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Anonymous wrote:My child applied for AAP last year. Her scores, for both math and reading, were 99 percentile. Twice; fall and spring. She didn’t get in. Those scores never got mentioned in AAP application.

FWIW:
In my third grade class, 7 students scored at the 90th percentile or higher. 13 scored at the 80th percentile+ on the reading screener. On the math screener 7 are at 94th+ and 10 scored at the 80th+ percentile.

Gen Ed or AAP? If gen Ed, which pyramid?

Yeah, this isn't normal. From what I've heard (married to a K-6 teacher), 70 percent of the students are under grade level on the i-ready for some component because of COVID and the lack of effectiveness of distance learning. She teaches second in a Madison feeder, fwiw, so it's not as if this is a struggling school with high FARMS. She said this data was consistent across her region (60-80 percent showing below grade level) -- they had meetings on this fwiw to plan remediation this quarter in her school.

I agree. The numbers listed are way too high for gen ed, but they seem embarrassingly low for AAP kids who are supposed to be one grade level ahead. I'm confused about what type of FCPS school could have produced these numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:My child applied for AAP last year. Her scores, for both math and reading, were 99 percentile. Twice; fall and spring. She didn’t get in. Those scores never got mentioned in AAP application.

FWIW:
In my third grade class, 7 students scored at the 90th percentile or higher. 13 scored at the 80th percentile+ on the reading screener. On the math screener 7 are at 94th+ and 10 scored at the 80th+ percentile.

Gen Ed or AAP? If gen Ed, which pyramid?

Yeah, this isn't normal. From what I've heard (married to a K-6 teacher), 70 percent of the students are under grade level on the i-ready for some component because of COVID and the lack of effectiveness of distance learning. She teaches second in a Madison feeder, fwiw, so it's not as if this is a struggling school with high FARMS. She said this data was consistent across her region (60-80 percent showing below grade level) -- they had meetings on this fwiw to plan remediation this quarter in her school.

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Anonymous wrote:My child applied for AAP last year. Her scores, for both math and reading, were 99 percentile. Twice; fall and spring. She didn’t get in. Those scores never got mentioned in AAP application.

FWIW:
In my third grade class, 7 students scored at the 90th percentile or higher. 13 scored at the 80th percentile+ on the reading screener. On the math screener 7 are at 94th+ and 10 scored at the 80th+ percentile.

Gen Ed or AAP? If gen Ed, which pyramid?

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Anonymous wrote:My child applied for AAP last year. Her scores, for both math and reading, were 99 percentile. Twice; fall and spring. She didn’t get in. Those scores never got mentioned in AAP application.

FWIW:
In my third grade class, 7 students scored at the 90th percentile or higher. 13 scored at the 80th percentile+ on the reading screener. On the math screener 7 are at 94th+ and 10 scored at the 80th+ percentile.

Anonymous wrote:My child applied for AAP last year. Her scores, for both math and reading, were 99 percentile. Twice; fall and spring. She didn’t get in. Those scores never got mentioned in AAP application.

Anonymous wrote:Where is everyone getting this year's iReady scores? I don't see them in ParentVue.

Anonymous wrote:My child applied for AAP last year. Her scores, for both math and reading, were 99 percentile. Twice; fall and spring. She didn’t get in. Those scores never got mentioned in AAP application.

Anonymous wrote:Where is everyone getting this year's iReady scores? I don't see them in ParentVue.

Anonymous wrote:Our school doesn’t give parents the scores anymore because they think they are crap.

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Anonymous wrote:What's funny is my kid is in AAP in 4th. She scored in Kindergarten in phonics and phonemic awareness in 3rd grade. She had a 154 verbal COGAT. So, it's a weird test.

It did result in her landing in a fundations group with a reading specialist in 3rd that was useless. We pulled her from it (one good thing about virtual) and got get a tutor to work on a few weak areas and she's a fine reader. So, it's a weird screener and I wouldn't rely on it for AAP purposes fwiw.

Cogat verbal uses pictures. That level of mismatch could be a sign of dyslexia. Dyslexia can look different in gifted kids because they develop or are advanced enough in other skills to cover for their weakness in phonological or phonemic awareness. It could also Just have been that test or that day. Just wanted to mention because I wasn't aware of that until our child also had a significant phonics to reading level mismatch like that.

