them from shitting on a daily basis. Come up with a civilized alternative for them.

Then those people need to be removed from the societal context and locked up. Forcibly and indefinitely.
Federal work camps

I’m the person who said it was a public health disaster waiting to happen. Government-run “work camps“ are also notorious for epidemics. This is what my undergrad degree focused on.

The government needs to build CCC-like camps for chronically homeless adults. They should be compulsory. The campers can rebuild national park infrastructure and trails or retrofit affordable homes with solar panel. Government should provide medical care, including mental health care as necessary, plus three squares a day and training. Once government meets those obligations, no one should have the right to beg, sleep and defecate on the street.

Chronically homeless adults have severe mental health or substance abuse problems. They are not able to do the type of work you mention. They will still defecate in the wrong places because they are very ill. Do you really want to give pickaxes to the same people you are afraid to ride the Metro with?

Then those people need to be removed from the societal context and locked up. Forcibly and indefinitely.

well that's unconstitutional. do you have any actual ideas?

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Anonymous wrote:The encampments are a public health disaster waiting to happen.

How so?

Seriously?

Go visit a country like India with people living and defecating in the streets. Open, raw sewage. Do you not see how that leads to health problems? TB is just one issue.

Cities in India are actually trying to clean up these settlements and you want them to flourish here in the US?

No one wants them to flourish here. Obviously. The point is that these are human beings who will continue to need to defecate wherever you send them. Clearing out an encampment like this is not going to stop them from shitting on a daily basis. Come up with a civilized alternative for them.

Then those people need to be removed from the societal context and locked up. Forcibly and indefinitely.
Federal work camps

I’m the person who said it was a public health disaster waiting to happen. Government-run “work camps“ are also notorious for epidemics. This is what my undergrad degree focused on.

The government needs to build CCC-like camps for chronically homeless adults. They should be compulsory. The campers can rebuild national park infrastructure and trails or retrofit affordable homes with solar panel. Government should provide medical care, including mental health care as necessary, plus three squares a day and training. Once government meets those obligations, no one should have the right to beg, sleep and defecate on the street.

Chronically homeless adults have severe mental health or substance abuse problems. They are not able to do the type of work you mention. They will still defecate in the wrong places because they are very ill. Do you really want to give pickaxes to the same people you are afraid to ride the Metro with?

Then those people need to be removed from the societal context and locked up. Forcibly and indefinitely.