Anonymous
09/09/2019 10:30
Subject: US News 2020 rankings
Anonymous wrote:What happened to U Chicago? It is the only one that dropped out of the 3rd place tie of last year.
I don't think it matters -- unless your kid is obsessed with the UChicago 'life of the mind' vibe, nobody really thinks it is or ever was a true peer of HYPS. It's the rung below with the other Ivies and MIT.
Anonymous
09/09/2019 10:30
Subject: US News 2020 rankings
Anonymous
09/09/2019 10:26
Subject: Re:US News 2020 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is Washington University in St. Louis?
The best private school in the midwest other than Northwestern, and has been for generations.
Lol.
UChicago
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Vanderbilt
Wash U
Anonymous
09/09/2019 10:24
Subject: Re:US News 2020 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Vermont and Miami of Ohio are dismally ranked Public Ivies.
UT-Austin and UW-Madison seem really undervalued. William and Mary is just an odd fit. Never thought I’d see the day Wake Forest overtook UVA. No serious person thinks Wake Forest is a better school than UVA. George Mason is still up and coming very very slowly.
Only naive and unsophisticated public school families would say such a thing. Bless your heart for lacking the capacity and life experience to comprehend the stark differences between public and private k-12 and higher ed.
Anonymous
09/09/2019 10:04
Subject: Re:US News 2020 rankings
Anonymous wrote:What is Washington University in St. Louis?
The best private school in the midwest other than Northwestern, and has been for generations.
Anonymous
09/09/2019 10:03
Subject: Re:US News 2020 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Vermont and Miami of Ohio are dismally ranked Public Ivies.
UT-Austin and UW-Madison seem really undervalued. William and Mary is just an odd fit. Never thought I’d see the day Wake Forest overtook UVA. No serious person thinks Wake Forest is a better school than UVA. George Mason is still up and coming very very slowly.
UW-Madison suffered at the hands of GOP Gov. Walker, but now with a dem Gov., things should get back on track.
Things didn’t actually get off track.
Anonymous
09/09/2019 10:02
Subject: Re:US News 2020 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Crickets. Where are the UVA boosters? Congrats to Michigan pushing UVA out.
UVA and W&M really dropped. Big change in just one year.
UVA’s is not what one hopes for, but no big deal. W&M’s, however, is a BIG problem.
W&M is always a "weird" school for rankings because it's grouped with national universities because it is public and has a handful of grad programs, but its aims are more like a SLAC with its focus on undergraduate teaching/research. But as a public institution it doesn't have the flexibility/resources of equivalent private SLACs (e.g., it has to take 2/3 in-state, it can't raise tuition without state approval, it can't make financial changes/adaptations without state approval). Whenever the formulas of rankings change, W&M is a bit more susceptible due to its "weirdness." I think dropping selectivity as a metric, and lessening the relative importance of SAT scores in overall formula is what hurt W&M's ranking here.
The Pell grant stuff too.
Anonymous
09/09/2019 10:02
Subject: Re:US News 2020 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Vermont and Miami of Ohio are dismally ranked Public Ivies.
UT-Austin and UW-Madison seem really undervalued. William and Mary is just an odd fit. Never thought I’d see the day Wake Forest overtook UVA. No serious person thinks Wake Forest is a better school than UVA. George Mason is still up and coming very very slowly.
UW-Madison suffered at the hands of GOP Gov. Walker, but now with a dem Gov., things should get back on track.
Anonymous
09/09/2019 09:52
Subject: Re:US News 2020 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Crickets. Where are the UVA boosters? Congrats to Michigan pushing UVA out.
UVA and W&M really dropped. Big change in just one year.
UVA’s is not what one hopes for, but no big deal. W&M’s, however, is a BIG problem.
W&M is always a "weird" school for rankings because it's grouped with national universities because it is public and has a handful of grad programs, but its aims are more like a SLAC with its focus on undergraduate teaching/research. But as a public institution it doesn't have the flexibility/resources of equivalent private SLACs (e.g., it has to take 2/3 in-state, it can't raise tuition without state approval, it can't make financial changes/adaptations without state approval). Whenever the formulas of rankings change, W&M is a bit more susceptible due to its "weirdness." I think dropping selectivity as a metric, and lessening the relative importance of SAT scores in overall formula is what hurt W&M's ranking here.
Anonymous
09/09/2019 09:27
Subject: Re:US News 2020 rankings
Anonymous wrote:These rankings won't affect UVA applications...
Of course not. It’s more popular than ever. Applications will soon cross the 70,000 threshold.
Anonymous
09/09/2019 09:26
Subject: Re:US News 2020 rankings
UVA does terribly on the new "social mobility" score -- it's ranked 328 of 380. This doesn't help. Not that Michigan did much better.
Interestingly, dead last at #380 is Wash U. Not surprised; it's the back up school for Big 3 Ivy League rejects.
Interestingly, dead last at #380 is Wash U. Not surprised; it's the back up school for Big 3 Ivy League rejects.
Anonymous
09/09/2019 09:19
Subject: Re:US News 2020 rankings
These rankings won't affect UVA applications...
Anonymous
09/09/2019 08:47
Subject: Re:US News 2020 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Crickets. Where are the UVA boosters? Congrats to Michigan pushing UVA out.
Sorry your kid didn’t get in.
Didn’t apply. Not a VA resident. He got into one of the top 10 though.
Why the chip on the shoulder then?
NP. I think the prior poster was primarily trying to get a rise out of the poster who frequently posts some combination of "27 years, 1, 2, or 3. Always ahead of Michigan. USNWR is Gold standard. No other ranking matters". As another poster remarked on a different thread, this has been done "ad nauseam". Go ahead and search the forum for "27" (and probably "26" last year).
UVA is a great school, but that poster's obsession with USNWR ranking as some kind of definitive measure without regard to major/fit was grating.
--Not a UofM grad
Anonymous
09/09/2019 08:33
Subject: US News 2020 rankings
Lists are so stupid but I root for my school. Can’t help myself.
Anonymous
09/09/2019 08:12
Subject: Re:US News 2020 rankings
Anonymous wrote:Moving up a few spots at the higher levels is a bigger deal than at the lower levels. It's just harder to do that. Look at ND, which went from 18 to 15. Wonder what propelled them?
Notre Dame was ranked 15 a few years ago. Shouldn't be too surprising.