I am not certain what LDs look like for the gifted. I know that I am smart and I have LDs. I dreaded the WiSC as I got older because I always knew I was supposed to do better on it then I was, it was insanely frustrating because I could see the areas where I was confused or things slowed down in terms of processing. It sucked. Succckkkkeeeedddd. Seriously, I still dread the idea of the WiSC and I am a 50 year old adult. I took the WiSC a few different times, always years a part, because of my progress in school, moving across country, and then to set my IEP when I graduated from High School.

I don't know what dyslexia "looks like" for a gifted kid but I know that I have no memories of struggling with reading, I also know that I read a lot in context at this point. Reading to my son has been challenging because I do need to read every word and I can struggle reading Percy Jackson because I am moving words from one line to the next or moving letters around. It is kind of crazy. I know I was always seen as being advanced in my comprehension but my spelling, grammar, and processing for reading was horrific. I earned a PhD in a field that requires a lot of reading and writing and I did not have an accommodation that centered around reading. I did hire an editor for my dissertation and I did use proof readers for all of my papers and any written work.

I can fully see a bright child doing poorly on the iReady based on how it has been described. I could also see some of the remiediations they offer not being the proper course of action.

Poster you responded to. I've had a similar experience. I also had no issues with reading in elementary, including being grade levels ahead, and seemed to have more issues with writing and spelling. I'm not going to claim to be an expert on this, but I've seen professional articles on it, and the biggest common information I've seen is that for gifted and advanced kids, reading level may still be on or above grade. My personal experience was that for things like reading speed I was above average for my age/education level, but when compared with people of similar intelligence level (e.g. selective programs) I was a notably slower reader.

Like you said it's fully possible it was an issue of the test design, and it sounds like PP used an individual tutor to address it, I just wanted to share because before were started this with my child I didn't realize it could be dyslexia. I saw that one area this can show later in life is multiple choice test questions because it's easier for dyslexic people to miss a key word like not/never in a question and not have context clues like in a longer reading passage to realize they missed a word. I know I adapted to make sure I would circle or underline those type of words or reread the question or read it pointing at each word The circling and pointing techniques doesn't work on computer tests, particularly for touch screen computers, so a diagnosis to include accommodations like a paper test, may be something my child would need that I didn't because it wasn't a thing when I was in school (I think the GRE was the first test I took on a computer).

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Anonymous wrote:What's funny is my kid is in AAP in 4th. She scored in Kindergarten in phonics and phonemic awareness in 3rd grade. She had a 154 verbal COGAT. So, it's a weird test.

It did result in her landing in a fundations group with a reading specialist in 3rd that was useless. We pulled her from it (one good thing about virtual) and got get a tutor to work on a few weak areas and she's a fine reader. So, it's a weird screener and I wouldn't rely on it for AAP purposes fwiw.

Cogat verbal uses pictures. That level of mismatch could be a sign of dyslexia. Dyslexia can look different in gifted kids because they develop or are advanced enough in other skills to cover for their weakness in phonological or phonemic awareness. It could also Just have been that test or that day. Just wanted to mention because I wasn't aware of that until our child also had a significant phonics to reading level mismatch like that.

I am not certain what LDs look like for the gifted. I know that I am smart and I have LDs. I dreaded the WiSC as I got older because I always knew I was supposed to do better on it then I was, it was insanely frustrating because I could see the areas where I was confused or things slowed down in terms of processing. It sucked. Succckkkkeeeedddd. Seriously, I still dread the idea of the WiSC and I am a 50 year old adult. I took the WiSC a few different times, always years a part, because of my progress in school, moving across country, and then to set my IEP when I graduated from High School.

I don't know what dyslexia "looks like" for a gifted kid but I know that I have no memories of struggling with reading, I also know that I read a lot in context at this point. Reading to my son has been challenging because I do need to read every word and I can struggle reading Percy Jackson because I am moving words from one line to the next or moving letters around. It is kind of crazy. I know I was always seen as being advanced in my comprehension but my spelling, grammar, and processing for reading was horrific. I earned a PhD in a field that requires a lot of reading and writing and I did not have an accommodation that centered around reading. I did hire an editor for my dissertation and I did use proof readers for all of my papers and any written work.

I can fully see a bright child doing poorly on the iReady based on how it has been described. I could also see some of the remiediations they offer not being the proper course of action.