Perpendicular is a good question as well. It's clear in my mind you should stop since kids are coming from all directions, but it is difficult to see the lights from 90 degrees to the bus.

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(c) This section does not apply to the driver of a vehicle on a divided highway, if the school vehicle is on a different roadway.[/i]

What the hell does that even mean?

If it's a four or six lane highway, and there is a median / divider that's grass (as is very common), is that a different roadway or not?

I've also seen MCPS do really stupid things like put a bus stop on a six-lane where there is little concrete sidewalk and no cross-walk. Any kid on the other side of the road would have to cross all six lanes at a light at one of the corners, and we all know a late kid will never run directly towards their bus.

And no, i've never been cited, but these cameras do reek of corruption. When a private company is taking in revenue on behalf of a government agency, or the method of collection has insufficient government agency oversight over those funds, it's just a matter of time before the hand is in the cookie jar.

Vote Apple Ballot folks! Or at least a non-incumbent pls.

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Anonymous wrote:Huh?

You don’t know that you’re not supposed to pass a school bus? Stop passing school busses

Cool. So all traffic on Montgomery County roads must come to a complete halt every time a school bus is on the road. Never pass a bus? Never?
School buses own the road and all traffic must stop to clear the roads for them?

If there's a median in the road, only those on the same side of the road as the bus must stop.

I get confused at inersections. Neighbors seemed unhappy with me when I drove very slowly on a crossroad in front of the bus near where the bus was stopped on a road perpendicular to the road I was on. I don't think I was legally required to stop, and I was being careful in case of kids, but some neighbors seemed to shake their fists at me.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Huh?

You don’t know that you’re not supposed to pass a school bus? Stop passing school busses

Cool. So all traffic on Montgomery County roads must come to a complete halt every time a school bus is on the road. Never pass a bus? Never?
School buses own the road and all traffic must stop to clear the roads for them?

If they're lights are on an the stop flag out, stop. What's so hard about that?

You this stupid? So the bus can throw out the stop sign without warning and you are next to the bus and get a ticket. No warning. No compliance with Maryland law on warning from bus. You automatically get a ticket. The bus camera scammers love that! Makes them very rich.

The buses start with yellow lights. There are not situations of "no warning"

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Huh?

You don’t know that you’re not supposed to pass a school bus? Stop passing school busses

Cool. So all traffic on Montgomery County roads must come to a complete halt every time a school bus is on the road. Never pass a bus? Never?
School buses own the road and all traffic must stop to clear the roads for them?

If they're lights are on an the stop flag out, stop. What's so hard about that?

You this stupid? So the bus can throw out the stop sign without warning and you are next to the bus and get a ticket. No warning. No compliance with Maryland law on warning from bus. You automatically get a ticket. The bus camera scammers love that! Makes them very rich.

The warning is the giant yellow bus flashing big yellow lights all over it. That happens before the big red lights start flashing and the stop signs come out. Please don’t drive if you are this stupid.

As of June 2019, Austin ISD had made a total of more than $3.9 million in revenue, which goes into the general fund. For every $300 violation, the district keeps 40% and the vendor gets 60%.


Seems the vendor got the bulk of the take in their contracts back then, perhaps they renegotiated down to 50 percent in order to increase their client base, deciding they could just make it up in volume.

The citation letter will reference which state and local code ordinances were violated. Ordinance vary among states and municipalities. You will want to review the language for the code cited in your citation. If the code states that you must stop for a flashing stop arm when a school bus is taking on or offloading students but there were no students on the bus and none were getting on when you passed the bus, you would not be violating the code.

Key point in the execution of the operation, the company was setting up operations on buses that were *not* in actual operation. By doing this, they severely undermine efforts for actual school bus safety; akin to crooks flashing fake police badges in robberies to encourage compliance by their victims. It results in the seeds of doubt being placed in the public whether it's a scam or not, and officials need to seriously consider the harm they're doing by going for the easy money in association with this Virginia company.

The scam now being run in NY as well, by the same Virginia company, which has contracted out to get 50% of the take with the blessing of the government, who benefits from the revenue. The company in fact runs buses without any children on them, and set up the automatic picture capture for the fishing expedition.

Fact: they set up in the middle of a 3 lane highway, with concrete barriers between the highway and the 2 lane service road, so any children they purportedly pick up or drop off need to run across the service road, hop over a 3 foot concrete barrier to get to the bus. It was so incredulous, I was convinced it was a prank after coming to a stop and seeing no one on the bus or anywhere near it, and proceeded on, with a line of commuting motorists behind.
There's absolutely no way in hell this is a legitimate operation, it's a pure scam by this Virginia company, sanctioned by government only because some official was greedy, enticed by the money.
They thought up a new angle, and they're holding mock hearings on Zoom, so they don't need office space or personnel to run the collections. Infuriatingly laughable what they're coming up with to make money nowadays.

Anonymous wrote:A child at the bus stop I used as a child was killed last year. I wish they could attach jail time to the fine

The fine is being charged by a company in a house in Louisiana. What jail would they use? Their basement?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Huh?

You don’t know that you’re not supposed to pass a school bus? Stop passing school busses

Cool. So all traffic on Montgomery County roads must come to a complete halt every time a school bus is on the road. Never pass a bus? Never?
School buses own the road and all traffic must stop to clear the roads for them?

If they're lights are on an the stop flag out, stop. What's so hard about that?

You this stupid? So the bus can throw out the stop sign without warning and you are next to the bus and get a ticket. No warning. No compliance with Maryland law on warning from bus. You automatically get a ticket. The bus camera scammers love that! Makes them very rich.

A child at the bus stop I used as a child was killed last year. I wish they could attach jail time to the fine

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Huh?

You don’t know that you’re not supposed to pass a school bus? Stop passing school busses

Cool. So all traffic on Montgomery County roads must come to a complete halt every time a school bus is on the road. Never pass a bus? Never?
School buses own the road and all traffic must stop to clear the roads for them?

If they're lights are on an the stop flag out, stop. What's so hard about that?

Anonymous wrote:Reanimating a dead thread to endorse passing stopped school buses?

Are you that stupid? Anti-vaxxer too?

Anonymous wrote:Huh?

You don’t know that you’re not supposed to pass a school bus? Stop passing school busses

Cool. So all traffic on Montgomery County roads must come to a complete halt every time a school bus is on the road. Never pass a bus? Never?
School buses own the road and all traffic must stop to clear the roads for them?

Huh?

You don’t know that you’re not supposed to pass a school bus? Stop passing school busses